General Height - Page 3

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 14/May/25
5'8-5'11 I meant

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 14/May/25
@ Gianni 5'7

I'm 5'9.5 in the evening and I feel pretty much bang on average in England. I feel 5'7 is start of short and 6'0 is the start of tal but most people I see are 5'8-5'12 range.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 14/May/25
Mike190 said on 12/May/25

"If you want to discuss the optimal height for dating, however, it is a completely different story. The recent studies that I've read all point to the fact that most women in the west want very very tall men: with an optimal range of 195-200cm or specifically 6'6" (198cm) being the most desirable height. The "acceptable" range where more than 50% of women would still date you based off your height alone ranges from 6'0-6'11 in the USA and 185cm-210cm in Europe. I know, it's insane how high the standards are."


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sorry but thats BS . i am 39 years old and am 176-177cm (most people guess my height to be around 180cm btw) and have never ever struggled to get attention from women since i was a teenager . getting checked out , getting phone numbers , getting dates etc. . zero problems. and in my experience as i said in my post below when you hit a solid 5'8 it is mostly about facial attractiveness (facial attractiveness is the most important anyway ) and body frame like proportions and wide shoulders etc. from there and you can not blame your height anymore if you have trouble attracting women . even if being taller than solid 5'8 would be better .

and most dudes i have known in my life who are sucessful with women have been between 5'9 and 6'1 AND most guys who i have seen and known who have good facial aesthetics and good body proportions are also around 5'8 / 5'8 to 6'0 . in my experience / observation many men taller than around 6'0 - 6'1 have either bad body proportions or bad facial harmony etc. . i hope this doesnt offend anyone but thats what i have observed . if you take 500 men between 5'9 and 6'0 and compare them to 500 men who are 6'2 - 6'5 for example you will find way more attractive looking guys in the 5'9 - 6'0 range . i am sure about it . the best looking male celebrities are also between 5'9 and 6'1 with especially around 5'11 having many attractive ones . just to name a few : George Clooney , Orlando Bloom , Leonardo Dicaprio , Brad Pitt , Jamie Dornan , Henry Cavill etc. etc. etc.

the study you are talking about is nonsense . most women ideally if they could choose the height of their men would choose a man who is between 5'11 and 6'2 with a good amount of women also liking 6'3 - 6'5 but the most attractive range for women is 180 - 188cm . but obviously with good proportions and good face . they would rather take a good looking 175cm for example than an unattractive 188cm . and many women will also like the heights of 5'8 - 5'10 especially 5'10 . after 5'8 it is mostly about face and frame as i said

sure when you are 6'5 and above there will be also many women who will like that especially women with a height fetish . but it is not ideal . especially above 6'8 is more niche appeal

and you must also not forget height inflation . when women see a solid 6'1 dude many of them will think he is 6'3 for example .

Rajiv india said on 14/May/25
Hi rob, i thought nz cricekter kane willaismon is 5'8.5". But looks 5'10" for the last 3 years.he is 34 btw.he is the second cricketer after steyn who gained height after growth plate clouser. I am shocked

Sam83 said on 13/May/25
Hi everyone, I just wondered if anyone had measured anyone or themselves with any super high heels, or compared next to each other for comparison? It would be interesting to know how many people have suddenly become shorter than someone they know, once heels are used!
I’m 5’11 and my sister is 5’7.5. She has ordered these super high heels after I said she could never be taller than me, so it’s going to be interesting when she wears these out!l next time! Click Here

Chris Paul said on 13/May/25
Hey Rob,
How tall does Volkov look with 6'4 range Aspinall Click Here

fullduchess23 said on 13/May/25
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Hi Rob, I wanted to know how tall the player with the hairband is, who I believe is standing slightly on tiptoe. Compared to Van Dijk, who on your site is listed as 6 ft 4 1/2, how tall do you think he is just by looking?

fullduchess23 said on 13/May/25
hi Big Rob
what is the height outside the bed you expect from a 6ft 3/4 guy on this site? obviously not forcing the posture, standing normal.

thanks

sofar said on 13/May/25
i'm 188-188.3cm out of bed
wonder at what figure i would be listed at

Mike190 said on 12/May/25
Continuing on with the ideal height discussion, the vast majority of male models are listed at 183-192cm. Accounting for the outliers who inflate or deflate their heights to fit the standards the absolute max range for legit barefoot afternoon height in high fashion is 180-195cm. Generally those under 185cm and over 191cm are already considered sub-optimal. This is why you see so many 6ft models (such as O'Pry) listed at 6'1", and 6ft4 models (such as Gao) listed at 6'2.5" or 6'3". The sweetspot is exactly 186cm-188cm with 6'2" (187.96cm) being widely considered the prototypical model height.

Now why would male model heights have anything to do with the ideal height for general life? Model agencies design their clothes to fit men who are in the 6'1-3" range for a good reason: they have the best aesthetic look. Men in this range are certainly tall, but not gawky awkward tall. 6ft1-3 men also generally have an inseam of no more than 34", and shoe size no more than 13US which makes shopping very convenient.

If you want to discuss the optimal height for dating, however, it is a completely different story. The recent studies that I've read all point to the fact that most women in the west want very very tall men: with an optimal range of 195-200cm or specifically 6'6" (198cm) being the most desirable height. The "acceptable" range where more than 50% of women would still date you based off your height alone ranges from 6'0-6'11 in the USA and 185cm-210cm in Europe. I know, it's insane how high the standards are.

How much is this due to selective bias and height inflation (particularily in USA where claiming 2 inches above your actual height seems to be the norm)? It's hard to say. But insisting that the ideal male height is sub 180cm is ridiculous to me given all this information, and even under 185cm is hard to argue unless you have plans on becoming a gymnast or jockey.

All factor considered I believe 6ft1-5 (185-195cm) is the optimal range for a man in 2025 in the western world. Which height is optimal for you in that range depends on your values in life.

aaronj00 said on 12/May/25
Hey Rob, I measure at 176cm at night and 178cm in the morning. I currently weigh 98kg and I'm planning on losing some weight. If I lose about 20kg, do you think it's possible that I can have a slightly higher height at night time (maybe 176.5cm) if I lose some weight given that there may be less pressure on my body?

Caleb 5'10.25"/178.7cm said on 12/May/25
@Editor Rob
Don't think she's over 6'10 though right?

MD said on 12/May/25
Really quite interested to know how tall actor Danny Ramirez is.

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The Top Gun Maverick cast was quite above average, but I'm not sure if the 5'9" are quite right.

Gianni 5' 7 said on 12/May/25
Hi Rob,

The vast majority of people would define short a guy who's 5ft6 flat (let's say between 167 and 168 cm). At the same time, I know several guys who're around 172-173 cm barefeet and it's pretty rare for them to be called "short",at least here in Italy. That being said, do you think that a guy who's in the middle between those marks (170 cm on the nose, afternoon height) has a greater chance to be viewed as short or average?

Caleb 5'10.25" (178.7cm) said on 11/May/25
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How tall does she look in each of the videos?

