Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Progking185:
Yeah that sounds about right. I assumed the average shoe height was 1", but tbh it seems like more and more people are wearing thicker footwear these days. I think I have at least a 0.25" footwear advantage over most guys, maybe between 0.25" and 0.5". I'm 6'7.75 in shoes at my low, so maybe I give off a weak 6'7 impression.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm:
Ohh I'm just talking about the guys at my university. I'd estimate maybe a 5'10.25 average for guys here and a 5'5 average for girls. For the general population it's definitely nowhere near that high. For young guys in general (not just at my university), it's probably more like a strong 5'9 or weak 5'10. Yeah I'm 25, so I think I still fall into the "young guy" category, lol.
I actually agree quite a bit with your categories. Especially 6'3-6'5. The low end of that range is relatively uncommon, but I still see 190 - 192cm guys somewhat frequently. 195cm - 197cm much less often. 2 meters is legitimately rare, and anything above that, especially 203+ is really rare. I may not see a 203cm+ guy the entire semester, though I usually do.
You're Italian correct? I am not super familiar with your country, but I've heard that the average height varies quite a bit depending on the region. In the US the overall average is right around 5'9, but each state can vary quite a bit from 5'8 to 5'10+ (depending on the demographics). California vs. Minnesota for example. I guess that's what happens in any super diverse country.
winkler189cm said on 8/Dec/22
So assuming I would not know anything about height loss during the day:
If I measure 10 minutes after waking up (lying in bed thinking ''Ah yea I have to measure myself'' maybe to some authorities.) IWhile my peak ''ouf of bed height'' (190.5) always dropped I might be able to measure 6'2 3/4 (so basically 190cm) after 5-10 minutes. I take my tape measure, measure myself and wow I am 190cm. I measured 190cm.
So in this case I would really believe I am 190cm even though I am 189cm.
winkler189cm said on 8/Dec/22
What is the ''morning height'' btw? Not ''out of bed'' right?
For example to catch my maximum height I literally have to sleep 8 hours, normal hydration and I have to literally measure myself right after leaving the bed. And not walking 5 minutes to get my tape measure !
I have noticed that this ''out of bed'' peak height falls apart very quickly. So I measure 6'3 only if I really pay attention to that. It's not after 5 minutes, its after seconds ! I leave the bed, the tape measure ready and go to the next wall I see to catch this maximum height.
This ''out of bed' height then drops and It goes to 6'2 3/4 very fast ! Probably even after 5 minutes.
After 30min - 1hour or so I might be already at 6'2 5/8. It even drops to 6'2 1/2 quite fast (maybe with less speed) and 6'2 1/2 is the max I would measure at doctors office (2-3 hours after waking up). I would definitely never be taller at the doctors.
No matter what I do I always drop to 6'2 1/4 in the early afternoon assuming I wake up at 8am. (so after 5 hours). I might be at 6'2 3/8 at noon, it depends. I am such a 188.5 - 189 guy :D
Measuring 6'2 3/8 or probably even 6'2 1/2 in the afternoon/evening would only work if I have a more lazy day.
rlheight5'11 said on 8/Dec/22
@Bobby
Yeah lol. I don't like drawing attention to myself which is why I backtrack. I know it's just the Internet but even so.
Feeling cute? 👽
Progking185 said on 8/Dec/22
@Jdubbz I'm not exactly sure of common shoe height(1-1.25 inches?) But yeah you would look like a 6'6.5-6'7 guy to most. At least 6'6 for sure though lol
Gian 181cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
Would the average of 5'10 be for young people? I imagine that you are also young and under 30 years old.
I would expect 5'9 for the general population.
This is where I live, I think youngsters are about 5'9 strong, based on the university campus/parties I go to, 5'11 - 6'1 is a range I see every week with no issues, 6 '2-6'3 is starting to get more unusual and 6'3-6'5 very unusual (mostly 6'5), 6'6-6'7 is definitely rare.
But it's my opinion, I'm probably committing a confirmation bias 😅
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Canson:
That's a very good point about the half inch claim being used for different reasons now than it was back in the day. I think another reason why people use it is to make a round up/inflation sound more legitimate than it really is. Going back to your example, if a guy says he's 5'11.5, people will probably think he's honest. After all, the guy is "humble" enough to not claim 6'0 right? If he claims the half inch then surely he must have measured it! Lol.
As you said, in reality he may be sub 5'11. An actual 5'11.5 guy would be AT LEAST 181cm in the evening and would probably claim 6'0 at that point. Of course like you mentioned, claiming a half inch when you're way taller than 6'0 will get you some questions. Either "why not round up", or "why bother", which is honestly a fair point for guys like us.
After a certain height, being super specific about a claim IRL is kinda weird. Like a humblebrag of sorts. It makes more sense and is probably viewed as more acceptable for short and average guys than for very tall guys.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Alex 6'0:
Ya pretty much. Typically I see someone taller once every ~ 3 weeks, but it has been a while now. I haven't seen anyone taller than me since October, and I'm studying at a large university on the East Coast. There are lots of 6'3-4 guys who seem similar to my height from a distance but I can tell are noticeably shorter when I get closer.
I occasionally see 6'4-5 guys and once in a while 6'5-6, but much less frequently than 6'3-4. 6'0-2 is pretty common. Average height for a guy here is probably a strong 5'10 if I had to guess.
To be fair though, I do wear thick sneakers + orthotics for arch support (gives 1.5" total), so I think I'm more similar to a barefoot 6'7 or 6'6.75 guy than a 6'6 or 6'6.25 guy when in public. That might make a difference.
If I were an inch taller, I could probably go 2-3 months without seeing someone taller. Legit 6'7-8 and up gets really rare.
Alex 6'0 said on 8/Dec/22
Jdubzz, someone like you solid 6'6 range guy you must go weeks without seeing someone taller? As 6'4-6'5 is very tall the % drops pretty noticeably 6'6-6'7 range
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Rockaway:
Lol yeah, that's true. That's actually why I love being my height. I can't imagine NOT standing out in a crowd or blending in with other people. That would be super weird for me. I view my height as just another trait that makes me unique. Wouldn't trade it for anything, even if the "regular" tall heights are more convenient.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 8/Dec/22
@Antoine
You are only 180cms for a small part of the day. I think claiming 179cm or 5'10.5 is fair.
Antoine said on 8/Dec/22
Hello, I am 180.5cm out of bed and I am few mms under 179cm in the night. Do you think I can claim about 180cm? Is it fair?
Canson said on 7/Dec/22
@Jdubbz: my issue with the half is that it’s not used properly in the states these days whereas years back it was. Years back, people used it to distinguish or maybe to make themselves sound more impressive. Now a days it’s usually an excuse to round. “I’m 5’11 1/2” when the person may be 5’10 3/4” or barely hitting 5’11 later in the day. I know Older individuals and older relatives that claimed the half still listed themselves at the lower number on paper on occasion instead of the higher one (rounding up). Now a days, if you tell someone you’re 6’6 1/2 or I say I’m 6’4 1/2”, you’ll get 6’6 from a small percentage, 6’7” from a much much larger percentage, and get asked why you don’t claim 6’7 from another somewhat large percentage or why you bother claiming the half from a smaller percentage. The older generation where the half worked is dying out. Group that with the practice of doctors and nurses measuring people in shoes and people getting physicals and blood work done at the same time in some cases where fasting is encouraged, you may get someone who is your size claiming 6’8 with their shoes on and the other larger proportion 6’7”. Don’t forget that athletes get listed in shoes almost exclusively now as opposed to many years ago it was maybe a roundup or hit or miss.
It’s just all screwed up now. But I still claim 6’4” and just prepare for the argument if necessary. Funny thing is about two weeks ago, I was approached by someone probably in his 60s or even 70s who made a joke (very cordial and harmless) about height and he asked me how tall I was and I said 6’4”. His response “no you have to be at least 6’6, I’m 6’0”. I looked at him and said “no offense but you’re about 5’10” which is what he was. A buddy of ours is 6’0” and is noticeably taller than this guy. If anything, if I stand next to him, I may look closer to 6’5 if I have a footwear advantage but he’s had his Jordan’s on and I may look 6’4 1/2” when I have the orthotics in. Back to this guy, I told him 6’4 1/4” to the T and that I’m in a Timberland that adds at least 1.5” because I wear an orthotic. He then told me that he was a baseball player years back and that he was listed 6’0” when he played baseball 40 some years ago. I told him that he’s clearly not that now and that I was listed 6’6 in college when I played basketball but I know that I’m not. Funniest part was when my 6’6” buddy walked in and he asked him how tall he was and he said 6’6”. He said “maybe I’m not 6’0” then”.
Progking185 said on 7/Dec/22
@Qm6'1.5 yeah I'm more like 184 night as I wake up 186 range, though I just go with afternoon at around 185. On active days I find sometimes in the afternoon I've lost about 2 cm and I'm down to 184/6'0.5. But claiming the middle of your range is ok.
Peter 180cm said on 7/Dec/22
@ QM6'1.5QM Yeah that is the most accurate way to see at your height. In that case you could say im really 179.5cm but prefer 180 than 179 because who wouldn't round up with my measurements? xD
Emil said on 7/Dec/22
@Jibin
There's must be a massive slope in your floor/wall, if facing the wall gives you 3 cm more.
There shouldn't be any difference except a couple mm, since it's easier to measure your own height facing the wall
Bobby said on 7/Dec/22
@rlheight5'11
Considering that you broadcasted it here, I think everyone who visited the forum will know.
In other news, I'm feeling cute, so I might play some games later, I dunno.
Bobby said on 7/Dec/22
@Peter 180cm
My peak out-of-bed height is 179.1 cm. I have verified this on two occasions where I was lucky to get my height recorded as fast as possible. I claim 178 cm as my height. I think that's being very honest and reasonable, given I am 180-181 cm in shoes during the day.
rlheight5'11 said on 7/Dec/22
I used to watch England games during big football tournaments. I used to watch England friendlys years ago.
rlheight5'11 said on 7/Dec/22
@AB-177CM
Does it have anything to do with you being kurdish? Not that there's anything wrong that, sorry for the personal question. And yeah maybe the region isn't safe for football fans etc.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 7/Dec/22
Peter 180cm said on 6/Dec/22
I've always claim my evening height, because never wanted to be taller.
We all know that you has ~2cms in the morning, but my rule is a -2cm (morning)= your height/claim (evening).
In my case, it's legit 187cms tall!
AK World said on 6/Dec/22
Hello @Rob,
What is the average head length for a 6'4" guy?

Editor Rob
Closer to 10 inches at that range.
Rockaway said on 6/Dec/22
Tbh the more I think about it, as a solid 6’ at a low, I don’t think I’d ever want to be taller than 6’3”. Maybe even 6’2”. Your entire life would change… can’t really blend in anywhere. I think 6’2” is obviously solid tall but still can blend in a little.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 6/Dec/22
@Public Enemy:
Fair enough, but I'd have have to disagree. Within the ideal range, I think taller is better for a guy.
Crypto139 said on 6/Dec/22
Just measured my height today for the first time in ages. Woke up a little after 10AM, but just spent the sitting down on a bed hunched over my computer while getting up and walking around a tiny bit but nothing too crazy. At 3PM I measured in at 172.3cm. Not quite a full 5'8" even just 4 hours out of bed. Although, I noticed a lot of people irl that are my height like to claim 5 foot 9, although some will say 5 foot 8.
7272 said on 6/Dec/22
@MD
Wonho looks like a 5’8 guy.
Public Enemy said on 6/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
I don’t really see any palpable difference between a 6’0 and 6’2 guy with equal proportions from a physical desirability perspective. Other differentiating factors will come into play such as personality, looks etc
Gian 181cm said on 6/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
Exact,and strength and size are patterns found in many species when studying alphas and hierarchy. I would say that intelligence is an important trait as well.
Jibin said on 6/Dec/22
Rob I am 187 when I am facing the wall and I am 184 when my back against the wall..what height should I claim?