Vick said on 11/May/25
Hi Rob,
I’m been measuring my height over the day, on lazy days I can hold 6’ 5 hours, on work days I’m hitting 511.75 but I also work and carry things and walks down stairs in a building. What do you think qualified as a legite 6’? Does it need to be 6’ at a evening or low or can 5 hours still count?

Mike190 said on 11/May/25
Rob do you think it would be possible to gain 1cm in height through stretching and core strengthening exercises in a person that is completely untrained with average posture to begin with?

grizz said on 11/May/25
I'm back! Thanks,Rob!
Lots changed with my height perspective and my actual height.
I used to be 182-183 cm. Went to an MRI scan of vertebrae and several physical therapies later, I gained 2cms due to extremely weak back muscles that couldn't handle the burden (ironically, I thought I was relatively strong).
With regular morning stretches I'm maintaining- 186.5 cm straight out of bed, 184.2 at my absolute worst. What is more, turns out one leg is shorter than the other by a cm. Theoretically, with some brave experts willing to extend the shorter leg I might add another cm.

Now with improved posture I can stand tall and boy, the difference is HUGE.
I used to think I was @ lower average walking down the streets in Croatia (I was prob 178-180 while walking due to weak muscles). Now I can say that I'm comfortably average and 95% of women are shorter or as tall as I am.

My perfect height?
I agree with Kevin's arguments, although I think his current height is my perfect height already.
1) you can still be a perfectly fine gymnast at that height
2)this is the last last height for someone to fit inside and drive a F1 car (my dream)

Gerald S said on 11/May/25
Rob, I can often pass for near 5’11” with others as I wear orthotics, I practice better than average posture, and yes I do indeed claim 5’10”. So would you probably give me 5’10” on here?

Jake: 1.84 m - 1.85 m said on 11/May/25
Still think a solid 182 cm tends to be the figure when one starts to appear tallish entering tall zone. A bit below that mark = still in the above average range.

fullduchess23 said on 11/May/25
rob 2 hours and a little more after waking up, wearing a pair of fairly used classic vans (8 months of use) I measure (using good posture) about 6 ft 1 1/2, overall do you still think that 6 ft 3/4 is good for me or do you think that 6 ft 1/2 is better, obviously I am in this range not more I am sure, you advised me 6 ft 3/4 several times but here I wanted to let you know with the shoes how much I measure.

thanks

Gerald S said on 11/May/25
Rob, at the start of the day, I measure 179.0cm barefoot and at the end of the day I measure 177.0cm barefoot. What club would you put me in if I was a celeb on here?

Gianni 5' 7 said on 11/May/25
There's no way that the average height of the male population in France is 180 cm. Not even close. I've worked in France for a year and travelled across the country several times. I'd say 176 cm at most, maybe just slightly more that here in Italy.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 10/May/25
@Kevin

hey bro . i would say the minimum height that is arguably / possibly the bottom end of what is in the ideal range is 178cm evening / low . below that is 100% not "ideal" anymore . i mean i am around 176cm in the evening (i dip a little bit below 176 at the very end of the day after 12-13+ hours unless i am at home the whole day ) and i can definitely say that my height is pretty good and i am not unhappy . but it is not ideal for sure . i wish i was at least 2-3cm taller and ideally 5-8cm taller

178 evening would be bare minimum for that but even 178 might be a little bit too low too . so rather around 179-180 tbh . so yeah i kinda agree with you

as i said my personal ideal range is 179 - 184 range evening height . possibly 185 - 186 too if the proportions are good . imo even though 187cm and above are still really good heights it is "too long" vertically to be ideal anymore . hard to explain what i mean but i think above 185/186 is not ideal anymore because it looks too stretched virtually lol . the glass is already full at a weak 6'1

the problem with the lower ends of my ideal range is that you will look and feel short when very tall men are around . like lets say you are surrounded by a couple of dudes who are all around 190 - 199cm . you will feel a bit short in such situations. you dont have that problem at 184 185 . for a 184-185 guy to feel or look short there has to be men around who are minimum 198+ which are very rare heights .therefore i would say IF body proportions are good and IF facial and skull proportions are good then 184-185cm evening height is the very best height to be for a man . there is a user here who is a personal trainer who says the same . he has trained many dudes of all kinds of heights and he also says around 184 is perfect and and also looks the best

so again to summarize it : mesomorphic body structure + good proportions + broad shoulders + good facial harmony and good skull shape + around 184cm height in the evening = the perfect height to be

and being lanky is not the only downside that tall heights often have mate. but i dont want to say anything more regarding this because i feel bad doing so . i dont feel any members here to feel bad or something

but anyway . just want to add this too : when it comes to attracting women i have observed and experienced myself that once you reach around 173cm evening height it comes down mostly to facial attractivness and body frame from there and you can not blame your lack of success on your height anymore .

183 cm traveller said on 10/May/25
I’ve travelled through Western and Central Europe. I now live in Romania, which is the only Eastern European country I’ve been to. I’d say the average male height in Europe is around 180–184 cm. In France, where I’m from, it’s about 180 cm. In Central Europe I visited Austria and the Czech Republic the average seems to be around 182 cm. In Romania, I’d estimate it at around 179 cm, maybe 178 cm at worst. I’ve never been to the Netherlands, but reports say the average is 183–184 cm, and I’d trust those numbers. Based on my observations, 190 cm is above average but still fairly common.

TL said on 10/May/25
Hi Rob how much height do we lose within 30 seconds of getting out of bed? 1-2mm?

fullduchess23 said on 10/May/25
rob I need your help, so, a friend of mine told me after 5 hours and a little more from waking up standing against the wall with an object you recommended on your channel on his head, it measures exactly 6 ft 0.63 in, he would like to know on your site how it would be inserted, thank you very much for your help rob, and maybe some advice on what height he should declare to people.

thanks

fullduchess23 said on 9/May/25
Rob my height after 17 and a half hours is 183.950 cm, I'm tired and I measured myself with relaxed shoulders and not tense.
between 183.5 cm, 184.2 cm, 184.8 cm, 185.4 cm, for how you reason which one do you tend to prefer

thanks

rlheight5'11 said on 9/May/25
@Rob
How do they know when to post? With all due respect, what is going on with the forum?

Gianni 5' 7 said on 9/May/25
Hi Rob,
As of today, would you still say that 170 cm and 180 cm barefeet are respectively the start of short and the start of tall in a country like UK?

TL said on 8/May/25
Hi Rob how much height would these give? Click Here

Kiers said on 8/May/25
@Jamss B

Welcome to the 172cm club. My 10pm low is 172 flat. I find its not a bad height, shorter than average but not tiny. Wouldnt say it has any downsides. When I was younger was a bit of a hang up but being 29 this September find theres more important things in life.

fullduchess23 said on 8/May/25
Rob do you agree that Calafiori is 188 cm?

Jamss B said on 8/May/25
Rob would you say 172cm is a bad height for a guy?