Editor Rob
I'd find another wall and redo the measurement, as 3cm seems too big a difference.
Maybe with your back against the wall you're unable to stand as tall, or maybe the can/object is slipping when measuring?
rlheight5'11 said on 6/Dec/22
I like this one plus people know me by this name better. Some prob didn't know I changed it.
Hght181 said on 6/Dec/22
Might change my username back to rlheight. Idk, thinking about it.
Hght181 said on 6/Dec/22
@Rob
That's ok, I was just wondering 👍
Sandy Cowell said on 6/Dec/22
@ Hght181 - I see my usual two, who never stray far from the house. I open the door and they descend upon me!
🦊😂🦊
Yes, it’s freezing now, which means that the cats conglomerate in the warmest rooms, and they all try to sit on my lap. Who knows - maybe we are in for a white Christmas this year…..? ☃️❄️🎄😉
Peter 180cm said on 6/Dec/22
Honestly if you claim a height you can measure half an hour after waking up(out of bed ofcourse)you're not really exaggerating. You will be roughly 1-1.5cm shorter for the majority of the day and we all know 1cm can easily be covered with different shoes and posture.
Jdubbz said on 6/Dec/22
Gian 181cm:
Yes I agree. Speaking literally, the alpha males of a wolf pack are almost always the biggest. As you said, the concept of alpha and beta males doesn't really apply to humans, but logically an "alpha male" human would be physically much larger than average. Both in height and overall frame. Of course there are other factors to consider, as you mentioned. 6'3+ fits the bill nicely, assuming proportionate frame, muscle mass, etc.
Of course, that's much different than the ideal male height. 6'0-1 fits into that category for sure, though I'm not sure if it's the most ideal male height. In my experience, 6'2-3 was just as comfortable and didn't really have any more downsides. It's also a noticeably more imposing height.
Caleb 178.7cm said on 5/Dec/22
Click Here How tall would you guys say this lady is by watching her Tiktok videos??🤔

Editor Rob
Saw a clip of her under the door and she was doing the Flamingo on one foot...
But in a clip in which she held a tape beside her, 5ft 8 appeared near end of her chin, so maybe she is in 6ft 5-6 zone if measured properly.
Actually in the sideways vans clip beside tape, I do think she might be actually quite close to her claim!
MD said on 5/Dec/22
How tall is Korean singer Wonho, really?
Public Enemy said on 5/Dec/22
I agree with Alex on this one. A legit 6’0-6’1 at a low with decent proportions is desirable and tall.
Progking185 said on 5/Dec/22
@Rick84 yeah 6'2.5-6'3 is a great tall height but nowhere near giant. I think it's a big but still regular tall height. Around over 6'4 is where your getting more rare in public, though 6'4 generally is very tall
Hght181 said on 5/Dec/22
@Sandy Cowell
chilly weather recently, where I am 🌧️
feels chilly enough to snow🦊 or something. Seen any foxes coming out to play?
c-mo 176cm said on 5/Dec/22
height doesnt make you alpha . lmao
Jdubbz said on 5/Dec/22
@Canson:
Yeah, I guess it depends on the type of shoes you wear. My shoes + orthotics give me 1.5", so even at an extreme low, my shoe height would be way taller than my barefoot out of bed height. Even at my low I'm 6'7.75 in those shoes. Hell, I'm doorframe height for a good chunk of the day. I could easily get away with a 6'7 claim in those shoes, but why bother? Deep down I'd know it's a lie.
I think our height loss pattern may be identical at this point. These days I only lose 3/4", so I wake up at 6'7 and drop to 6'6.25 at my low. I can't remember the last time I hit 6'6 flat, so it's safe to say that's my extreme low. As far as claiming 6'4 rather than 6'4.5, I agree completely and do the same thing at my height. On average we're closer to 6'6 and 6'4 than 6'7 and 6'5 throughout the day while a half inch claim would imply we're directly between those two heights. Things would be different in a country that uses the metric system (where 194cm and 199cm make much more sense than 193cm and 198cm), but not in the US.
Gian 181cm said on 5/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
It could be, but I didn't see anything to indicate it wasn't and so I took it as literal speech.
If the idea is to have dominant height then I'd say 6'3+ guys would go with this rank (as long as they're not too skinny and have a withdrawn body language).
A 5'11 guy who knows how to fight or was ex-military would intimidate me much more than a normal 6'2 guy.
If the idea is to talk about desired height and seen as ideal by women then it makes sense to put 6'0-6'1 (at least for the USA), for the rest of the world I would add the range 180cm to 193cm.
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5
I forgot to add in my previous comment, but in my opinion you can imagine an "alpha person" with plenty of resources, such as money (which basically buys food, comfort and security) and social prestige.
So yes Kevin Hart in this vision would be an alpha, as would Chris Hemsworth.
Jdubbz said on 5/Dec/22
@Progking185:
Honestly man, I think a 5 hour measurement is the best possible claim. It truly reflects your average height throughout the day (considering that daily height loss is basically exponential decay, so you're closer to your low than your morning height on average). It's a nice middle ground between morning height and your low.
I used to be firmly in the "evening height is your true height" camp, but I've changed my mind on that. In your case, I think even 6'1 would be a fair claim. I personally round down my low (so technically I'm claiming an extreme low), but that's just because I'm closer to 6'6 than 6'7 for most of the day. I'm also obviously not that desperate for additional height at this point, lol.
Jdubbz said on 5/Dec/22
@c-mo 176cm:
You misunderstand...I'm not referring to 1-2 hour out of bed height in my comment, but rather peak morning height. The height you'd measure as soon as you get out of bed. No one will see you at that height (aside from a significant other). The height you're referring to is of course legitimate and not dishonest at all. That's similar to what you'd measure at the doctors.
I have no issue with anyone claiming morning height. Still, that's very different than peak out of bed height. I think claiming out of bed height is where you start getting into "overly optimistic" territory. Of course, many people who aren't height aware might still be indirectly claiming peak out of bed height. For example, if they're measured at 6'3.5 at a 9:30 am doctor's appointment then round up to 6'4. I actually did that exact thing many years ago before learning about height loss. Very cringe, lol.
Jdubbz said on 5/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm:
I don't think he meant it literally, but more so as a way to describe the most dominant male height. I agree that such a thing doesn't really exist, but even if it did, it wouldn't be 6'0/6'1. I think that's too close to average to be the most "alpha" height.
Rick84q said on 5/Dec/22
@Daniel Leee 173cm i dont understand why are you saying 6'2.5 and 6'3 are put of the very good height range? 6'3 is a desire height by almost all men is not like is a giant , is just tall height and attractive one.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 5/Dec/22
Alpha Male is much more to do with money/status than being tall.
AB-177CM said on 5/Dec/22
@Hght181
I meant, why do you want to be sure? Btw, Don't take that the wrong way.
There are some controversies about this Qatar world Cup but I don't care. I have only seen the first few matches, and haven't watched a match ever since.
-
My response to your message, Hght181.
I am not supportive of the World Cup taking place in Qatar for personal reasons. I don’t wish to get into my feelings and thoughts since others have mixed opinions too. But I haven’t really watched any match too, and I am aware of the controversies, and I know how many feel, since Qatar fund terrorism and corruption. Many terrorist leaders are hiding in Qatar, and Qatar fund many globally terrorist organisations.
That’s just the basic controversies.
Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 5/Dec/22
6'0-6'1 guys often compare their height to 6'2 guys
Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 5/Dec/22
@Alex 6'0
i don't think so. The Alpha Male height is 6'2, you still look very good and taller than 6'0-6'1 guys.
At 6'2.5"6'3" you are out of the "very good height" range
Canson said on 4/Dec/22
Jdubbz said on 3/Dec/22
@winkler189cm:
It depends how you look at it. Yes morning height is our maximum possible height, but only because we mitigate the effects of gravity on our spine for ~8 hours. You start losing height extremely quickly as soon as you get up, so it's not something you can maintain. It's not a flat out lie I guess, but it's a bit dishonest since basically no one will see you at that height.
I personally prefer low/evening height, but I think a few hours out of bed is fine too. Straight out of bed morning height is similar to a shoe claim to me (though perhaps not quite as bad).
@Jdubbz: i agree with your logic 100%. But in my case, I think claiming the out of bed height for most is the same as claiming a shoe height. It’s more honest because you can measure it but If say you dipped to 6’6 flat instead of 6’6.25 and said you were 6’7 flat it’s the same imho. I also feel that if we are talking about height, it’s measured standing up. It’s vertical. The height out of bed is a product of having laid down for several hours whereas the afternoon/evening is a product of having been up on your feet for several hours and represents more your true height. While I don’t believe in the morning height (first thing) I also don’t believe as much in the extreme low although that is at least closer to your normal walking height than the out of bed is. But you and I are probably in the same boat. Your extreme low is probably the same as mine 2” taller as you’re probably a solid 6’6” whereas I’m 6’4” flat at my extreme low. But I do round down to 6’4” more often than not as opposed to a 6’4 1/2” claim since I’m smack dab in the middle at 6’4 1/4”.
Darksol64 said on 4/Dec/22
@ Jdubbz
I have a leg-length discrepancy of near 1.25 inches which I asked Rob about; asked him if I looked like I had a frame closer to a 6'1 guy or 6'2 guy. He said I looked 6'2-6'3 in that picture and also said the camera being low to the ground made me look a little taller with a smaller head. I didn't do that on purpose, It's just a decent picture I had on hand.
I do seem to have pretty even proportions like Rob which likely makes me look bigger. Actually my legs are probably slightly short for my height; I look best when I wear my 2 inch running shoes to compensate. I have 1 inch yard-work shoes in the pic, not barefoot.
I don't typically get height comments in person or many guesses, though I don't get out too much. As Leighton stated I did get a 6'6 guess one time, but let's just say that guy's a huge jokester and not too bright, I don't count it as a legitimate guess. I told him if he saw a actual 6'6 guy next to me he would be amazed.
Hght181 said on 4/Dec/22
I measure 180.8 at night which puts me in the 180-1 range. I'm good at that height. I wouldn't desire to be taller nor shorter. Women are short, I tend to look at height from a dating pov.
Hght181 said on 4/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
My comments sometimes do not appear.
Usually I see others comments before mine.. We're on good terms, I think? 👍

Editor Rob
There's no issue, though the other day 24 hour period of comments got lost.
Jdubbz said on 4/Dec/22
@Canson:
Exactly. Get out of bed, take a shower, eat some breakfast, and drive to work. Your morning height is pretty much gone lol. Another thing about out of bed morning height is that the only other person who will see you at that height is also at his/her peak height.
You won't seem any taller from his/her perspective. If that person isn't height aware, they're probably going by the height they measured at the doctor's (which is most likely late morning/early afternoon).
Progking185 said on 4/Dec/22
@Jdubbz yeah I measure usually about 5 hours out of bed. I go with about 185/6'0 75 as I measure that most afternoons, otherwise more like 6'0.5 on active days. Any height you measure is ok to claim but most people would see you at the height around 3-6 hours I think
Jdubbz said on 4/Dec/22
@Alex 6'0:
Hmm...while 6'0-1 is a desirable height for men, I wouldn't call it the "alpha male height". I don't think there is such a thing as alpha male height (has more to do with overall appearance/proportions), but if there were, it would be taller than that. More like 6'2-4, which seems to be an equally desirable height range that is also more imposing than 6'0-1. Just my opinion of course.
Gian 181cm said on 4/Dec/22
Alpha and beta are not scientifically valid when applied to human beings, it is possible to draw some parallels, so I don't see the sense in 'alpha male height'.
A parallel that can be drawn in my opinion is that anyone, male or female, who has abundant access to resources (money, food, safety, comfort) can fit as an "alpha", regardless of height, appearance and gender. This is a private opinion, i.e. not supported by evidence or anything like that.
Of course, when we observe them in nature, alphas tend to be bigger, more aggressive and with greater access to resources than other animals of the same species, but when we talk about humans it is more complex.
c-mo 176cm said on 4/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
i disagree . people DO see you at your morning height . just not first thing height . lets say have school or uni or work at 9 . lets say you wake up at 7:30 . take your shower , eat something and prepare a sandwhich and water for your break , brush your teeth , put on clothes and leave 8:20 your house and are 8:40 already in the city to wait for the bus and are among people etc. . you are basically full inside of everyday dynamics already 1-2 hours out of bed
in my case i would be around 177cm at that time and i dont think it would be a lie to claim 177cm therefore . (my first thing out of bed height is about 178.3cm or so but i lose that quickly)
i claim 177cm often . especially to chicks :D lol . or 176-177 (when dudes ask mostly)
i think claiming morning height is not dishonest at all tbh
but here on CH i have 176cm in my nick and when someone asks me here on CH i will say 176
Canson said on 4/Dec/22
@Winkler: I think your claim of 189 is adequate and very fair given your stats. The full body thing is really debatable because everyone shrinks.
Gian 181cm said on 4/Dec/22
@Zaratustraelsabio
It depends, for some positions it matters, Brazil with 180.7 beat Serbia who had 187cm, but never won in crosses and corners, even Switzerland had difficulties with Serbia in this regard.
I still think the height is inflated, this is based on TransferMarket, Joao Felix for example is listed as 5'11 1/4 but he is 5'10.5-75:
Click Here.
,Lewandowski listed as 1.85m, CR7 at 1.87m, Alisson Becker 1.93m, and others.
Emil said on 4/Dec/22
@Zaratustraelsabio
Soccer players/footballers are surprisingly tall wow
Leighton Tang said on 3/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
I remember Darksol was guessed at 6’6 once, so yeah probably.
Alex 6'0 said on 3/Dec/22
More guys would take 6'6 over 5'3 id think too. But majority guys would take 6'0-6'1 over 6'6. 6'0-6'1 seems the alpha male height.
Jdubbz said on 3/Dec/22
@winkler189cm:
It depends how you look at it. Yes morning height is our maximum possible height, but only because we mitigate the effects of gravity on our spine for ~8 hours. You start losing height extremely quickly as soon as you get up, so it's not something you can maintain. It's not a flat out lie I guess, but it's a bit dishonest since basically no one will see you at that height.
I personally prefer low/evening height, but I think a few hours out of bed is fine too. Straight out of bed morning height is similar to a shoe claim to me (though perhaps not quite as bad).
Black Noir said on 3/Dec/22
Hey rob I’ve gotten permission to post on behalf of my family but the man on the right as a 1.2 advantage how many cm is between these two men? No one is slouching I don’t believe
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Editor Rob
If a good cm advantage, I can't see much more than 3cm between them...but with any comparison, the more photos you see of two people together, the clearer the difference can become.
Peter 180cm said on 3/Dec/22
@Nb We have similar measurements and 180 is what i usually claim as well. Besides,if you lie your body and relax for some time,you'll easily recover about 0.5cm so you will actually be a legit 180cm. Decent height in real life,so close to tall and yet close to average as well.
Peter 180cm said on 3/Dec/22
@winkler189cm You are the height you claim for the majority of the day so why round up? It's already pretty tall lol and sounds cooler than 190 or 191 actually.
Zaratustraelsabio said on 3/Dec/22
Does height matter in football?
The tallest teams qualified to second phase.
Serbia 187,0 Europe: out
Denmark 185,5 Europe: out
France 185,4 Europe: in
Belgium 185,2 Europe: out
Germany 185,2 Europe: out
Croatia 184,5 Europe: in
Morocco 184,4 Africa: in
Senegal 184,4 Africa: in
Poland 184,3 Europe: in
Tunisia 184,2 Africa: out
Netherlands 184,1 Europe: in
Switzerland 184,1 Europe: in
IR Iran 184,0 Asia: out
England 183,0 Europe: in
Canada 182,9 Concacaf: out
Portugal 182,7 Europe: in
9/16... So the height is not very important in football
Emil said on 3/Dec/22
@Nb
I'm sure 180 cm is your midday height so I'd just claim that if I were you
New-One said on 3/Dec/22
Frankly speaking, I can see the height of the Undertaker and Kane the being the same, but I am a bit insecure about it.
Gian 181cm said on 3/Dec/22
@Darksol64
I would say a person starts to look short after 2.5-3 inches of difference so I would guess you would look tall around a 5'11 guy, maybe not so much around 5'11.75 - 6 '0 guys (but still tall).
Of course, guys like Canson and Jdubbz always stand out even with tall guys like you around, so definitely 5'11 guys would look too short (and that goes for 6'0 guys too).
But other than that, I agree with you, I'm 5'11 strong, about 6'0 1/4 in Vans sneakers during lunch and late morning, I think that would put me in the solidly above average range.
winkler189cm said on 3/Dec/22
Isn't the size correct in the morning too? Of course you can see your maximum body length if you measure yourself almost directly from the bed. But let's say you measure yourself within the first 20 minutes of the day. All body sizes in the morning show how long your body is.
Here at Celebheights we're talking about heights that you have a few hours after waking up.
So eg I'm 6'3 straight out of bed. At the beginning you lose the most and after 30-45min I'm already at about 6'2 5/8 (189.5). After 2 hours (without exercise!) at about 6'2.5 (189.2). After 3-4 hours often at 6'2 3/8 and towards 6'2 1/4 sometime in the afternoon.
If I've been out all day (train, work, shopping, sitting) I can still be at 6'2 1/8 late at night. My "extreme low" in the evening after the fitness center is around 6'2.
I've been saying ''I'm 1.89'' all my life.
But theoretically, our bodies are the size of ''straight out of bed'', right? So it wouldn't be a lie.
Jdubbz said on 3/Dec/22
@Darksol64:
You look quite tall in that picture, taller than 6'1.75 at least. It may have to do with the angle of the photo, but you also appear to have favorable proportions for looking taller. If I saw that picture without knowing your height, I would have assumed you were 6'3-4 rather than 6'1.75. Do people usually guess you taller than you actually are?
jokey said on 2/Dec/22
@Rob what's the average head's size of a 5'11 man?