Chris Paul said on 7/May/25
Hey Rob,
How tall does this guy look with Demetrius Johnson
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Grayloth said on 7/May/25
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In Scandinavia and Netherlands the average height reached a plateue already in the early 1990s. Dutch conscripts measured 181.2 cm back then. You grow another half a cm after the year of 18 and if you take into account ethnic dutch there is another half a cm. Dutch men aren’t taller than 182 cm.

Chris Paul said on 7/May/25
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Hey Rob what would you say is the difference between these two guys

Mike190 said on 6/May/25
@fullduchess23

You're supposed to stand at your tallest when you measure yourself. Refusing to claim your measurement with good posture is like saying your bench press PR isn't legit because you were well rested beforehand and wouldn't be capable of matching it after a long day of physical work.

If you are 185.4cm in the evening you should claim 6ft 1 or 185cm worst case. Anything less than that is fallacious.

Mike190 said on 6/May/25
@Grayloth

For the general population, including older generations and immigrants yes 182-182cm is the average in the Netherlands. I'm talking about young ethnic Dutch men which are 183.8cm on average nationally and 185cm on average in the northern regions (Friesland, Groningen).

Yes it does seem that the Dutch reached a plateau in the 1980s, with evidence suggesting that the population born in 21st century is even slightly shorter, but this is not the case in the Balkans. Young men in the Montenegro are 183.3cm on average with the populations living along the Adriatic sea in Dalmatia being the tallest in the world. Makarska, Croatia has a mean height of 187.6cm (almost 6ft 2)!

I have been to both these regions and can say without a doubt that Dalmatia has taller men on average. I felt very average at my height and my Father did not stick out at all at 196cm like he would back home. There were 2 meter men on every corner, it was insane.

This is why I personally am not satisifed with my height and hope to grow an inch taller. Anything less than 190cm in these tallest countries is average at best. At 6ft 3 you can atleast call yourself above average in every country in the world.

Kevin said on 6/May/25
@c-mo

180cm is the lowest height I could see one arguing as being ideal. Male models are usually between 5'11-6'3 so it's in that range but barely. 6'1 is exactly in the middle of that range. I don't think lankiness is an issue until you're 6'2+. Have definitely seen a few 6'2 guys whose proportions looked off because they're too skinny.

I remember being 180cm when I was 16. I thought it was a pretty good height back then. Felt tallish. Never felt inadequate about it. But I like being 184cm more. Actually, if I could only choose between my current height (184cm) and 188cm I would choose to stay 184cm. To me it's a great height, nearly perfect.

fullduchess23 said on 6/May/25
c-mo 176-177cm

Hey man,

Just a quick note: if I’m standing absolutely straight—like, maxed out tension, back tight, neck long, everything stretched to the limit—I just about reach 185.4 cm. I’m brushing it. Barely.

It’s 7:54 PM right now, and I’ve been awake since 7 this morning. I haven’t done much physically today—nothing intense or tiring—so this is me at the end of a chill day, but fully upright. No tiptoes, no cheating. Just maximum effort posture.

That said, just so you know—in real life, I’m nowhere near that tense. Like, normally I’m way more relaxed, slouchy even. This was me in full-on statue mode. So don’t get used to it.

fullduchess23 said on 6/May/25
rob an opinion from you, do you think the heights 186 cm for szobozlai and 187 cm for yildiz are correct?
what do you think about adding these footballers to the football page, have a nice day

c-mo 176-177cm said on 6/May/25
@fullduchess23

LOL that is an EASY 185cm claim . not only that ...imo you SHOULD claim 185cm . but it is up to you to decide .

many men claim a height at least 1-2 inches higher than what they are sometimes even 3-4 inches .

and on celebheights members claim their height after being awake for 100000 hours , after having been very active and worked out for many hours having stressed their spine aggressively , maybe even being dehydrated , and maybe even not standing as straight as possible on top of it . because they think this will be "modest" and "honest" . just lol . such a nonsense ....

bro is 184.8cm after 6 hours being awake and thinks claiming 185cm is not okay . xD jfl

fullduchess23 said on 6/May/25
c-mo 176-177cm

I’m not sure, but after about 6 hours of being awake I’m around 184.8 cm. In the evening I rarely drop below 184 cm when standing straight.

Gav16 said on 5/May/25
Hello Rob,

I have measured myself at 6'1.3 morning height, 6'0 11/16 afternoon and just a smidge under 6'0.5 like 6'0.4 at my low.

Considering this was with a tape measure (using a can, back to wall) what's the range of what my real height could be? Could I claim 6'1 without being called out or is it a dishonest claim?

And assuming those are all accurate what might I get a listing at here? Thanks!

Grayloth said on 5/May/25
@Mike190

The dutch aren’t 184 cm. They are more 182 cms. They are similiar in height to the Scandinavians since they have roughly the same gene pool and living standards.
The Balkan heights I am also sceptical about. Ideal height from a golden ratio perspective is 6 feet. But you don’t want to be exactly optimum height, since you are standing with one ”feet” on each side of the ideal height so to speak. Instead, you want ro be close to that height so 181-182 cm is ideal and makes sense, and the Scandinavians and Dutch reached that average height already in the late 80s/early 90s.

Grayloth said on 5/May/25
@Rob
Arnie was never taller than 6’0.5”. He was close in height to Reg Park and Reg Park has stated himself he was 6 feet.
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That explains Arnolds ”height loss”. He just did the usual one inch add which is especially common in the US.

fullduchess23 said on 5/May/25
rob a question, if I am 6 ft 0.75 tall, but if I met Roger Federer 6 ft 1, in real life how would I see him? Do people notice the difference from the outside?


thanks rob

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 5/May/25
Could you also add Nathan fielder Rob? I think he looks like a weak 5'10 guy. Probably my height or 5'9.75 at most.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 5/May/25
@fullduchess23

it doesnt matter . you SHOULD stand as tall as possible without tiptoeing to measure your height anyway . and if you are 186.6cm a few minutes out of bed then claiming 184cm is nonsense if you ask me . but you do you . what is your height after being 2-3 hours awake ? i bet you are easily 185cm 3 hours out of bed . you should claim that

Caleb 178.8cm said on 4/May/25
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I'm posting this video here to show how much of an impact the height of the camera above the ground and the positions of your body and the tape measure have on how tall you look in comparison to a tape measure and height chart on camera.

At the beginning of the video, you can see a paper height chart with marks on it. The lowest mark on the chart is 5'3, the next mark above it is 5'4, the one after is 5'5, and the highest mark in the middle of the paper is 5'11. At timestamp 0:50, my feet were touching the wall and I appear over 5'11 in front of the height chart even though my real height was not much over 5'10 that moment. But at 0:25 in the video, I run a tape measure straight up from a spot on the floor that is the same distance away from the camera as my toes are, and on camera the top of my head looks lower than the 5'10 mark on the tape measure. Another thing you might notice is that I appear noticeably taller in front of the height chart at timestamp 0:25 than I do at timestamp 0:50. That was because I was closer to the camera (the backs of my feet were about 9 inches in front of the wall) at timestamp 0:25 than I was at timestamp 0:50 (which was when my feet were touching the wall). At timestamp 2:01, I measured my height on stadiometer as 5'10 1/8. I know you can't see the ground but trust me, this stadiometer measurement was legit and accurate. I recorded the video at 4:02PM so I was at my low height. The camera was about the same height from the ground as my navel.