Editor Rob
Not far off 9.5 inches
Harold Green said on 2/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
It is good that you appreciate your height, I do believe 6’6 is a good height and I wouldn’t be arguing if I was to be 6’6. I am still currently 6’1 1/8 in the evening and I do like my height better because I don’t feel tall nor short(quite tall but not something where I would stand out amongst the crowd) but 6’6 would be an ideal height if I want to stand out amongst most of the group. I do agree that 6’6 is not a giant but rather be a tall height since when comparing myself to a 6’6 person, the top of my head is around their eye level so doesn’t really feel like I am being dwarfed by a lot. I would probably consider at least 6’11 to be almost giant height and 7’0 to be at the right level of a giant. I do have a friend who is 7’0 1/4(214cm) and he definitely dwarf me by a lot as I am below his chin and a bit above his shoulders. I did ask my 7 feet friend if he liked his height and he said he would be fine in the outside but in buildings or in most places, he is too tall to fit in many things and he does feel very uncomfortable. He doesn’t mind his height as there are advantages he can do compared to many people shorter than him but he does consider 6’5 to be a pretty ideal height for him personally since compared to a 6’7 person. 6’5 doesn’t have a lot of big disadvantages like having to duck through the door as the the normal height of the door is usually 6’8 and not too much discomfort with bed and can reach through most things as well. But yeah I would say appreciate your height and I do believe every height is good for many things and they each have their own special traits that you can do in this world.
Darksol64 said on 2/Dec/22
@ Billy
I second that. 5'11 range is when you really start to look noticeably bigger than average. A great height. Won't look short around 6' guys or even 6'1.75 guys like me. All in all you'll stand your ground except around very tall guys like Canson and Jdubbz.
Also what's cool about 5'11 is you could cheat an inch with your shoes to appear in public as a 6'0 barefoot guy, and even if the shoes come off most people will think you're 6'0 with all the 5'10 and even 5'9 guys claiming it. Much better than all these 5'9 guys I see trying to fake 6'0 with huge platforms. Sorry guys it just ain't feasible or a good idea.
I would trade my 6'1.75 for flat 5'11 if it came with really nice broad shoulders for the girls.
Bobby said on 2/Dec/22
@Rob Paul
I never understood why small children suck their thumbs. I never did from what I recall, but I weaned off the pacifier fairly early. I don't think I took to it as much as other children may have.
Fascinating.

Editor Rob
The Nipper has never had a dummy/pacifier, but does suck her thumb instead...a comforting/soothing feeling.
adrianposter said on 2/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
I think there are more 5’7 men than 5’7 women, but 5’6 is when the women beat out the men.
Joe Ponce said on 2/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
Can you add Chandra Bahadur Dangi to the website? He was the shortest man ever with a height of 54.6 cm (1 ft 9½ in)
Nb said on 2/Dec/22
Hey Rob if you measured 179.4cm at a low, would it be fair to claim 180cm? How would you feel that height is like in real life? Thanks

Editor Rob
180cm is pretty much what you would get measured at for a physical during the day, so I'd go with it.
dreus23 said on 2/Dec/22
@Billythetreesurgeon
I actually think you could claim the full 6ft, or atleast close to it! No one is gonna think you're inflating your height. Also, in my world, you'd definitely fit closer to the "tall" category than just something between short and tall
I actually typically don't fall to 5'7, which I guess could be rare for someone my height range. I do fall close to it after a tough day, intense excecise, and/or bad sleep, but generally I land right around the 170.5-171 cm area which is 5'7.25. Thanks for saying that it's a nice height! I wouldn't exactly complain if I got another growth spurt, like another two inches or so. I wouldn't want to be over 6ft, but I'd love to be over 5'8. But all in all I'm pretty happy with my height, especially as I easily could've finished up at like 5'5-5'6 instead. Just wait and see I guess
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 2/Dec/22
C-mo @ I no what your saying man, 180 is a lovely height, only problem is though is if most/a lot of your friends are over 6ft you may feel a little short but nothing major
Canson said on 2/Dec/22
@Jdubbz: Likewise! And I agree with everything you said
Gian 181cm said on 2/Dec/22
@hght181
Agree, it's a comfortable height. I wouldn't mind going anywhere in the 5'11 - 6'4 range to be honest, with a preference for 6'3. But 5'8 is the minimum I'd like to have, I don't think 5'8-5'10 is a bad range.
@c-mo 176cm
thanks for the answer bro
Heir of Darkness said on 2/Dec/22
As someone who lives in the Philippines, I must say the comments here gave me a reality check as to how it's like in the west lol. Over here, the average for males is supposedly 5'4, though I think for younger generation middle class males, it's probably around 5'5-5'6. I'd say in a large crowd of mostly middle class Filipinos, the tallest person/s that I see is/are in the 6'1 range. Occasionally, there are 6'2 guys around, but that's it. Legit 6'3+ guys are pretty rare here, and I would probably have to go to a collegiate or professional basketball tournament to reliably find guys who are that tall.
The craziest thing though is despite the reputation of Filipinos being short, basketball is the most popular sport here lol. There's a guy from here who was in the 2022 NBA draft, but he wasn't drafted. His name is Kai Sotto (Rob, you should consider adding him lol), and he's listed at 7'2 (though he's probably shorter lol). Another crazy thing is since the Philippines is a somewhat westernized country, people here glamorize being 6 foot, but that height for a Filipino is probably the equivalent of being at least a 6'4 guy in the west lol.
Hght181 said on 1/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm
181cm is a great height and is perfect for just about everything. Dating, fitting into cars etc. I wouldn't want to be taller than 6'0.
Hght181 said on 1/Dec/22
@Rob
I remember the keyboard letters on my laptop wearing away over time too.
Those small letters/micro letters are almost irreplaceable lol. And yes, all the typing you do ⌨️🦊
You could buy a plug in keyboard or something.

Editor Rob
This is my current computer setup:
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Unfortunately I don't get much work done when the Nipper comes by as I made a mistake last month of having Youtube on and the Nipper spotted it...now she demands we sit and watch Bounce Patrol songs instead of doing work 😄
Jdubbz said on 1/Dec/22
@C-mo 176cm
Very well said man. I'm genuinely not trying to offend 5'3 guys either, but thinking 5'3 is a better height for a man than 6'6 just seems ridiculous to me. As you said, every inch under average height makes a much more drastic difference than one would assume. It seems like once you cross that average "threshold", each inch isn't quite as important. Of course in countries like the US you have the 6' standard and in others you have a 180cm standard, but for the most part, being average means you're "in the clear".
My dad is about 5'6 now (5'7 prime), and he's noticeably shorter than the average American guy. Of course I tower over both him and the average American guy, but it's still a very obvious difference to me. There are more 5'6 women than there are 5'6 men (in western countries), so I totally get why that 3-4" gap between 5'6 and average height is so much bigger than it seems. Not just from a visual perspective, but also from a psychological perspective. That applies even more to 5'3.
As far as you preferring your height or heights near 6' to 6'6, that is totally understandable. While I don't think 6'6 is too much, I agree that it's not an ideal height for most people and that any very tall height has a unique set of issues.
You being strong 5'9 and me being strong 6'6 means there is almost exactly 9" between us. I'm sure you can tell by my posts that I greatly enjoy being tall, but there is no way in hell that I'd want to be 9 inches taller than I currently am. Of course 6'6 is way less extreme than 7'3, but I can understand why a height 9" taller than your own seems excessive. For someone so far from 6'6, you do a great job visualizing the benefits and drawbacks. I can't say the same about some people here.
I am definitely one of those people who would choose 6'6 over 6'0-1. Hell, I would choose it over any height under 6'5. I think it's just a question of what we're used to. In your case, I know your ideal height is 179cm or 180cm. That makes sense - being slightly above average height has many benefits, plus its not too dissimilar from your own height. If you suddenly grew to 180cm, it wouldn't require an extreme lifestyle adjustment.
The only heights that I'd possibly choose over 6'6 are 6'5 and 6'7. Well not exactly 6'7, but 200cm (6'6.75). Any height in the 195 - 201cm range would be fantastic for me. It's just what I'm used to and what I enjoy.
adrianposter said on 1/Dec/22
Hey Rob,
Does wearing shoe insoles make you drop down to your low faster?

Editor Rob
I don't see how that would have much effect...but maybe the higher angle puts some stresses on your back that you aren't used to?
Progking185 said on 1/Dec/22
@cmo176 183-185 is a good range yeah to be tall in general. I'm noticing around young guys 185 is enough to feel tall most of the time. Of course yeah there are times with more taller guys out but that happens. I'm good at 184 range/6'0.5 and feel tall enough most of the time, especially as I'm 185-186 in the morning, or maybe around that in some bigger shoes. All I know is I've measured 188-188.5 in some.
Progking185 said on 1/Dec/22
@cmo176 183-185 is a good range yeah to be tall in general. I'm noticing around young guys 185 generally is enough to feel tall tall most of the time. Of course yeah there are times with more taller guys out but that happens. I'm good at 184 range/6'0.5 and feel tall enough most of the time, especially as I'm 185-186 in the morning, or maybe around that in some bigger shoes. All I know is I've measured 188-188.5 in some.
Original said on 1/Dec/22
Between 183cm - 188cm is the most convenient man height in my opinion. 185cm or 186cm hits the peak (6'1") imo. You're tall enough to easily break out of average looking tallish at least, you can handle tall women well (5'7 to 5'9, even the 5'10s) while mantain appeal to relatively shorter women (5'2 to 5'4) as well, you have no height issue at all. You are in a adequate, dominant and attractive height around 6'1.
Peter 180cm said on 1/Dec/22
@ c-mo 176cm I'm 179.5cm at my low generally and i get what you're saying -180cm feels pretty good generally but i'd gladly choose 185 anyday because of my proportions(long arms and a freaking 10cm long neck haha I think i'm very lanky for a guy around 180).
c-mo 176cm said on 1/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm
perfect height bro . really
by the way my last comment seems to have not come through . so i will repost :
@jdubbz
i am 115 kg at 176cm :D i have too much bodyfat but also a lot of muscles . and a heavy frame . my FFMI / lean mass index is 24
you can calculate yours here : tinyurl.com/yd8atwer
Gian 181cm said on 1/Dec/22
@c-mo 176cm
What do you think about the height of 181cm?
I'm about 5'11 7/8 in the morning and 5'11 1/8 at night, sometimes 5'11 1/4, sometimes I can get 6'0 out of bed.
My average height would be a solid 5'11 3/8 or a weak 5'11 1/2.
c-mo 176cm said on 1/Dec/22
@Honest5'11
185 - 187 is a great height bro . but like i said i think perfect is around 180cm . if i could choose a height to be i would take 180cm . in my experience it is the most aesthetic height and it is also tall enough + very comfortable if not the most comfortable and versitaile height . it is the best height for proportions
only in some situations like sometimes in nightclubs or in city events etc. i feel that 183 - 185cm might be even better because of all the young guys in the western world . there are some situations where there are suddenly a lot of taller guys around . but "even" at my height of 176cm i dont feel short so 180cm is more than enough in such situations too however in such situations you will feel just average at 180cm so if you want to feel above average around 185cm might be better but i noticed that a decent amount of men around 185cm already have some "negative" features like a too long face , looking / seeming clumsy or uncoordinated , lanky etc. . no offense to anybody
if you ask yourself now "what if 185cm without these things + good proportions vs 180cm ? " i would still take 180cm because in my opinion even though 185cm is a great height it is vertically "too long" to be perfect . i have trouble to explain what i mean by that ...i talked about it before . however regarding this "too long" thing 185cm is on the edge . above 185cm IMO is definitely not perfect (still good though) . i might take 182-183cm above all ...but i just like 180cm the most tbh
QM6'1.5"QM said on 30/Nov/22
Jdubbz said 28/Nov/22
OK. Sounds like a prototype of a big American football player, to be honest :)
I weigh good at 70kg and obsessed with development of muscles system, lol. With dumbbells of course. I don't really care about gaining weight and it's not that easy)
Emil said on 29/Nov/22
@QM6'1.5"QM
187 cm is even above average in the Dinaric Alps. Solid tall height anywhere in the world.
Ideal height for a man imo
Emil said on 28/Nov/22
@Comentarista
1.52-1.55 probably
Jdubbz said on 28/Nov/22
Canson said on 27/Nov/22
Rockaway said on 26/Nov/22
6’6” barefoot is most certainly giant. Most people can probably count on two hands how many people they’ve seen this height or taller in their life.
That’s not true. I’ve seen far more people in person that are over 6’6 than just 5-10
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@Canson:
It's good to see you again Canson! I agree completely. I don't see guys taller than me every day (more like once every few weeks), but they exist and there are a decent number of them out there. 6'9 or 6'10 is a different story, as you can go a full year without seeing anyone taller. 6'7 or 6'8, maybe you can go several months.
Each inch above 6'3 or 6'4 gets exponentially rarer, and 6'6 isn't *that* rare to begin with. I honestly can't fathom how people think 6'6 is a giant. I look in the mirror, and I certainly don't see a giant, lol. Very tall/extremely tall and giant are two different things.
Jdubbz said on 28/Nov/22
QM6'1.5"QM said on 27/Nov/22
Jdubbz said on 27/Nov/22
@Vy:
Holy Christ, are you 108 kgs ?!)
Are you fit and athletic or something else ?..
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@QM6'1.5"QM:
I have a broad frame and a decent amount of muscle mass, but I'm certainly not super lean right now. I could stand to lose a good 5 or 10kg. My ideal weight would be 210-220lb/95-100kg, but I don't think 108kg is an unusual weight for a 199cm guy. How much do you weigh?
Jdubbz said on 28/Nov/22
Kevin said on 27/Nov/22
@Jdubbz
I think if you are taller than standard 6'8" doorframes here in the states you are a giant.
6'9"+: Giant
6'8": Borderline giant
6'6"-6'7": Extremely tall but not a giant
I don't think I've ever seen a real 7 footer IRL. Seen a handful of 6'8-6'10 guys and they certainly looked giant-like from my 6'0 POV
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@Kevin
I think that's reasonable. 6'8 doesn't seem *that* tall from my POV, but I'm a bit biased. I can hit doorframes earlier in the day with thick sneakers + orthotics, but obviously that's a lot different than a legit 6'8 barefoot.
I've seen a decent number of 6'8 and 6'9 guys and a handful of 6'10 and 6'11 guys over the years, but also one or two guys who were a bit above 7'0 (maybe 7'1 and 7'2). 6'8 - 6'11 guys definitely give off a super tall impression, but the 7'1 and 7'2 guys are on a different level. If you haven't seen 7 footers irl then I can certainly see why you'd consider 6'8+ guys to be giant, but those guys frankly look unimpressive when stacked up against someone over 7'.
I recently saw a video of Sun Ming Ming (7'9 barefoot) at an airport, and the dude almost looks inhuman (as far as his height goes). That's a true giant right there. Imagine being a full 2 feet taller than the average man and 2.5 feet taller than the average women. It's insane.
Darksol64 said on 28/Nov/22
@ everyone talking about 6'0 range guys claiming 6'2
I've mentioned my height many times on the comments here for various reasons, so I thought I'd take a picture of myself. Here's what an honest 6'1.5- 6'1.75 bedtime height looks like. Probably gives a taller impression than a lot of those 6'2 claimers. :P And I'm guessing Rob would give me a 6'2 listing.
Click Here Honest5'11" said on 28/Nov/22
@C-mo I'd say the male ideal is 185-187 cm at low. It's solid tall but not massive and you can easily build muscle with that height with not looking ridicolous like most men under 175 cm who do that do.
Rockaway said on 28/Nov/22
Just because you have doesn’t make what I said not true Canson. I can say with confidence my statement certainly applies to the entire population of China, Japan, India, etc… hence why I said “most people”… 6’6” barefoot is an extremely rare height and I consider it giant.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 28/Nov/22
Progking185 said on 27/Nov/22
I think 187tall is far from avg. A solid 4inches taller than modern white man EU.
Its about 6'2" generally. Even in tall countries like Finland, Croatia, Sweden etc this height is good 7cm taller than avg.
Maybe if we talking about 180-182range then i can see that "above average/low tall or not so far from avg".
Comentarista said on 28/Nov/22
@Emil
And what would you say is the average for mexican women?
TL said on 28/Nov/22
Hi Rob what do you think the heel height of these are?
Click Here AK World said on 28/Nov/22
Hello @Rob,
How accurate do you think this measurement was?
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Editor Rob
For that type of rough measurement, probably within half inch
Zaratustraelsabio said on 27/Nov/22
About the average height of world cup, Another source.
Transfermarkt
Click Here 1) Tallest teams
Serbia 187,0 Europe
Denmark 185,5 Europe
France 185,4 Europe
Belgium 185,2 Europe
Germany 185,2 Europe
Croatia 184,5 Europe
Morocco 184,4 Africa
Senegal 184,4 Africa
By Continent: 6 Europe / 2 Africa
2) Tall teams
Poland 184,3 Europe
Tunisia 184,2 Africa
Netherlands 184,1 Europe
Switzerland 184,1 Europe
IR Iran 184,0 Asia
England 183,0 Europe
Canada 182,9 Concacaf
Portugal 182,7 Europe
By Continent: 5 Europe / 1 Africa / 1 Asia / 1 Concacaf
3) Short teams
Wales 182,6 Europe
USA 182,1 Concacaf
Uruguay 181,8 Southamerica
Cameroon 181,8 Africa
Costa Rica 181,7 Concacaf
Korea Republic 181,1 Asia
Spain 181,1 Europe
Brazil 180,7 Southamerica
By Continent: 2 Europe / 1 Africa / 1 Asia / 2 Concacaf / 2 Southamerica
4) Shortest teams
Ecuador 180,5 Southamerica
Australia 180,1 Australia
Japan 180,0 Asia
Qatar 179,8 Asia
Ghana 179,6 Africa
Argentina 179,4 Southamerica
Mexico 179,2 Concacaf
Saudi Arabia 178,7 Asia
By Continent: 3 Asia / 2 Southamerica / 1 Africa / 1 Australia / 1 Concacaf
5) Average heights.
184,2cm Europe
182,9cm Africa
181,52cm Concacaf
180,75cm Asia
180,6cm Southamerica
180,1cm Australia
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 27/Nov/22
Being an average 5'9-5'10 is easily better than being 6'6. But yeh, 6'6 is better than 5'3 easily.
Hght181 said on 27/Nov/22
@Rob
Keyboard keys/buttons can wear out after long time use, but how carefully you use it can affect how quickly they wear out.
On a different note, the nipper sounds funny and keeps you entertained, I'm sure.

Editor Rob
More the lettering wears away on the keys with all the typing I do :)
Hght181 said on 27/Nov/22
@Rob
How come Mexicans are shorter than the Spanish?
Maahin Chowdhury said on 27/Nov/22
@Jdubbz
6’2 is not that common imo. Yea I sometimes see guys that height but not as much as guys that are under 6’0. Over 6’4 is where it gets rare. I can go out for a day and still not see a guy who is 6’5 or taller. If you live in the Netherlands, than yes 6’2 guys will be more common.
c-mo 176cm said on 27/Nov/22
@Jdubbz
yeah mate i agree 100%
my aim is not to offend 5'3 guys (or short men in general) either and i respect his opinion but i cant understand how any guy would take 5'3 over 6'6 .
i would even take being a heavy framed 6'6 over 5'7 and maybe even 5'8 . if the question was good proportioned 5'7 - 5'8 vs lanky / clumsy / bad proportioned etc 6'6 then i would probably take 5'8 but even then it would be worth taking time to think about it if i would take 5'7 or 6'6 in that case
6'6 vs 5'6 is not even a debate and i would take 6'6 in a heartbeat
5'9 is the first height that i would certainly take over 6'6 but that doesnt mean 6'6 is a "bad height"
some will probably think "hey at 5'9.25 you are not that much taller than 5'7 so how can you say this and you are probably biased because you are 5'9 range"
well the thing is that EVERY INCH below 5'9 / 5'10 is pretty much like a foot . the difference between 5'6 and 5'9 for example is IMMENSE . it is a more crucial and changing difference than 5'9 vs 6'0 would be even though both are 3 inches differences . the reason is that at 5'9 you are in the average hight range while at 5'6 you are short . at 5'9 your height will be just a standard casual non attention drawing feature . but at 5'6 you will often be seen as short and many people will notice you are short at the first second they meet you etc
also at 5'6 you are not much taller than the average young western world woman
5'3 is pretty much stand out short and defining level short . so i cant understand how he would take 5'3 over 6'6
in my opinion (and i think you will disagree but thats ok) 6'6 is too much and not an ideal height . but it has advantages . women will waaaay rather choose a 6'6 version of a guy vs short . some will even choose 6'6 over medium/average heights too . heck some would even choose 6'6 over 6'0 / 6'1
and you will also seem more intimidating to other men in a argument / fight scenario and many will think twice before messing with you . especially when you are heavy framed .
people will in general have more "respect" for you than they would have for short men
i read that tall men earn more money too but i dont know if thats true
these are all very crucial things
however i would be alert about some health issues at such tall heights though . very tall men unfortunately die earlier as far as i know
but i would rather die at 70 being 6'6 than live to 90 being 5'3 . but thats just me
Progking185 said on 27/Nov/22
@billythetreesurgeon, Generally your tall if your 182 at night, tallish sometimes around younger guys. It's a good height. I would guess you as maybe 183 midday? Below 182 night is more into the tallish/high average range.
Really though 182-187 night, or around lower 6'0 range, are tall heights that can feel tallish at times, or average on occasion lol. Not too far from average, but generally it's quite tall.
Progking185 said on 27/Nov/22
@billythetreesurgeon, Generally your tall if your 182 at night, tallish sometimes around younger guys. It's a good height. I would guess you as maybe 183 midday? Below 182 night is more into the tallish/high average range.
Kevin said on 27/Nov/22
@Jdubbz
I think if you are taller than standard 6'8" doorframes here in the states you are a giant.
6'9"+: Giant
6'8": Borderline giant
6'6"-6'7": Extremely tall but not a giant
I don't think I've ever seen a real 7 footer IRL. Seen a handful of 6'8-6'10 guys and they certainly looked giant-like from my 6'0 POV.
Crypto139 said on 27/Nov/22
How tall do you think Maksim Mrvica is? A Croatian musician. Just remembered his existence today after talking to someone about the Croatia/Canada game, and I've seen him both listed at 6 foot 4 and 6 foot 9, like that is a huge difference is source listings for sure. Based on pictures he seems closer to 6 foot 4 to 6 foot 9, unless he hangs out with very tall people all the time.
Canson said on 27/Nov/22
Rockaway said on 26/Nov/22
6’6” barefoot is most certainly giant. Most people can probably count on two hands how many people they’ve seen this height or taller in their life.
That’s not true. I’ve seen far more people in person that are over 6’6 than just 5-10
QM6'1.5"QM said on 27/Nov/22
Jdubbz said on 27/Nov/22
@Vy:
Holy Christ, are you 108 kgs ?!)
Are you fit and athletic or something else ?..
Emil said on 27/Nov/22
@Comentarista
I think 170 cm for middle class and above is reasonable. Wouldn't be surprised if overall average for Mexican men is 165-167 cm
Alex 6'0 said on 27/Nov/22
Progking, correct good amount of guys who claim 6'2 are 6'0-6'1 or 6'0-6'0.5. Guy at gym claims 6'5 and hes more 6'3 lol
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 27/Nov/22
dreus23 I’m about 184 morning - 182 at night so not tall not short, however I’ve worked out that if I use a pole extension chainsaw for a decent amount of time in the day I’ll be 5ft 11.5 flat at night, even after walking 3 miles back from the clubs at gone midnight. they are really heavy and require a lot of twisting etc and can’t be good for ones back tbh lol!! In real life I tend downplay my height a lot now if asked as I don’t want to seem like I’m trying to be 6ft… true 6.6 is pretty tall but it’s not giant by any means, may be because I’ve known the chap for years and years so I’m used to it.. Are you 5ft 7 at night?? Nice height dont let anyone tell you it isn’t!
Jdubbz said on 27/Nov/22
@Kvnggb
Those are pretty similar to my cutoffs. IMO:
5'10.5 - 6'0 = upper average
6'0 - 6'1.5 = tallish
6'1.5 - 6'4 = legit tall
6'4 - 6'7 = very tall
6'7 - 6'10 = extremely tall
6'10 - 7'0 = super tall (giant-ish?)
7'+ = gigantic
6'2 is such a common height in western countries these days. I can't fathom how anyone can think it's gigantic. Tall for sure, but giant?
Part of me even thinks 7' is too low of a cutoff for a true giant. Maybe something like 220cm/7'3 would be better. Idk if anyone agrees with that, but "giant" is used way too liberally these days.
Jdubbz said on 27/Nov/22
@c-mo 176cm:
Yeah, unless Kellan is a woman, that comment makes zero sense. I guess I'm biased but 5'3 vs 6'6 for a guy is an absolute no brainer. 5'9 or 5'10 vs 6'6 is debateable, but 5'3? That doesn't seem like a desirable height for a guy at all. No offense to 5'3 guys out there.
One could argue that average or tall is better than very tall in many ways (though I'd disagree), but being a very short guy seems like a huge disadvantage in modern society.
Jdubbz said on 27/Nov/22
dreus23 said on 26/Nov/22
@Billythetreesurgeon
How tall are you? I wouldn't say that 6'6 is as insanely impractical or abnormal a height as some people make it out to be, but I would say it's close to "giant" nonetheless. I mean, it's 8 inches taller than 5'10 which most would cons
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@dreus23
That's the thing, 6'6 is "only" 8 inches taller than average. That's not even a full head length. Sure it's very tall and really uncommon based on percentiles, I wouldn't say that a height that is less than a head taller than the average guy is close to a giant. 7'+ is a different story.
Jdubbz said on 27/Nov/22
@Vy:
Here are my stats:
6'6.25 evening (198.8 cm)
6'7 morning (200.66 cm)
21 inch shoulder width (biacromial) 24.5" (bideltoid).
9.7"/24.64cm head length
6'6.75/200cm wingspan
13-14 shoe size (US)
238 lbs/108 kg
37 inch inseam
My morning height used to be 6'7.25 (a full inch over my low) last year, but I only lose 3/4" now. It would be nicer if I stayed at 6'7.25 out of bed height and shrank less as opposed to losing morning height and staying at the same low, but it's whatever lol
Progking184 said on 26/Nov/22
@billythetreesurgeon yeah 6'6 isnt even giant, in general though its extremely tall and where more people look at you. I think the ranges are 6'0-6'1 as tall, 6'3-6'4 is very tall, 6'6-6'7 extremely tall, and then another few inches after that is more of a giant to most. Over 7'0 though definitely could be as your one of the rare tallest in the world.
Sandi said on 26/Nov/22
Hey Rob
How much above average would you say someone would be considered “tallish” but not “tall”? I thought 5’11 for man and 5’6 for woman. I might be wrong though