After this attempt at trying to do the same things Nancy Mulkey did in her videos, I'm having a hard time believing Nancy is as tall as a full 6'9, let alone 6'10, comparing how tall I look on my video vs. how tall she looks on hers. Another thing a friend of mine on discord told me was that she was standing on a carpet behind her which looked higher than the floor in front of her, which may have given her height.

Mike190 said on 4/May/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

Thanks. I'm not quite there (yet), as I chose this name as a positive affirmation/manifestation. I'm around 189.5cm first thing, 187.5cm at night, and just over 187cm at my extreme low. I'm in my early 20s, so hoping I can grow at least one more 1cm, ideally 2-3cm. I have grown 4cm after turning 18, so I think I'm somewhat of a late bloomer. In real life, I claim 6ft 2 (188cm).

I totally agree with what you said about proportions, though. My father in his prime was 196cm and while his height certainly gave him many advantages in life, he is very lanky and was regularly teased for being a too tall "stringbean" throughout his teen years and early adulthood. I myself suffer lankiness but to a lesser degree, thankfully. I would happily be 183-185cm if it meant I had ideal proportions, but I wouldn't go any lower than that.

Gamer Ak said on 4/May/25
Rob please add streamers like Kai Cenat , Duke Dennis , Adin Ross, XQC, and Sneako.

fullduchess23 said on 4/May/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

I measure 186.7 cm with a forced and stretched posture, basically my absolute maximum height after a long sleep. That’s why I’m unsure whether to say 184 cm or 185 cm

Kevin said on 4/May/25
@fullduchess23

You're a weak 6'1 but I think you can safely claim 185cm or 6'1 when talking to people. I'm guessing you only go down to 6'0.5 at an extreme low. I wouldn't claim an extreme low height.

fullduchess23 said on 4/May/25
rob, a guy who in the morning out of bed standing very straight and tense his peak is 6ft 1 ½, on your site how would it be placed?

c-mo 176-177cm said on 4/May/25
@fullduchess23

why would you claim 184cm when you are 186.6cm in the morning ? you should claim at least 185cm IMO


@Kevin yeah i would probably take 184-185cm (weak 6'1) too if i could keep my current proportions and face / head aesthetics . even though 180cm is my favorite height . because 184-185 holds itself better when standing next to dudes up until 197-198cm . but for 6'1 to be perfect good body proportions and face / skull aesthetics are necessary . and in my experience many men above 6'0 simply dont have that (again no offense to anyone)


@Mike190 looking at your username it seems that you are around your ideal height :) thats good bro . and yes 6'3 is a very good height if you can pull it off

fullduchess23 said on 4/May/25
Hi Rob, it's 12:27 at lunchtime, I've been awake for 7 minutes. I measured myself against the wall with an object on my head and got 186.6 cm. I used my maximum possible posture (almost unnatural). Based on this, would you personally list me as 6 ft 3/4 or 6 ft 1/2? And when talking to people, should I say 184 cm or 185 cm?

Thanks, Rob!

chadmichaels said on 3/May/25
Hello Rob, How much height do you think these shoes actually give?

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Kevin said on 3/May/25
I recently measured my tallest morning height ever at age 31. 6'1.125" first thing out of bed. I've measured it several times when I get 8 hours of sleep. In my 20s I would've never measured more than 6'1 flat out of bed. I've also been taking 10,000 IUs of vitamin D3 and 200mcg Vitamin K2 MK7 everyday since last year. Is it possible that I've increased my bone mass by taking these supplements, hence the slight height gain? Just found it interesting that I've apparently managed to gain height in my early 30s, albeit millimeters.

@c-mo

I'm in the US. A rock solid 6'1 at night would be my ideal. It's tall, but not so tall that it becomes a defining feature or a point of conversation. A 6'1 guy can still blend into a crowd easily enough. A 6'1 guy will also be taller than basically 100% of women anywhere they go barring a few rare outliers. Unless you want to be an NBA player, there are no downsides to being 6'1 in everyday life.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 3/May/25
I think Mark Heap deserves an add Rob. Gets listed at and looks 6 foot. He may even be 6'0.25 but no more than that.

Kiers said on 3/May/25
Hey Rob

If at 12pm I clock in at around 172.6cm and by 10pm I'm down to a low of 172cm flat would you consider that a more weaker 5'8 guy ?

Mike190 said on 2/May/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

My ideal height for a man would be 6 ft 3, specifically 191.5cm first thing and 189.5cm before bed.

Reasons:
-Maximum height to be a male model
-Maximum height to be an astronaut and glider pilot
-Single and twin mattresses are exactly 75 inches long
-You will be considered tall even in the tallest countries since you are 190cm
-People will universally recognise your height as tall, but will not comment on it directly like they would with a 6ft 4 and above guy
-It is an extremely athletic and well-rounded height given that most sports have an average male height of 6ft1-3 such as NFL, NHL, MLB, tennis, etc and even NBA point guards are 6'2.5" on average
-Public transport, furniture and clothing are generally only designed to accommodate up to the 95th-97.5th percentile in height (6 ft 2- 3)
-Rollercoasters generally have a maximum height of 195cm (in shoes), and you will be comfortably under that mark in normal footwear
-Due to height inflation (particularly in North America), most people in real life think a barefoot 6ft 3 guy is 6ft 4-5
-You can claim very strong 6'2, 6'3, or 6'4 in shoes depending on the situation


This is for countries where the average male born in 2000 is 5ft 10.5 / 179cm (Australia, Canada, Ireland). If I lived in the taller European countries like the Netherlands and Montenegro, where the average is 6ft 0.5 / 184cm and almost up to 6ft 2 in the tallest regions, I'd want to be 6ft 5-6. The same applies to the shorter countries such as Timor-Leste (average height of 5ft 3 / 160cm), where I'd only want to be 5ft 8-9, assuming I never had plans to leave the country.

5'8 Cowboy said on 2/May/25
Rob, I know I already commented earlier so sorry for asking another question, but if I'm 16 and 5'8, and my Mom and Dad were 5'3 and 5'9 at their prime, do you think I have a good chance to reach my Dad's peak height or do you think I might stop a bit short of it? Thanks Rob

08 said on 2/May/25
For me, I think height plays a factor, but probably not a big one. For short people, maximizing every aspect of your life and not worrying about your height can be a substitue for lacking height.

08 said on 2/May/25
Rob, do you believe in the notion that taller people in general have a more successful life (dating, career,etc) than someone whos short? Ive been watching a channel called LiveLifeTaller. They do leg lengthening surgery on people, and a majority of their clients say that their rationale is that they want to have more success in dating and in their career.

A link to a video on their channel
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Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 2/May/25
Cruise has held steady through his 50’s and 60’s. I know all the stunt work he’s done and injuries he’s sustained but I don’t see a noticeable difference from 20-30 years ago…..

Bo Chow said on 2/May/25
Hi Rob! I wake up after 9 or so hours of sleep at 181.9 cm in the morning, what is the most honest/accurate/truthful measurement I should claim as my “actual height”?

Thanks!

08 said on 1/May/25
Rob, if given the opportunity, which celebrity would you want to have measured in person?

c-mo 176-177cm said on 1/May/25
why is the average male celeb height around 180cm ? why that high ?

Rajiv india said on 1/May/25
@rob paul,is it possible to grow taller at the age 40? Cricketer dale steyn looks 6.1 these days and he used to look 6 foot flat.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 1/May/25
it is time to raise up the activity of the site again since comments get approved again :)

i have a question @everyone . i have asked similar questions several times in the past already but cant hurt to talk about it again . what height range do you guys and gals think is the best to be ?

in my opinion it is 180 - 186cm . lets say 179 - 185cm at night more or less . however this is presumed that body and face / height proportions are good . many men who are above 180 especially above 183 have already poor body proportions and also poor facial features / head proportions . and the likelyhood of it increases with each centimeter more and more after 185 . no offense to anybody but that is what i have observed in real life . i would rather be a well proportioned and harmonic looking 175cm than a poor proportioned 185cm with not so good facial features and skull shape

and around 180cm looks best from an aesthetic point of view in my experience but there is a problem with this height . even though it is not short at all and even a little tallish and a little above average it will look short next to very tall men . it will look a bit dwarfed next to men who are 192-193cm and will definitely looked dwarfed by men who are 195 and above. you dont have this "problem" at the higher ends of my ideal range (184 - 186) because for a 185cm man to look short you need to put him next to men who are 198 - 200cm+ or so which is a very rare height . i know that heights above 190 are not that common but still there will be situations where such really tall men are around and in those situations 180cm will look short

nevertheless i do think 179 - 180cm at night are still ideal heights

oh and by the way if you wonder how i feel at my own height at around 176cm evening . it is definitely a good height and i am happy . but i would have liked to be a few centimeters taller ideally

what is your ideal range ?

adrianposter said on 30/Apr/25
Hey Rob,

I notice that when I’m standing, I subconsciously tend to lock my knees and clench my glutes in and I cannot really stand normally. How much height will that add to my measurement?

Drew b said on 30/Apr/25
If I measure 183.8 cm in the morning but stand 182.5 cm at my evening low what height would I be listed on here?

fullduchess23 said on 30/Apr/25
Hi Rob, I measured myself around 2:40–2:55 PM using a tennis ball tube. I’d been awake since 7 AM after 6.5 hours of sleep. Standing naturally (not too relaxed or forced), I measured about 184.2–184.5 cm. If I force my posture, I get close to 184.8–184.9 cm.

If I were a celebrity, what height would you list me at? And what should I say to friends who ask how tall I am? Are there any celebrities you think measure similarly to me?

thanks rob

Celebheights 6'1.5" said on 30/Apr/25
“ fullduchess23 said on 28/Apr/25
Hi Rob, nadal, freddy prinze jr, ryan gosling, how tall do you think they get up in the morning if they go straight under a stadiometer?”

I would estimate that Rafael Nadal wakes up at around 185-185.1 CM, and he falls asleep somewhere around 183-183.1 CM. Freddie Prinze Jr. likely wakes up at around 6’1”, or even a fraction above it. Ryan Gosling probably measures at just under 6’1” out of bed.

I thought that Rafael Nadal was only around 6’0”, yet he didn’t appear to be that much shorter in comparison to Stephen Curry in a Subway commercial.

Editor Rob said on 30/Apr/25
Here's a graph showing how the Average User Guess differs between my guess.
This is for all celebrities with at least 10 votes (about 7000 celebs have that).

Click Here

So in essence, the public average guess has a slight bias towards underestimating compared to my own estimate, but it's really only a small bias.

Soloman182 said on 29/Apr/25
@Mask No I haven’t because it’s not common at all I can’t tell you the last time I even saw a 5 Ft 11 let alone 5 ft 10 woman.

Com said on 29/Apr/25
Rob, what is the ratio of men over 6ft versus under 6ft on CelebHeights?

JGN said on 29/Apr/25
Rob, how tall would you say the kicker here looks if Dan Campbell is 6ft5?

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TL said on 29/Apr/25
Hi Rob is it possible to shrink 3cm or more during a night shift which mainly consists of standing and bending?

Caleb 178.8cm said on 29/Apr/25
Wow, so the standard deviation of the males is over an inch higher than that of the females. That's a big difference. But I'm not all that surprised honestly since there are a lot more females who are average height (5ft5 - 5ft6) than males who are average height (5ft10 - 5ft11) on this website. There are more males who are 6ft5 than females who are 5ft11 as well.

About the Nancy Mulkey Instagram video, I thought she was under 6'10 but cleared 6'9 there. Being in front of the tape measure makes you look taller against the tape measure than your true height.

fullduchess23 said on 29/Apr/25
rob I get up at 7 to go to school, I come back home around 2 pm, is it okay if I measure myself at that time or should I measure myself in the evening at my minimum after a day of training?
anyway I thank you for your advice to measure me on the wall around the house

5'8 Cowboy said on 29/Apr/25
Rob, I just measured myself throughout the day. I get up around 5'8 and 5/8 to 3/4, then after a long day of school with a heavy bag on my back, I still hold around 5'7 and 7/8, do you think that I could confidently claim 5'8? Thanks Rob, Jack

c-mo 176-177cm said on 29/Apr/25
@fullduchess23

why dont you just measure yourself ?

Caleb 178.8cm said on 28/Apr/25
As of today, what are the average male and female celebrity heights and what are the standard deviations (in cm) of the height of the male and female celebrity populations, if they can be calculated?

I'd prefer the calculations to count the trans-female celebrities as male celebrities and the trans-male celebrities as female celebrities, but I know that because there are probably only less than 15 trans celebrities in total on the site it probably wouldn't hurt if you didn't take this into account.

The male celebrity population will definitely have a higher standard deviation than the female celebrity population. Thanks in advance.

Caleb 178.8cm said on 28/Apr/25
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How tall does Nancy Mulkey look from watching these videos? Maybe 204cm or a tad over 6'8 in the YouTube one? The YouTube video was filmed at 7:09PM and I'm not sure what time of day the Instagram video was filmed.

Taweret said on 28/Apr/25
Hi rob how tall do you think this nz actor is on the left is famous home and away actor on the right is 188 cm?

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Matt Shannon said on 28/Apr/25
Hey Rob can you add YouTuber Angry grandpa? In the videos from 2010-2017 he was 60-67 I believe he was probably around 5’10 around then but his peak height I would guess be maybe around 5’10.5.

fullduchess23 said on 28/Apr/25
Hi Rob, nadal, freddy prinze jr, ryan gosling, how tall do you think they get up in the morning if they go straight under a stadiometer?