Editor Rob
Yeah, I've heard tallish being attributed to that kind of range (in UK/US).
Jdubbz said on 26/Nov/22
@Billythetreesurgeon:
Yeah exactly. It has some inconveniences, but it's still a pretty normal height overall. At least I feel that way.
chad michaels said on 26/Nov/22
@Rob, How much do you think these slides add?
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Editor Rob
They look like near 2 inch flip flops, biggest I've seen by far.
Can imagine Stallone walking around the Pool with those on.
Rockaway said on 26/Nov/22
6’6” barefoot is most certainly giant. Most people can probably count on two hands how many people they’ve seen this height or taller in their life.
dreus23 said on 26/Nov/22
@Billythetreesurgeon
How tall are you? I wouldn't say that 6'6 is as insanely impractical or abnormal a height as some people make it out to be, but I would say it's close to "giant" nonetheless. I mean, it's 8 inches taller than 5'10 which most would consider solid average, and 4 inches taller than 6'2 which is just an objectively tall height
@Vy
5'7.15 evening (170.6 cm)
5'7.7 morning (172 cm)
20.5 inch shoulder width
8.5 inch head length (21.5 cm)
5'7 bang on wingspan
7.5 shoe size (UK)
15 stone/208 lbs/95 kg
32 inch inseam
I'm an odd specimen. What's odd about my weight is that I don't even look fat. People usually can't believe that I'm that heavy. And I promise I'm not delusional about this, I legit don't look overweight. I've gained a lot recently though, and I've grown quite a bit since summer 2021, so I think I might be naturally bulking up. Finally, no idea if I'm even done with puberty, I look pretty young
Gian 181cm said on 26/Nov/22
@Rob
I am looking at the height of most England players and they are actually listed as shorter than they actually are, Alexander-Arnold is listed as 175cm, Henderson 183cm.
In Brazil Thiago Silva is listed as 183cm and Alisson Becker as 193cm. It looks like this file is based on google info when you search height lol.
The England national team average can be 6'0.
Poster said on 25/Nov/22
@Kevin: Are you talking about a 6'0 man or a 6'0 woman? I understand your point, though. I'm not sure what the 4'8 equivalent would be for a tall young white woman in her twenties. A 6'4 woman might be equivalent.
@Bobby: 4'11 is just an inch shorter than 5'0. That's really close. I'm sticking to 5'0 and 4'8 for men and women, respectively. The percentiles MIGHT reflect that, but I don't really know for sure.
Progking184 said on 25/Nov/22
@kvnggb yeah 6'2 isnt, maybe to some shorter people idk. It is quite bigger than a lot think, but still very much a regular tall height. Though when people call someone 6'2 I find like half of the time they are actually in the 6'0-6'1 range. Legit 6'2-6'4 range is definitely solid tall, and above that is where your standing out a lot more. Maybe 6'3.5 is where very tall starts, or close to 6'4 midday. 6'0-6'1 is like actually tall most of the time but I dont really like it when they claim taller when they are good around the 6'0 mark already lol.
Bislimi said on 25/Nov/22
Hey Rob. I measure 181.2-181.3 after being up for 12 hours. By CelebHeight standards would 5ft11.50 more likely be a listing for me than 5ft11.25 if I was a celebrity?
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 25/Nov/22
Jdubbz 6ft 6 isn’t giant or anything like that, (maybe to short guys).. best mate is that height, good height though even in a small car it’s fine for him to drive
c-mo 176cm said on 25/Nov/22
@Kellan
5'3 over 6'6 ? wow . are you serious ?
by the way since everybody is talking about the ideal height . in my opinion and according to my observations it is 180cm
also the vitruvian man by vitruvius and leonardo da vinci which is supposed to show the ideal body proportions of a male with mathematical applications / ratios etc. is 180cm
Comentarista said on 25/Nov/22
What would you say is Mexico's average height? To me it seems 170cm for men and 158cm for women. Thanks in advance for your Rob.

Editor Rob
Not sure it's quite 170cm.
ViridianForest said on 25/Nov/22
@Zaratustraelsabio Good find. However, a lot of the players height is inconsistent. Pulisic isn't 179cm, Foden isn't 180cm, Grealish and Trent Alexander-Arnold aren't 175cm, Bruno Fernandes is not 183cm, Eriksen is not 181cm and etc. I wouldn't use this report as solid evidence to compare the average height of each nation.
Gian 181cm said on 25/Nov/22
I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he measured 184cm in mid/late morning Rob, in those morning staff scans.
Found another photo, and now with a solid 5'11 guy (Son Heung Min):
Click Here Definitely at least 6'0, now what is the likely height? only Rob's analytical eyes to know xD
Thanks Rob, I think it's an interesting page for him, he is gaining prominence in this world cup and is a player for the traditional Tottenham Hotspur in London.
Kvnggb said on 25/Nov/22
6'2 is nowhere near giant, 6'1 - 6'3 tall | range 6'4 - 6'6 very tall range| 6'7 - 6'9 extremely tall |
6'10+ giant | below 6' you're pretty much average.
Kellan said on 25/Nov/22
@Maahin Chowdhury I agree the thought of being 6'6" is scary! 5'9", or whatever the average in a country is much better. Heck I'd take 5'3" over 6'6".
@John185 That's why I'm glad not to be any taller than ~6'0" flat at night.
Sean Forrest said on 25/Nov/22
The height I'd want to be the most if I could pick - 6'3.5-6'4 barefoot. It's the tallest height you can be without too much health risks and still taller than almost all of women 99%ile (5'11-6'0) even in big 4.5-4.75" heels.
Also doesn't look too disproportionately tall but still taller than majority of men.
Maahin Chowdhury said on 24/Nov/22
@vY
Here’s mine:
5’10.75 evening
5’11.3 morning
Idk what my shoulder width is
9.5 inch head length
5’9.5 wingspan
8.5 shoe size (UK)
9.3 stone/130 lbs yes that is pretty low for my height
I’m 17 btw
Zaratustraelsabio said on 24/Nov/22
Average height World Cup 22' by continent.
Europa 184,01
Africa 182,27
Centroamerica 181,12
Australia 180,96
Asia 180,77
Sudamerica 180,42
The latins are very short.
c-mo 176cm said on 24/Nov/22
@Poster
i think for a man in the western world below 5'5 is defining level short and heights like 5'0 , 4'11 are pretty extreme . however i am not sure if you can call it dwarfism yet medically speaking
Sandi said on 24/Nov/22
How much height do these pair give?
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Editor Rob
Would expect no less than 4 inches from them. Maybe a little fraction more.
Jdubbz said on 24/Nov/22
Maahin Chowdhury said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus
You really think 6’6 is a good height? Lol. It’s your opinion but I would hate being 6’6 mate. If you were 6’6 then you would most likely have a hard time banging your head and getting cramped up in cars, plane seats and in bed. 6’2-6’3 is probably the tallest height I’ll go for and honestly I’d rather be 5’9 than 6’6.
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Uh, speaking from experience, 6'6 is not an uncomfortable height at all. Cramped up in cars? There are plenty of cars that can accommodate very tall people. My 4 year old honda accord does just fine. Planes? Ok, but unless you fly every week and only buy the cheapest possible economy seat, leg room isn't an issue. Beds? There are plenty of different types of beds that accommodate people over 6'6. King and queen size beds are 80"/6'8 long, and certain king size beds even go up to 84"/7 feet.
If you don't want to be 6'6 that's fine, but don't make it out to be some weird freakish height, because it's not. You can live a perfectly comfortable life at 6'6.
Gian 181cm said on 24/Nov/22
Rob, in your opinion, how tall is Richarlison? He claimed 184 centimeters on twitter.
Photos of him with Firmino (180cm):
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Neymar (173cm):
Click Here He looks 6'0 to me at least, I've seen him listing at 181cm on the transfer market.
He is relatively famous Rob, maybe considering a page is interesting, he is 25 years old, possibly has almost 1 decade of career ahead of him.

Editor Rob
181 is too low for him, maybe see what other folk think as I wouldn't guess under 6ft but is he as tall as his 184 claim?
Kevin said on 24/Nov/22
@Poster
I would agree with 5'0 and 4'8. 4'10 isn't far enough below the average to be considered a midget for white women. It's like calling 6'0 a "giant".
Bobby said on 24/Nov/22
@Poster
I don't consider 5ft a midget for men. My thresholds are sub-5ft for both sexes. Maybe 4'11 for men and 4'6 for women.
Iforgotmyusername said on 24/Nov/22
Hi Rob
I’m 23 and I’ve measured my height quite regularly over the last recent years with tape measure (all properly - barefoot, standing upright, using my hand to gauge the top of my head into the tape measure, keeping it level and parallel as I can) and ultimately I’m around a solid 176 cm range with an eye level close to 164 cm, and results had always stayed the same throughout those years of measurement - and I know for a fact that my eye level is about a good 12-ish cm range (lower than average)
But however just yesterday around late night (2 pm UK time) I decided to measure myself again a few times and found out I was only about 175 cm each time each measure... despite my eye level still being almost 164 cm dead on, currently I’m not feeling well (I’m coming from a pretty bad cold, I do feel more dreadful, weaker, tired / exhausted overall - joints and even my lower back were aching) so did illness played some kind of role in this strange height reduction? Or did my eye level somehow increased (which I don’t think is possible at all..) whilst my physical height was reduced like that randomly?
Sorry if this may seem like a strange question but it definitely got the insecure side of me out and now it’s almost on my mind ever since (yes I’m quite insecure when it comes to height) but I would really appreciate your take on this, cheers Rob.