Heightologist 10 said on 27/Apr/25
@Rob
Ah I have watched that video. However I am pretty strict on the “past 21” requirement and researching all of the celebrities on the video, about all of their growth spurts ended before 21. Will Poulter was the closest to qualify but he stopped growing at 21 not after. All the documented famous growth spurts I’ve read seem to all stop by 21 max.

I have found another past 21 qualifier ( Alexandre Pato ) but it seems very rare to even put a quarter of an inch past 21 which would qualify for the list. Growth past 21 seems to around the top 0.1% range ( 1 in 1000). But yea with doing my research it seems that medically natural growth at 22-25 is very rare, with cases like Macchio being close to 1 in a million.

fullduchess23 said on 27/Apr/25
Rob, I’ve always told everyone that I’m 183 cm tall, but everyone keeps saying, “No way, you must be taller.”
Many people perceive me as being around 188–190 cm, maybe because I'm slim and have long limbs.
Yesterday morning, after waking up and doing my usual routine, about 10 minutes later I tried standing under a doorway that is exactly 185 cm tall, but I couldn’t fit — I was taller.
Then I moved to another doorway that measures exactly 187 cm, and there I fit much better — I could even fit one finger (my index finger) between the top of my head and the doorframe.

I would like to understand: if I were a celebrity or someone important, how would I be listed on your site?
Please, I really need help. I honestly don’t know what to tell people.
I want to stay humble, because that's just who I am. Please help me.

TL said on 27/Apr/25
Hi Rob is it possible to have a distance of over 5cm from hairline to top of the head?

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 27/Apr/25
I swear I see more 5'10-5'11 women than I do 6'3-6'4 guys but statistically they should be the same. Anyone else noticed this?

Heightologist 10 said on 26/Apr/25
I meant Devean George not Devean Jordan, sorry for the typo

Heightologist 10 said on 26/Apr/25
Hello Rob, I’ve been compiling a list for documented cases of height growth past the age of 21 using famous athletes/celebrities/etc. I have compiled it on a wiki page.

So far I have Anthony Davis, Ralph Macchio, Jordan Barrett, Clint Eastwood, Dennis Rodman, Evander Holyfield, Patrick Fugit, Lando Norris, Devean Jordan & Turkoglu. I was wondering if you are aware of any others who could qualify for this list?

Soloman182 said on 26/Apr/25
CelebHeights has changed a lot over the years I remember when big Lewis was hardly 5’9, I imagine he is about 6’4 currently give or take. So many characters over the years come and go.

Soloman182 said on 26/Apr/25
This is cool that Rob turned comments back on!

Caleb 178.8cm said on 26/Apr/25
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How tall would you say this woman was if I'm 178.5-179cm 4 hours after waking up? I thought she was 6'2 when I encountered her and she told me she was 6'3, but looking at this photo now I think she's under 6'2. She has a high eye level. Also, you may notice we were both looking up at the camera; that's because the person who took the photo was a very tall man (he looked about 4 inches taller than the woman and he told me he was 6'7)

Gianni 5' 7 said on 26/Apr/25
Hi Rob,
There are many pictures of Inter player Dimarco near 5ft8ish Lautaro Martinez and 5ft7ish Barella. I think he's shorter than both of them but I'd like to know your guess. Thank you very much

Gianni 5' 7 said on 26/Apr/25
Hi Rob,
I've been wondering about the height of italian singer Fedez for years. He claims 174 cm, but he's clearly shorter than his former wife Chiara Ferragni. Also, there are plenty of pictures of him near his friend Charles Leclerc and the height gap is noticeable. What do you think? Would you say he's in 5 ft 7 range?

Gianni 5' 7 said on 26/Apr/25
Hi Rob

Internazionale FC player Federico Dimarco Is listed 5 ft 9, but it seems to me he's waaay closer tò 5 ft 6... What do you think?

JF_127 said on 8/Dec/24
Rob, how much do you think I'll grow right now? Last year I was around 6'0.5 at my low, recently I've measured at 6'1.5, might I grow another half inch or so? Turned 17 in October, weigh around 132 lbs/60 kg, parents are 6'2 and 5'9 respectively.

chad michaels said on 7/Dec/24
Hello Rob, how much does you think these shoes give?
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Abdul-177 said on 7/Dec/24
I’ve been to Netherlands 2 times before, and I was a kid when I went there, but I remember that my fathers height was solid over there, he was around 6’0 tall, and he seemed kinda tall from far distance, but overall he did felt a bit above average , because he compared himself to the older generations.

Abdul-177 said on 7/Dec/24
Emil said on 4/Dec/24
@Pirate123

Not sure where you get your facts from, but the average height in Northern Germany is significantly above 5'9.5

And 5'10 in the NL? That's the average height in the UK and France lol.
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@Emil

I’ve been to Flensburg and kiel many times , trust me. I write and share my subjective experiences. At 177 cm I feel almost average. I guess the average height in north Germany is maybe 5’10 range

Matt99 said on 7/Dec/24
@Jonus I too had some growth, I reckon at 23-25 I put a bit more height. I went from (night) flat 5’9/5’9 1/8 to 5’9 3/8 - 5’9.5 (night). I began to exercise again at 23 by running and going to the gym x3 a week. Maybe it was improved posture or my last bit of growth I’m not entirely sure, but I’ve definitely put on height regardless!

Gamer Ak said on 6/Dec/24
Rob, is the measure app on my iPhone accurate for height check ? I am 6’1.5-6’2 and it mostly appears 187-188. What u think Rob ?

Vick said on 5/Dec/24
Hey Alex,

You and I are close in height (I’m little shorter), have you ever got down to 5’11.75 at a low? There are times I can retain 6’0, but I’m busy days and carrying a backup full of books, I’m consistently measuring 11.75.

185.5cmJeff said on 5/Dec/24
Hey it’s good to have you back @Jonus, and interesting to see that you have grown as well, like you I’m 27 and exactly the same height as you, my out of bed height is touching 6ft2 (187.5cm) I’ve noticed from the age of 22-27 I am now 0.5cm taller, it could be posture related on my end tbh with you, in most shoes I’m just shy of 6ft2.25

@Connor
Hi Connor it’s Jeff, I agree with you about the generations below us seeming to be taller but I am from the south of England and at 6ft1 still to me the average seems around 5ft9.25-5ft.75 I wouldn’t go any higher or any lower with 5ft9.5 being a middle ground, I have 3 friends who are much much taller then me, one 6ft7 and two 6ft8 friends, of course when I’m next to them in pictures I look small but that’s because they are probably in the less than 1% of the population taller than the rest, which isn’t common. Even though when around them I’m 6ft2.25 in shoes.

So it’s all based on perspectives really, but I can’t agree with 30% of men are 6ft tall, or taller, this is coming from someone who frequents to bars and clubs 2/3 times a week and living in a big city in the uk I can’t see it being 6ft at all, unless they are in shoes like Nike with lifts.

@Rob would you say a lot of the time height is distorted because we go from our eye level which is much different from our actual height. My eye level is around 4.75 inches so it ranges anywhere from low 173cm-173.5cm.

I’ve been on this site for around 12-13 years I don’t post much, but I thought I would give my opinion as I am not far from 6ft.

Good to see you back also Rob.

Del Mar said on 5/Dec/24
Thanks Rob. Based on our footwear, would you say the two of us look 1.84 and 1.83 respectively, with PG?
I'm not sure if crocs give us any advantage or not to his sneakers. The pic again, so there is no doubt: Click Here

Emil said on 4/Dec/24
@Pirate123

Not sure where you get your facts from, but the average height in Northern Germany is significantly above 5'9.5

And 5'10 in the NL? That's the average height in the UK and France lol.

Abdul-177 said on 3/Dec/24
c-mo 176-177cm said on 1/Dec/24
@Pirate123

the average height for northern Germany is 5'11 or slightly above like 5'11.25

and in netherlands the average height is a solid 6'0

these are measured facts so please ....

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I’ve been to Flensburg and Kiel some times before by car, and I felt almost average at 177 cm. I don’t think the average height overall for males is 5’11 range. Maybe 5’10.5 range max.

Pirate7 said on 3/Dec/24
If i have small head does it mean i have high eye level?

75Mike said on 3/Dec/24
Should I claim my height lying down or standing up? I measured it at 186 or a little below it in the evening, using the aerosol can method. Though when I did it lying down I got somewhere between 186.5 - 186.6. Is this just a case of poor posture? Granted it was a day where I was lugging around a heavy backpack for a good portion of the day, and my upper back was in pain, but I was still trying to maintain good posture when standing. I know you've made a video about measuring when lying down, but I'm still unsure whether I could reasonably claim that height.

Jonus said on 3/Dec/24
Glad to see the comments are back up - Hope you're well Rob. Been on and off this site for quite a bit, but I'd like to give an update on my height.

At 18 years old I was 183cm 6ft tall, I would drop to 182.7 on hard days, but pretty much 6ft tall, or a strong 183 for the majority of the time. Was happy but not satisfied with it, I wanted more and I knew my body was still growing and developing as I saw all the signs, so I wanted to maximise my height potential - so I researched.

27 years old now, I went out for about 7 hours came home and measured 185.6cm on my seca stadiometer. I was aghast. Fair to say I grew a little in the past couple years and makes sense tbh; from late teenage years to adulthood a (realistic) final little bit of growth.

I now claim 186cm without hesitation.

Very happy and actually quite satisfied with 186cm.

Gianni 5' 7 said on 3/Dec/24
At 5 ft 6 3/4 (169.5 cm five hours out of bed) I just feel below average here in Northern Italy (like 28-30th percentile from my observations). I'd say that the average for the whole male population is about 5 ft 8.5 (174 cm), certainly no more and maybe a fraction under that mark. Things change if we consider the young crowds: amongst them I start feeling short. I'd say I'm about 20th percentile when I'm amongst guys who are 20-22 years old. The average height for young italians is probably 176 cm (5 ft 9 1/4)

James Edward Crowley said on 2/Dec/24
Rob it is possible for weak 5ft 8in men to pass for 5ft 10in in boots.

Del Mar said on 2/Dec/24
Hey Rob, I see Paul Greengrass is listed only 6' on imdb. I kinda got a feeling of 6'0.5 at the very least when I met him during the shoot of Utøya; Click Here

I can assure you my friend is 1.84 (on the right of PG), I've measured him. and I am on the very right at 1.83. What do you think?

c-mo 176-177cm said on 1/Dec/24
@Pirate123

the average height for northern Germany is 5'11 or slightly above like 5'11.25

and in netherlands the average height is a solid 6'0

these are measured facts so please ....

Sam83 said on 1/Dec/24
Hi rob, do you think super high pairs like these could give 6 inches extra height please? Click Here
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Pirate123 said on 30/Nov/24
The average for young males in Northern Germany is about 5'9.5. I have seen lots of comments from delusional people who claim the average is like 6'2 in Northern Germany which is bs. I know that the average is 5'9.5, and nothing more. I am 6'5 and i very rarely see anyone taller than me. Netherlands average is a bit more, about 5'10.

Freddy7 said on 30/Nov/24
Hey Rob. How tall should a man be if 152cm person comes a bit under his shoulder level?

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 29/Nov/24
I agree with Matt Shannon, Tom Kenny would be a good add. He was in a film with Adam Sandler called shakes the clown, he looked an inch taller than Adam so 5'10.5-5'10.75 range seems likely for Tom.

streax said on 29/Nov/24
Hey. What do you think how much does New Balance Fresh Foam x more v 5 mens running shoes add? They do look quite thick. Maybe 1.5inch range..? Click Here

Alex 6'0 said on 28/Nov/24
Progking, 6'0.75 normal low? Yea you can definitely claim 6'1. You're prob 6'1 earlier in day I'm sure depending on activities

Cobra 5'9.5" said on 28/Nov/24
Hi Rob!

I was measured at 5'9.5" at the doctor's office around lunchtime. Most people tell me that I'm 5'9". In some situations I feel short, in others I feel average. I'm not sure if I'm 5'9.5" or 5'9.25", so I usually claim 5'9". Do you think I'm closer to 5'9.5" or 5'9.25"?

Progking185 said on 26/Nov/24
@Ethan1724 I'm like 186.7/6'1.5 morning and I claim 6'1. Your definitely 6'1, noone will tell if you fall a couple mm below at night
@martin17 that's a pretty high eye level, I've measured mine at 13 cm range or 5.25 inches which is on the low side for sure lol. I feel about 6'0 sometimes but when measured I'm definitely close to, if not 6'1

Alex 6'0 said on 26/Nov/24
Good to see the comments back up!

Putrescent said on 26/Nov/24
Rob, what are the maximum and minimum listings you would use for someone who is just under/around 180cm in the morning and around 177.8cm -178.3cm (depending on the day) at night?

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 26/Nov/24
@Ethan1724: Yeah, that's solid 6ft1 territory and you do still have a good chance of reaching that almost 6ft2 zone.....

Legend 177 cm said on 25/Nov/24
@Rob

Hi Rob, can you add director Francis Ford Coppola? 5'8" could be a good listing for his peak height. He's probably around 5'7" now.

In this picture he's shorter than 5'8.75" Marlon Brando:

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In this picture he's shorter than 5'8" Robert Duvall:

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Alex 6'5 said on 25/Nov/24
Rob, Have you considered making more youtube videos in the future? I really enjoyed watching your videos! Especially the quarantine video. Videos like that would be nice to see

Freals said on 25/Nov/24
Hi. How much do you think Hoka Clifton 9 M shoes will add?