Editor Rob
Very unlikely to have shrunk, though exhaustion/dehydration is a possible reason for a small fractional difference.
If you've measured in the same area, using the same method and tape, it is a strange one to get near a cm difference.
Gian 181cm said on 24/Nov/22
@Zaratustraelsabio
Actually Argentina is 179.4cm and these mentioned countries are 179.2cm, but if you want to consider both 5'10.5 that's fine.
I reviewed the average height of Asia, in fact it is taller than the South American, it is 180.7cm.
@Arch Stanton
Yes, it's a world trend, the average height of goalkeepers has also increased, we had Iker Casillas with 1.81m, Cláudio Taffarel with 1.81-82m (world champion for Brazil and Liverpool's goalkeeping coach), it's very rare to see goalkeepers with highlights under 6'1 in 2022. In this cup there is Yann Sommer who plays for Switzerland who is 1.83m tall. There's Pickford for England, despite him being a tall guy, the average for goalkeepers is around 6'2.
But overall all the positions are taller compared to the past.
@Emil
Yes, I agree, the average should be more around 180cm, maybe 181cm. In Europe I wouldn't rule out 182cm, but 5'11 3/8 to 5'11 3/4 would be my guess.
Big Ben said on 24/Nov/22
Hello Rob.
Click Here How tall does she look next to me? She claims 161 cm. It should be noted I'm leaning on one leg but I'm not sure how much height I'm losing there.
And yes, I'm aware I look like the most stereotypical Scandinavian you could possibly imagine 😹 🇸🇪

Editor Rob
You could look nearly 8 inches taller, albeit maybe top of her head is further away making her look shorter than 160cm.
Jake: 1.84 m - 1.85 m said on 23/Nov/22
Rob, what about a page for Adam DiMarco? He's been in a bunch of shows...
adrianposter said on 23/Nov/22
The most ideal height for having the benefits of being tall with living a normal human life would probably be in the 185-193 cm range.
Poster said on 23/Nov/22
I was just curious. Where would people start "midget height" for white American men and white American women in their twenties? I would start it at 5'0 for guys, and I would start it at 4'8 for girls. I don't buy the 4'10 start for both.
Zaratustraelsabio said on 23/Nov/22
Recheck your info, Argentina is also the shortest team. (Saudi Arab and Mexico too).
And Asia is taller than Southamerica.
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Gian 181cm said on 22/Nov/22
I was analyzing the average height of this year's world cup teams, Serbia is the tallest at 6'1.75 and Qatar, Mexico, Saudi Arabia are the shortest at 5'10.5.
There are some 6'6-6'8 players who push the average of some teams up there.
The overall average is 181,7cm/5'11.5, 181cm for North America, 184cm for Europe, 180.5cm for Asia, 182.5cm for Africa, 180.5cm for South America.
Out of curiosity, the average height of soccer/soccer players in CH is 181cm.
Peter 180cm said on 23/Nov/22
@ Andul-DK It's even finer when you can measure it earlier in the day and feel closer to the magic 1.85m threshold while wearing shoes haha.
Hght181 said on 23/Nov/22
@Rob
So.. you're nearly minding the nipper full-time then? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Until nursery age isn't that bad, time goes by fast these days anyway. Enjoy cartoon watching😄

Editor Rob
She's not a fan of football. I turned the TV on and the match came up and she immediately said OFF!
When ads come on Youtube she gives a high pitch scream 😆
Hght181 said on 23/Nov/22
@Rob
Just jenny's keyboard? lol.
And what kind of keyboard do you own?

Editor Rob
My keyboard is a hand me down, from a friend who had too many! The lettering on a lot of the keys of my past keyboard had worn out with all the typing!
Arch Stanton said on 23/Nov/22
Walk through the cobble streets of Amalfi at 6 ft 4 and you should feel like a giant. Lots of men who aren't even 5 ft 6 there! Perhaps in a big city with lots of people like Milan or Rome it doesn't seem quite so tall. I noticed the same thing Gian, a lot more footballers are six footers these days from when I was really into football in the 90s.
Emil said on 23/Nov/22
@Alex 6'0
I think you and I would get very similar measurements over the day.
My out of bed height can be a whisker below 6'1 though, but 1 hour out bed I'm also around 6'0.5 flat. Given my higher morning height it seems that I shrink more than you do though - thus, I think you'd edge my out come bed time haha.
Jdubbz said on 23/Nov/22
John185 said on 21/Nov/22
I respectfully disagree - as I mentioned overall head size is important for best possible aesthetics, not merely in relation to body proportions. People that are 6'2+ have heads that simply look too big overall (in real life) to be considered ideal aesthetically. Onscreen is a completely different matter.
Although being proportionate is of course good for the aesthetics of any given height without a doubt.
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@John 185
So you're talking about absolute head size and not head to body ratio? In that case you're right, but I don't see why a large head that is proportionate to body size is a bad thing for aesthetics. Honestly, I don't even notice head size unless it's overly small or overly large compared to someone's stature/frame. I get where you're coming from though.
As far as moderately tall heights being better from a convenience perspective, you are absolutely right. Better overall? Of course I am biased, but I would have to disagree. Sure you don't get all the drawbacks of being tall at 6'1, but you definitely don't get all the benefits either. There are many less obvious perks to being very tall (at least 2SD above average) especially when it comes to how you are perceived by other people.
To put it simply, towering over someone leaves quite an impression on him/her and you are treated differently because of it. It seems as if people are more likely to automatically respect or view very tall people as more competent than they really are, despite having done nothing to deserve it. The change in perception has been super noticeable for me, especially as I've gone from the normal tall range (6'1 - 6'3) to very tall (6'4 - 6'6). I can only imagine the type of reception that super tall guys get.
At the end of the day, I think that the heights you mentioned are a good compromise between the perks of being tall and the comforts of being closer to average height. Of course you don't get all the benefits from either category, but it's pretty much a jack of all trades and master of none type of situation. I would not trade my height for 6'0-2, but it's an objectively great height range for a guy. That, we can agree on.
Emil said on 23/Nov/22
@Gian 181cm
Pretty sure you can substract 2-3 cm from that average. Most footballers are overlisted.
The Danish team being a prime example
Emil said on 23/Nov/22
I meant white Americans are tall also by European standards. Kek
Black Noir said on 23/Nov/22
Hey rob could we plz get a page for Greg doucette? He’s a great bodybuilder
vY said on 23/Nov/22
Here is my body measurement post puberty at 21
6’1.5 night height
6’2.25 morning height
18.5 inch shoulder width
9.6 inch head length
10.5 foot size
6’0.5 wing span
160 lbs
Let me know what ur stats are if you want
Kevin said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus
No doubt 6'2 is a solid tall height but I think calling it a "mini giant" is exaggerating a bit.
Emil said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus
It's not like 4 cm sneakers should make that much of a difference. I see tons of people wearing footwear that thick.
At 185 cm you're taller than 90% of guys in Liverpool in any case is my estimate
Maahin Chowdhury said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus
You really think 6’6 is a good height? Lol. It’s your opinion but I would hate being 6’6 mate. If you were 6’6 then you would most likely have a hard time banging your head and getting cramped up in cars, plane seats and in bed. 6’2-6’3 is probably the tallest height I’ll go for and honestly I’d rather be 5’9 than 6’6.
Progking184 said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus yeah I find any extra height gain with shoes I notice quite a bit, 189 in shoes is regular tall though imo. I believe you would look 186 range to most. Im normally like 188 in my shoes and feel generally tall enough, I did notice I felt pretty tall when trying some shoes once that got me to 189-190 in them. Barefoot at that height thats getting into standout tall in general
@Italianguy yeah its regular tall for sure, I think once above 188 its getting into more standout
185cmJeff said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus I’m 185cm at night and I live about 20 miles or so from London, and when I wore my airmax 720’s in the past during the day I was about 6ft2.5/slightly over and I felt very tall, it’s a very good height, in the morning first thing I measured myself in them and I was 191cm.
Rockaway said on 22/Nov/22
6’2 - 6’3 is definitely the best height range.
Anything taller than that, I think there’s a strong argument to be made some negatives start kicking in (unwanted attention, finding clothes that fit, tight spaces, health, etc)
Gian 181cm said on 22/Nov/22
I noticed that at least since 2006 the averages of world cup players in general have been growing. The average in 2018 was 182.4cm and the median was 183cm.
In this world cup, tall teams like Russia (184.7cm in 2018) and Iceland (185.7cm in 2018) are not present.
Emil said on 22/Nov/22
White Americans are tall also by global standards. I wouldn't even be surprised if Greg was slightly below the national average for his ethnicity.
Dude also bashes heights above 6'3. Seems like a jealous type
Emil said on 22/Nov/22
@adrianjacobs
Half an inch difference lmao.
And like I said, I believe average height could be higher in richer areas but by 2-3 cm tops. Why does it matter so much to you anyway lol.
Gian 181cm said on 22/Nov/22
I was analyzing the average height of this year's world cup teams, Serbia is the tallest at 6'1.75 and Qatar, Mexico, Saudi Arabia are the shortest at 5'10.5.
There are some 6'6-6'8 players who push the average of some teams up there.
The overall average is 181,7cm/5'11.5, 181cm for North America, 184cm for Europe, 180.5cm for Asia, 182.5cm for Africa, 180.5cm for South America.
Out of curiosity, the average height of soccer/soccer players in CH is 181cm.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 22/Nov/22
Jonus said 21/Nov/22
Yes, of course, maybe 5-10% of men are taller than you.
To be honest, I'm really an 187cm guy and only 1cm shy of the 6'2 mark in the evening (barefoot) and that's pretty much how I feel.
Darksol, Public Enemy and QM6'1.5" can only confirm this words ;))
Hght181 said on 22/Nov/22
@Rob
I prefer to keep a low profile on here, I retract some of my revealing statements for a reason and I don't want to reveal too much. I am afraid people will jump to conclusions about me, often people do.

Editor Rob
It's useful to be cautious with what we reveal.
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 22/Nov/22
Peter 180cm
If I saw you I’d probably think you are taller than me, I’m 182 at night but my eye level is only 5ft 6 by that point
AB-177CM said on 22/Nov/22
Click Here @Adrian
trust me, overall average in nordic countries is like 177-181 cm. I think personally more 177-178 cm.
John185 said on 21/Nov/22
182cm/183cm - 188cm/189cm are generally speaking ideal heights.
6'2/6'2½ stands out a fair amount in the UK and more so collectively worldwide.
I personally think the best range is 184cm - 186cm for the reason that it's generally 1 standard deviation above the mean, but doesn't stand out too much. Anything above 185cm/186cm starts to become really quite noticeable. The proportions of 184cm - 186cm are also ideal with regard to body length vs head size in real life, and it's a universally convenient range to be in.
There isn't much utility to heights above 186cm. Considering pros vs cons in everyday life - more moderately tall heights are better.
John185 said on 21/Nov/22
182cm/183cm - 188cm/189cm are generally speaking ideal heights.
6'2/6'2½ stands out a fair amount in the UK and more so collectively wordwide.
I personally think the best range is 184cm - 186cm for the reason that it's generally 1 standard deviation above average but doesn't stand out too much. Anything above 185cm/186cm starts to become really quite noticeable.
The proportions of 184cm - 186cm are also ideal with regard to body length vs head size in real life, and it's a universally convenient range to be in.
There isn't much utility to heights above 186cm. Considering pros vs cons in everyday life - more moderately tall heights are better.
John185 said on 21/Nov/22
Jdubbz said on 16/Oct/22 @John185
I’ve seen way, way more 6’1 guys with overly large looking heads than 6’2+ guys with the same proportions.
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I respectfully disagree - as I mentioned overall head size is important for best possible aesthetics, not merely in relation to body proportions. People that are 6'2+ have heads that simply look too big overall (in real life) to be considered ideal aesthetically. Onscreen is a completely different matter.
Although being proportionate is of course good for the aesthetics of any given height without a doubt.
At 6'0¾ I wouldn't really want to be any taller, it's towards the upper limit in terms of convenience. For those of us typically in the 80th+ percentile in western countries and 95th+ percentile worldwide, and when convenience is factored in, it really is better to be more moderately tall.
Personally, I don't mind standing out a bit, but wouldn't want to stand out to a greater degree.
6'1 give or take half and inch (or more accurately 6'0½ - 6'1¼) is pretty much the maximum to never have to worry about legroom or headroom when travelling in cars/trains/planes. All beds fit this range no matter where in the world you are, and consequently, being a frequent visitor to South and East Asia as well as European destinations, I find my height to be pretty much at an optimum.
Jonus said on 21/Nov/22
@Jdubbz
Poor choice of words by me lol, sorry I was in a rush. I always wanted to be 6'6 growing up, I was obsessed with being huge as I grew up watching all the badass films and shows like batman, superman, DBZ etc.
That badass super villain I saw on TV looked cool, I always wanted to be tall as so there is honestly nothing wrong being 6'6 lol it must be tons of fun. As I've gotten older and matured and gotten to know what people and their personalities are like, I started to change my mind and I would take nearer 6'3 over 6'6, personally I don't like attracting attention and I don't like talking to people. I really like the 6'2-6'3 range, it's tall but I won't have people coming to ask me questions about my height. I would be TEMPTED to even pick 6'4 but no more for me personally.
6'6 again is nice, i just don't like the attention from people. I was walking around as a 6'2 guy and people were giving me looks, so imagine as a six six dude! I would pick 6'6 over an average height of like 5'10. 5'10 is boring man - it's a nice height, but u guys are missing out. Being tall is hella fun man, I was walking around and I felt like Zeus man, it felt awesome
adrianjacobs said on 21/Nov/22
@Emil
If you really think the average is 181.7cm, then you write 5'9.5-6'1.5 instead of 5'10-6'2 like you did in one of your previous posts. If you are afraid of admitting that the average begins with the number 6' anywhere, because people on this website will go crazy, then just don't.
dreus23 said on 21/Nov/22
@AdrianJacobs
Did you miss the part where I downright admitted that it was "amateurish"? It's not science or anything, it was just something I did out of sheer, unadulterated boredom; it's not "legitimate", "serious", or necessarily "correct" in any way
Also, "are you basing that on the heights you think they are", uh, yeah. That's the entire concept of this website. Since most people don't walk around with a measuring tape, all we can do is estimate people's height based on how they look with other people we have seen get measured. And the total sum, divided by its parts, in this case, was 179.0487654321
Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Rob
Just seen your video.. so Nipper broke your keyboard? Maybe deleted something😕 Also, I clicked the link on my old iPad. I'm an android user and I don't wanna cast it to smart TV's around my house, lol.

Editor Rob
A touch of humour. That's Jenny's keyboard :)
Mine is out of reach!
Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Bobby
I didn't get to respond to your comment before. Anyway, here's my response. As a result of my fear of attracting to much attention, sometimes I walk back some of my controversial statements.
Furthermore, when it comes to topics I don't have experience with, it is difficult for me to write about them but this isn't the main reason.
Poster said on 20/Nov/22
@Bobby: It doesn't make sense to me. Men and women shouldn't be in the same category, and Northwest Europeans and Southeast Asians shouldn't be in the same category. People can just add to this. Personally (for younger white Americans), I would start it at 5'0 for men while I would start it at 4'8 for women. YMMV
Glacierr said on 20/Nov/22
Hi Rob, the rapper Nba Youngboy measured his height but I am not sure what it was because the person measuring him did not read the measuring tape correctly and thought 67 inches was 6’7 but it seems like he is in the 5’8 range
Click Here (at 1:40)

Editor Rob
Honestly, it's difficult for the short girl to get a rough idea of his height...
NBA actually did a far better job revealing her height because of his advantage in being a head taller and easier to hold the tape beside and near the top of her head.
Emil said on 20/Nov/22
@adrianjacobs
According to military conscript data, the national median height for men is 181.7 cm, I think. I do believe average could be a tad over 183 cm in wealthier areas, though.
Jdubbz said on 20/Nov/22
@Jonus:
Haha, it's cool that you got such a kick out of experiencing being 6'2 barefoot, but I'm a bit confused by your comment. Clearly you enjoy the feeling of towering over people and looking like a giant, but then you imply 6'6 is awkwardly tall. Trust me brother, it's not. Based on how you describe enjoying the experience of being taller than other tall guys and looking massive in your reflection, you would probably love being 6'6 as well. Or at least 6'4-5. I understand 5" is a pretty massive leap in height.
Frankly I'm kind of surprised that you felt that way at "only" 6'2. If I shrunk 4 inches, I would feel way shorter than I'm used to, being that much closer to average height. in fact, I think 6'2 is just as close to average height as it is to my height. At the end of the day, I suppose it's just a matter of perception and what you're used to.
Peter 180cm said on 20/Nov/22
In relation to height claims: I think if you claim any height you can measure barefoot throughout the day you're gonna be accurate. But i would rule out the two extremes(max morning and lowest evening after an active work-day for example, although that might still be considered accurate). In my case I've claimed anything from 179-182 in the past and sometimes even 178(but i just downplayed on that one just to mess with people's minds lol). I think the most accurate answer is to say a general range,such as 180-181 in my case.But even then some people will try to tell you must be shorter or taller (usually taller, especially if you have long limbs).
Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Rob
Still minding the nipper? lol.
I don't watch every game too, I prefer watching the big games and England ones.
Yeah evening matches are relaxing especially after a busy day.

Editor Rob
Yes, 4 days a week until nursery age.
I remember a few world cups in which I watched nearly every match, but out of circumstances like I said, will end up watching a lot less...
Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Sandy Cowell
Did you hear about the Qatar beer ban at the wc?
adrianjacobs said on 20/Nov/22
@Emil
At least you're being honest about the average in your country, unlike swedes. I agree with you that the average in Denmark could be somewhere around 6ft. I could see it as slightly over that as well.
I would say an inch or slightly more taller in Sweden.
Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Emil
Some here take height very seriously then again they may more passionate about it.
Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Rob
Will you be watching the football?
QATAR ⚽😎

Editor Rob
This would deny the Nipper and myself the joys of watching Bounce Patrol 😃
So some 1pm matches are out.
4pm matches are out too as I'm doing caring duties.
But any evening match I plan to watch.
adrianjacobs said on 20/Nov/22
@dreus23
Did you just base that on the height they claim to be and the height you think they are? :)
It's very interesting how you also make that sound like a "legit" estimation of the average.
chad michaels said on 19/Nov/22
@Rob, How much do you think these shoes give?
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Editor Rob
I'm thinking the insole on that converse-mod is likely sitting around the middle of the little white line on the outsole that is protruding, so could be almost 2 inches.
Harold Green said on 19/Nov/22
Hi Rob,
I would like to ask if someone is measured at 6’2 5/8 which is 189.548cm and you were to add that person in this specific height at celebheights page. Would you round that up to 190cm or round down to 189cm. I know for 6’0 1/4 celebrities they get rounded up to 184cm for celebheights when the actual number is 183.515 but one of my new colleague at work told me about his measurement from his doctor that he is around 6’2 5/8 and he doesn’t know if he should claim 189 or 190 cm tall.

Editor Rob
I would take account of how tall they appear with others and the measurement, because there is always time of day to consider. 6ft 2.5 might be a likelier listing for an athlete from nba/nfl as they will rarely be getting measured after lunch.
Emil said on 19/Nov/22
@QM6'1.5"QM
Where are you from? I'm 6'0 Danish, and most guys in my country are between 5'10-6'2, but in Southern Europe and the UK I can definitely tell people are noticeably shorter.
dreus23 said on 18/Nov/22
Alright, since there is a discussion about the average height of Sweden, I guess I might chime in with my own observations. I actually did some statistics for fun this last week on Sweden's average height, as I've been sick all week and therefore have been staying home a lot. It was pretty amateurish; the way I did it was by looking at some videos of a guy who goes around and interviews people on the street. The first time I did it, the count was 162 guys and 93 girls. The average for guys turned out to be 179 cm, and for girls 165 cm. I did it a second time, now with a total count of 203 guys. That time, the average for men was 178.7 cm
I also estimated the heights of a few male teachers at my school while I was at it. Based on the 15 of them who's heights I'm relatively sure of, the average was 178.4 cm
And finally, I estimated some heights of a bunch of Swedish actors I've regularly watched. The average, with a count of 72 male actors, was 180.5 cm. Also, I could not find any remotely even semi-famous actors noticeably under 170 cm. There were three actors under 170 cm; one who was 169 cm, one 168-169 cm, and one 164 cm. There weren't many actors over 190 cm either though. So I guess you could say that 170 cm is the cutoff for too short whereas 190 cm is the cutoff for too tall. Pretty annoying industry
Generally, anything from 177-181 cm, I'd call "solid average". But really anything from 175-183 cm I'd say could be considered in the average "range"
Jonus said on 18/Nov/22
Hey guys been a bit. So Imma cut straight to the point. I'm 6ft1 (186.6cm in the morning) and I've been experimenting with height. When I wear footwear to get me to 188cm bang on or in that 187-188cm range I feel like a regular tall dude. Can see over the head of the majority of people but nothing special blah blah blah.
When I wear vans or flat shoes, again I'm like 187cm flat in them and can dip to 186.5 as the day goes on. Again, it's wayyyyyyy above average to just be above average so imma say it's about regular tall as well nothing special, can see above the heads of a lot of people but nothing that would shock the eye ya feel me? It's a good height.
However this is when I entered an entirely different realm of height. It's so odd How different I felt and it was only 1cm or so compared to my normal footwear. When I wear footwear to get me to 189cm-190cm range I felt HUGE. Like a MINI GIANT - Freaking massive dude. I've been told on numerous occasions I have very broad shoulders so maybe that helped, I am also 81kgs (180lbs, mass from the gym). But dude it felt F*CKING AWESOME. I remember walking in the store and looked at my reflection in the window where I was surrounded by people looking for items and even I was shocked as to how freaking MASSIVE I looked, I thought to myself "woah holy SHIT I look big as hell" I was aghast as to how tall I looked even a bit frightened as to how big I looked haha - but I freaking enjoyed it man. Don't take this as arrogance please, I'm just explaining my experience and how I felt. I normally wear about 2.5cm-3cm worth of footwear. This was my first experience wearing 3.5cm-4cm footwear.
I remember walking and getting looks from people several times, so I think I looked intimidating. But man I felt like a mini giant. I was taller than people who were quite tall themselves. I remember seeing a dude that looked about 6ft tall, maybe 5'11.25-6ft range and I towered his ass. Like I said man it felt freaking AWESOME! 6'2.25 is such a fun height man. It feels MASSIVE but not so massive. Like if I had to pick 6'2.25 or 6'6 I'd easily pick 6'2.25 at night. It's tall as but not awkwardly tall ya know? It's good for general life. But yeah man that's my lil height story. being over 6'2 is fun as hell
Darksol64 said on 18/Nov/22
@ Jdubbz & Bobby
My mistake with Beau, I didn't see the measurement video. Hey, even better if he's a legit 7'0-7'1 to prove the point I was trying to make; that even extreme heights aren't automatically bad like some people shorter than those heights want to argue. Sure, you might get a little more attention than you'd like at times in public being 7 ft, but I'd take his height over mine if it came with good genetics like that....just because, haha. Next time someone starts that BS talking bad about tall heights just go tell them to check out BigBeau.
Also @Jdubbz
Honestly at over 6'6 I would of by default thought you have "enough height to spare" over someone like me to not notice a difference with an inch of footwear, but it's too true about how much of difference and inch actually makes so I can understand you feeling the same way. I'm in an interesting place where the extra inch almost puts me into the very tall zone and I absolutely feel the difference and the towering effect over most guys is satisfying from a psychological POV. Don't always wear them. The best part is probably Rob wouldn't even be able to spot the lift unless the shoes come off.
Speaking of shoes I always cringe when I see 5'9 guys thinking they can buy a pair of giant platform shoes to be 6 ft. I always try to talk them out of it. For one you need to hit the 6'1 mark to appear like an actual 6 ft guy would, and worse yet even if you find a 4-inch shoe it's going to wreck your knees and be uncomfortable as hell. You'll also be a really weird looking 6 ft dude with the super long lower-legs, short arms/proportions. It just looks too fake and easy to spot. Plus you'll be paralyzed with fear if someone asks you to take the shoes off. XD I always suggest going with a 2 inch shoe max, for a (comfortable) inch boost to put you at an ABOVE average height, and enjoy.
Bobby said on 18/Nov/22
@Poster
The Mayo Clinic definition makes perfect sense to me, though. In any case, I thought the link was prudent simply to provide academic evidence to naysayers.
adrianjacobs said on 18/Nov/22
@QM6'1.5"QM
Wait, what? Wrong about which estimations?
Do you live in Sweden as well? If you don't, I don't see what your perception of average has to do with this. I was talking about the average in Sweden and Denmark, where I don't think you live.
The official average in Sweden is 5'11, and 5'11.25 according to some sources. So according to the statistics, it's the middle range of average, not upper.
Progking185 said on 18/Nov/22
@Bobby yeah he's 7'0 for sure, I thought maybe under that at first but 7'0 guys have a bit bigger head on average His 7'1 claim is in shoes. Watching his go pro videos especially he does look at least that compared to the public.
@Jdubbz yeah 1.25 is like the max amount most guys have on. So he's 6'2.5-6'2.75 and closer to 6'3 in public, quite standout
QM6'1.5"QM said on 18/Nov/22
adrianjacobs said on 18/Nov/22
I think you're def wrong about your estimations!
5'11" is in the middle of my forehead ...and the most of people are shorter.
~5'11" is a highest avg or the end of avg range. Maybe you have some cognitive dissonance or just can't compared heights by your eye level and the top of the head etc...
Idk but you claim that 3 on 30 of women at least 6'1" ... it's impossible. It's maybe accurate for volleyball & basketball teams!
No hate man, just my comment!
Emil said on 18/Nov/22
@adrianjacobs
Maybe take a chill pill, dude. You seem extremely edgy
adrianjacobs said on 18/Nov/22
@Emil
I don't pay attention to statistics when it comes to average height at all. The "official" average height (5'11) in Sweden is absolutely absurd and is not based on reality.
I think you were telling yourself that is there is no difference between these two countries because you thought that it shouldn't be any. It seemed pretty clear to me. As soon as I saw women in Denmark close to me in height, I immediately noticed how they were talking swedish. I actually rarely felt below average, which I do practically all the time in Stockholm.
There is no reason for me to inflate the average height in Sweden either, because I'm patriotic or something. I despise this country. I don't see why everyone likes to downplay the average height in Sweden so much though. I didn't noticed any difference in height here compared to the Netherlands.
Gian 181cm said on 18/Nov/22
@Jokey
It's possible, claiming 181cm for you wouldn't be bad bro. But of course, claim what you feel most comfortable with.
@Jdubbz
Yes bro, sometimes I see some people leave scientific articles as if they were something irrefutable or absolute truth (not necessarily Avi's case, but I think he could have explained it better).
Healthy lifestyle to improve life expectancy and your life in general, that's scientific consensus.
jokey said on 17/Nov/22
Gian 181cm said on 17/Nov/22
@Jokey
You're practically my height, I'm late at night about 5'11 1/8, and you're 5'11. You're still growing, apparently, in a few months we'll be the same height xD.
there's a small chance of ending up exactly 2cm taller than i was at 19. i would rule out 5'11.25 because 1 inch is too much for a final height bonus.
Jdubbz said on 17/Nov/22
@Gian 181cm:
You're absolutely right man. I tend to get pretty worked up in these situations. Plus, it's a lose lose situation. I'm never going to change Avi's mind, and he's never going to change mine. As you said, it's best to move on.
Jdubbz said on 17/Nov/22
@Darksol64:
I agree completely, on both points. To be honest, if you're just under 6'4 in those shoes, you're probably more similar to a 6'3 barefoot guy than a 6'2.5 barefoot guy. I'm pretty sure that the average sneaker gives closer to 7/8 - 1" of height as opposed to 1.25", but I could be wrong on that. If you're equivalent to a 6'3 barefoot guy, then I'm not surprised that you feel closer to 1/50 than 1/20. It goes to show that a small amount of extra height makes a huge difference in perception and rarity when you're already well over 6 feet tall.
Even at my height (6'6.25 barefoot), it's pretty crazy how much of a difference footwear can make. In shoes like vans or converse that give way less than an inch of height, I don't feel nearly as tall as I do when wearing thick sneakers with orthotics (1.5 - 1.75" boost). Maybe it's also because those thick sneakers with orthotics bring me very close to 6'8, (which is doorframe height), but you wouldn't think that an extra inch of footwear would make THAT much of a difference in terms of self perception when you're already very tall.
I am familiar with Beau. I think he is actually a legit 7'1 barefoot guy (measured in one of his videos), which makes his build/physique even crazier. In my experience, the people who constantly talk about how being tall or very tall means you automatically have messed up proportions are insecure about their height and want to be taller. People who are satisfied with their height usually don't make stupid blanket generalizations like that. I've seen lanky looking average height dudes who look tall from a distance, and very tall guys with stocky proportions who look shorter than they actually are. Body types vary so much, regardless of height.
Obviously the likelihood of being gangly/lanky increases when you're well over 6 feet and closer to 7 feet, but as you said, there are so many other factors involved. Shoulder width, leg to torso ratio, wingspan, head size, neck size, etc.
Emil said on 17/Nov/22
@adrianjacobs
Thanks for answering.
I was just asking because I don't live in Sweden so I was merely curious.
And no, I guess 6'3-6'4 isn't enormous for an American man, but it's still higher than the 97% percentile, as is 182 cm for a Scandinavian woman. That's 2 standard deviations above average. Pretty tall if you ask me, although it isnt outlier tall of course. It still falls within a normal distribution.
I've been to Stockholm a couple times. I can't tell if people there are taller or shorter compared to Copenhagen. It seems very similar though, and honestly I'm completely agnostic unless I'm presented with valid statistical data (which I know isn't always flawless either). One thing I do know, however, is that Scandinavian people are amongst the tallest in the world.
I have been able to tell a difference in London and some US cities where even I've stood out a bit with my 183 cm, which statistically falls into average range for Scandinavian men. But average height in the UK and the US is also 5'9-5'10. A 2-3 inch difference is noticeable for me, but less than that is hard for me to spot. Unless I stand near the given person.
Then I've been to South East Asia, where even in big cities I've gone days without spotting someone my own height or taller.
I think it's amazing how height can differ so much depending on where you are in the world.
Poster said on 17/Nov/22
@Jdubbz: I explained this very well in my other comments. Some dwarfs have proportionate features, and they were called midgets before that allegedly became an insult. Not all dwarfs have stubby arms and stubby legs like some famous actors. Some of them, like the women you mentioned, just look like very tiny people.
Also, the 4'10 cutoff, for all adults, is not MY definition. That definition comes from an advocacy group for "little people". I also explained that cutoff heights should be based on ethnicity and gender. Rob provided an example of why that is.
@Bobby: The Mayo Clinic definition is evidently based on the advocacy group's definition, which makes no sense to anybody on this forum. All to most people think that the 4'10 cutoff height is too tall for women.
Jdubbz said on 17/Nov/22
@Bobby:
Nope, it's his most recently uploaded video. Go to 2:47 and pause - you'll see exactly what I mean.
Bobby said on 17/Nov/22
@Darksol64
I know 7ftVlogs. Beau is genuinely 7ft tall. He had his friend measure his height with a measuring tape, he had to use a stepping stool. His friend left his hand at the mark, and when Beau zoomed in with the camera, his friend's finger was on the 7ft mark.
I know people have said he might be 6'11 or something, but Beau went on a video record showing his height. His friend, Trey, though, is allegedly 6'6. His friend, Dillan, the guy who measured him, is 5'10.5 or something. Beau towers EVERYONE. He looks genuinely gigantic. Maybe he'll dip into 6'11.75 territory, but he's a legit 7ft.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 17/Nov/22
Imo:
6'0-6'2 reg tall
6'3-6'5 very tall
6'6-6'8 extremely tall
6'9+ gigantic.
TDL said on 17/Nov/22
Hey Rob what do you think the heel height of these boots are?
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Editor Rob
At most 1.5 inches, probably a tad shy of it.
Bislimi said on 17/Nov/22
Hey Rob. I measure 5’11 3/8 after being up for 10+ hours. What would my height percentile roughly be for young men in UK aged 18-25 and what term would you use to describe my stature in the country amongst young men?

Editor Rob
In the general population it's in that crossover zone between upper average and low end of tall, though amongst 20 year olds I'd go with more upper average range.
Progking185 said on 17/Nov/22
@Darksol64 i believe Rob said average shoe is about 1 inch or less, but yeah I think your solidly tall at either 6'1.75 or 6'2.5. 6'4 is end of regular tall and starts to look very tall in public. You probably look about 6'3 to most if your near 6'4 in those shoes.
Gian 181cm said on 17/Nov/22
@Jokey
You're practically my height, I'm late at night about 5'11 1/8, and you're 5'11. You're still growing, apparently, in a few months we'll be the same height xD.
There are few guys who claim 5'11 who have that height at the end of the night, usually 5'11 guys drop to 5'10.75 - 5'10 7/8 and at worst 179.3-4cm at the extreme low.
adrianposter said on 17/Nov/22
I see many guys over 6’4 that still have good face and body proportions, so I don’t know why people automatically assume that a 6’8 guy (for example) would look gangly or weird.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 17/Nov/22
How about adding Dermot Morgan from Father Ted, Rob. He looked 1.5 inches taller than 5'9 Ardol so I think 5'10.5 is a fair shout.
Gian 181cm said on 17/Nov/22
@Jdubbz
Exactly, these are subjective advantages. As a boxing and basketball fan, I thought your height would be good.
The truth is that when a person is very far from a height they end up having a very superficial opinion, so I would ignore it and not worry anymore.
@avi
Is this study you are referring to from 'The Royal Society'? As I understand it, the study claims to have some height correlation with some (and not all) types of cancer and is only one possible (unlikely) explanation.
There is research stating that the taller the person, the lower the chances of having diabetes, heart attack.
At the end of the day, whether you are short, medium or tall, the important thing is to have a healthy lifestyle.
Darksol64 said on 17/Nov/22
@ Jdubbz
I agree about even 6'4 being nearly out of normal tall range. I'm a 6'1-3/4 guy and when I wear a thick 2" shoe similar to the Hogan's Rob has listed (effectively putting me at 6'2.5 assuming the average person is wearing 1.25" shoe) I'm pretty much top of the crowd around here. Statistically 1-20 guys should be that height but it's more like 1 in 50 or less guys it seems, young or old.
And by the way man all these people telling you 6'6 can't have good proportions or look good (LMAO) I highly suggest going on YT and type in "7 Ft Vlogs" A channel named BigBeauBrown will show up. I recommend the video "life of a 7 ft guy through gopro" Should be one of the first to show up. It's a dude that claims to be 7 ft (might be 6-10 or 6-11 in reality, but still giant territory) and he has AMAZING body proportions. an easy 8/10 face if not 9/10. No ganglyness, no long neck, funky face, etc. He's so lucky to have that body it's not even funny. He looks like a normal person on a larger scale.
Just because people of extreme height can look like crap doesn't mean they will or the height itself is bad. It's just genetics.
Kellan said on 17/Nov/22
@Avi
I don't get that either. Even most "ideal height for men" surveys typically average between 6'0" and 6'2"
AB-177CM said on 17/Nov/22
@Jokey
You are tall for a sardinian guy, despite that you are near 181 in the mid of the day...
adrianjacobs said on 17/Nov/22
@Emil
I live in an area called Östermalm. It doesn't matter though where you live in Sweden. Would you call a guy who is 6'3-6'4 "enormous" in America? They are about as much above average as a 182cm woman in Sweden.
Btw, I visited Copenhagen this summer and I noticed that the average was indeed noticeably lower than in Sweden.
@Progking185
Yeah I think I have a pretty similar height and eye level as you. I have even been measured at the full 6'1 by doctors, and yet I'm definitely not sure my eye level reaches 5'7.5.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 17/Nov/22
Jdubbz said on 16/Nov/22
Yes of course, this is height of my brother. He's closer to 6'5", maybe full 6'5". It's def very tall. I mean even being about 6'2" you would feel towering many young and adult guys, but when you noticeable taller than me on good 3inches ...
I think any difference over ~2inches is when someone looks TALL in your eyes and you can feel it.
Emil said on 17/Nov/22
adrianjacobs said on 17/Oct/22
@dreus23 182cm is at the very most "very tall" for a woman in Sweden, but it's not even close to enormous. You probably don't know how 182cm looks if you think that's "enormous". I wouldn't even call 6'1 enormous for a woman in Stockholm either. I see probably 2 or 3 out of 30 women that height or taller.
Where in Stockholm do you live, Adrian? A rich area or something?
I see 6'1-6'2 women (sometimes 6'3) in Copenhagen as well but I wouldn't say it's 3 out of 30. More like 3 out of 300. But of course it doesn't have to be the same in your case
c-mo superduperultramegastrong 5'9 range said on 17/Nov/22
what is a normal low and what is not ? what would be being awake for 12-13 hours and not having lied down at all during those 12-13 hours but sit a lot but also having done some weight training and walked to the supermarket and back (not that close to home) be ? would you fall a little below the "normal" low in these conditions ?
mnecro2602 said on 16/Nov/22
@Rob
How much height do you think these shoes give?
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Editor Rob
At first glance would have thought no more than 1 inch...but then looking at the front of the mountain boot, there may well be a thicker sole inside it. I'd still have went with 1-1.1
Poster said on 16/Nov/22
@Jackie Lee: You can believe what you want. The experts know much more than you do. You can claim that dwarfism starts at one inch, if you like. I support your freedom of speech to be clueless and wrong.
Jdubbz said on 16/Nov/22
@Jackie Lee:
Some people seem to conflate having dwarfism/gigantism with being extremely short or extremely tall. In reality, while those conditions can lead to extreme stature on either end of the bell curve, that doesn't mean that you can assign a height cutoff for a disease. Especially cutoffs that by and large don't apply to actual dwarves. Like you said, most people who suffer from dwarfism are WELL under 4'10 or even 4'8. That never made much sense to me either.
Jdubbz said on 16/Nov/22
@Gian 181cm:
Yeah 6'6 can be a good height, but it's fine for people to disagree. What's not fine is constantly harping about how much a certain height sucks without having any experience being that height. That's the problem with Avi. I can't even imagine the audacity it takes to do that.
Jdubbz said on 16/Nov/22
@Avi:
I am the insecure one? Lol, that's rich coming from you. In my experience, people who insult other people's heights as often as you do are deeply dissatisfied with their own. You admit you want to be taller, so that definitely tracks. No one else here aside from 1 or 2 other posters randomly brings up why being very tall sucks. Even those posters don't do it as consistently as you do. In all honesty, you may be one of the most insecure posters here. You may disguise your posts as spreading awareness about health issues, but it's incredibly obvious what your actual motive is.
Why would I be insecure about my height? I tower over pretty much everyone I come across. I have a proportional build and a wide frame, so I don't look lanky at all. My height has been nothing but a blessing in my life. Calling out a guy who is repeatedly attempting to belittle very tall heights (you) isn't synonymous with being insecure. Nice try though :)
"Believe you were not the reason as much as you may wish to think so ;)"
I don't even know what you're saying here. I don't give a crap if I'm the reason you left or came back...you're just some stranger who means nothing to me. I just notice that whenever you sporadically show up, you just so happen to post about how being very tall sucks. It is extremely annoying, so yes, I will continue to call you out each and every time you do this. I barely even post on CH these days. Probably less frequently than you do.
"Also that is Assumption it was directed at you. Maybe it was or maybe it wasn't."
Lol, don't be disingenuous, you know exactly what you're doing. How many other 6'5+ posters are here who have gotten into arguments with you before? If you want to instigate an argument, that's a ok with me. Let's be honest, CH is boring without the occasional argument. I honestly don't mind it :)
"I had a 6'2-6'2.5 friend and even he had his fair share of issues.
Obviously being an extreme height such as yourself is really the only way to experience the challenges firsthand..."
Fair share of issues at 6'2? Either your friend has some genetic issues, or he's just complaining for the sake of complaining. 6'2 is a very comfortable height in any western country. Tell your friend to man up and stop being a pansy.
Please tell me what "challenges" I face at my "extreme height"? I buy pants online and don't fit in some cars. I may have to occasionally duck under doorframes. Wow, what horrible challenges. The truth is that I'm extremely comfortable at my height. Taking care of your body and staying at a healthy weight along with taking the proper supplements can prevent back/joint issues even at very tall heights.
Honestly, I would bet that I experience fewer back and joint issues than you do. But please...go on about how my height is way too tall and so horrible. I've been your height before (albeit when I was a 13 or 14 year old kid), and I would personally never want to trade places with you. That's the difference between you and me. You speak as if you have some kind authority on what it's like to be tall or very tall when you really have no idea. I have been your height before but you have never been mine.
Jdubbz said on 16/Nov/22
@Poster:
I think the issue with assigning height cutoffs for dwarfism is that extremely short stature doesn't always correlate with the pathophysiology associated with dwarfism. I've seem plenty of 4'8 and 4'7 women throughout my life who were perfectly normal, just extremely short. Same thing with 5'0-1 men. Most actual dwarfs (suffering from achondroplasia or similar conditions) are significantly shorter than that. It's like how some people think that anyone above 7' has gigantism, which is of course ridiculous

Editor Rob
There are several countries in which the female average is 4ft 10.5-11, which by definition would place a fairly substantial proportion of the population into that category.
Bobby said on 16/Nov/22
@Jackie Lee
Actually, according to Mayo Clinic, official dwarf height begins at an adult stature of 4'10/147 cm or less.
It may be difficult to fathom, but the diagnosis is very real.
Click Here Progking185 said on 16/Nov/22
@adrian Jacob's yeah I believe for 6'0-6'1 the average is about that. Though my eye level seems to be like 5.25 inches. Evening I measure around 6'0.5 but my eye level is 5'7.25-5'7.5. I think anything under mine is getting rare for guys. 6+ inch eye level would mean a huge forehead.