Breath3 said on 25/Nov/24
Hey Rob. How could i measure myself easily by myself? I find it very hard to do alone. I always get inaccurate measurements. Only thing i know for sure is that my eye level height is roughly 180cm. So i guess i should be in 192-194cm zone? I usually measure around that range.

Ethan1724 said on 24/Nov/24
Hey rob I start the day off at 187.4 cm and by the evening I’m usually between 185.2-185.5 cm depending on how active I am during the day. Would you say I’m a weak, decent or strong 6ft 1? I’m also 17 years old and I turn 18 next April. Do you think I have a chance of reaching 187-188 cm range?

martin17 said on 24/Nov/24
I must have a really high eye level. I've measured myself at above 187 cm in the morning and usually stay at or very near (within 0.5 cm) of that mark during most of the day. Though when I stand next to my 178 cm friend I can clearly see over the top of his head (not including his hair), and from what I've understood the average eye level distance is over 11 cm for men, 10 cm at the low end.

Gianni 5' 7 said on 24/Nov/24
Hi Rob. Can you please add Nicolò Barella. He's currently listed at 5 ft 8 (172 cm) but he honestly seems a weak 5 ft 7 at most

bababooey 176-174cm said on 24/Nov/24
Rob, I wake up 176 and go to bed 174. Around 5 hours after bed I measure 174.6-174 depending on what I was doing. My lowest night height is 173.6.
Do you think it would be fair to claim 5'8.75? Or should I go with a 174 flat?

Matt Shannon said on 22/Nov/24
Rob how tall do you think Tom Kenny the voice of SpongeBob is he’s listed as 5’11” on other sites but I think he’s around 5’10.5”-5’10.75”

5'11james said on 22/Nov/24
Rob, could you add Mike Shinoda and Emily Armstrong from Linkin Park, to this website please?

Jack (Still Growing) said on 21/Nov/24
Rob, I got measured 173.5 cm or thereabouts about 2 hours out of bed, but I didn't sleep good the night before, I got maybe an hour. What should I claim with those stats?

nokano said on 21/Nov/24
Hello everyone and Rob,

I recently met Brian Shaw, and was wondering how much he is taller than me. What do you think rob? He looked about 6 foot 7ish.

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Jake: 1.84 m - 1.85 m said on 19/Nov/24
Dominic Sessa of The Holdovers would be a good addition. Again, Charlie Hofheimer would be too

Jake: 1.84 m - 1.85 m said on 19/Nov/24
Hey Rob,

A few solid suggestions below who I think would make for great additions:

Lawrence Dane (Canadian actor in a plethora of classics incl a fair amount of now vintage horror such as Scanners)

John Larch (great character actor in Play Misty for Me etc)

Charlie Hofheimer (has been discussed on the Corey Hawkins page - good character actor, memorable roles aplenty)

Sam McMurray (looked similar to Cage in Raising Arizona)

Nikesh Patel (looks at least 5ft 11 in shows like The Devil's Hour)

Chase Stokes

Gerardo Celasco (Swimming with Sharks, films like Moneyball. Looks taller than Finn Jones who you've met, and gets listed at 6ft 1).

George Young (Malignant)

Richard Cabral (Mayans)

Alex Neustaedter

Dennis O'Keefe (in classic noirs)

Jared Abrahamson

Cheers

George89 said on 3/Oct/24
Yes, many studies that measure human height are often conducted earlier in the day, which tends to result in measurements closer to a person's "morning height." This practice is because height fluctuates throughout the day due to spinal compression. When a person is lying down overnight, the intervertebral discs rehydrate and expand, leading to a taller height in the morning. As the day progresses, the force of gravity compresses these discs, leading to a gradual reduction in height.

By conducting height measurements in the earlier part of the day, researchers aim for consistency and to minimize the impact of daily height variation. It provides a more standardized value that better represents an individual's maximum potential height, rather than one influenced by the compression effects that increase throughout the day.
So then I asked.. so could the night time heights be 1 or 2cm lower than the recorded averages.

Exactly. For most adults, the difference between morning and evening height can be around 1 to 2 centimeters due to spinal compression over the course of the day. Therefore, if the height recorded in a study is measured earlier in the day, you could reasonably estimate that the person would be about 1 to 2 cm shorter by nighttime. This variation depends on factors like age, hydration, physical activity, and overall spinal health, but a 1-2 cm reduction is a typical range for most people.



I asked chatgpt about human height studies. This is the answer which confirms what I've thought before. I'm 5ft8. Full range of height goes between 173.8cm down to 172cm at my absolute low. Maintain 172.5 most of the day.

In the UK I feel the average isn't the full 178 or 177cm at night. My thoughts are 174 or 173cm amongst the older crowd and 175 or 176cm for the younger crowd at night.

For context my brother goes between 180 and 178cm and always looks a solid high average height.

@RobPaul does your observations follow a similar trend?

Cooper Clarke said on 3/Oct/24
@Rob Yeah Simon's very tall. He's definitely the tallest out of the current Wiggles. He looks a couple inches taller than Lachy who's listed as 6’1 on Google. Simon himself is listed at 6’2 but from what I've seen there's defo more than an inch between them. (Google's not always reliable but I didn't have anything else to really go off of so I can only mention those listings for now) Either Lachy's shorter than 6’1 or Simon's taller than 6’2 and I wouldn't be surprised if it was more the latter. Murray Cook (the OG Red Wiggle before Simon took over) claimed 6’4 once as well and is generally listed between 6’3 and 6’4. Pretty sure that Simon even joked that he looks like Murray cause they're the same size, I mean they both wear red and they're both quite tall.

Harry Perlo said on 2/Oct/24
Big rob how tall do you think Ian Connel is from burniston and do you think he should have a page

Abdul-177 said on 2/Oct/24
Legend 177 cm said on 30/Sep/24
@Rob

Hi Rob. I measure 178.4 cm first thing in the morning, and 176.8-177 cm at night. Would I be listed at 5'9 3/4 or 5'9 7/8 on your site? Is this considered average height?

My morning height is 178.6. Tallest I ever measured right out of bed with anterior pelvic tilt which I still have even I go to the gym 6 times weekly was like 178.8. My low height is always either flat 177 or a few mm over it, and my extreme low is 176.5 cm after a tough leg workout , sometimes even 176.4.

So we are both 177 cm. I’d rather want the 5’9 7/8 listing. Since it’s a unique listing.

Cooper Clarke said on 1/Oct/24
Rob have you ever looked into the Wiggles' heights by any chance? I was obsessed with the OG's as a kid and they've become quite popular over the past few decades or so. Even to this day with the current gen they haven't stopped being successful, even making #1 on Triple J's Hottest 100. A fair few of these guys are listed on Google as well over 6ft tall. I can imagine them being on here at some point in the future.

Legend 177 cm said on 30/Sep/24
@Rob

Hi Rob. I measure 178.4 cm first thing in the morning, and 176.8-177 cm at night. Would I be listed at 5'9 3/4 or 5'9 7/8 on your site? Is this considered average height?

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 29/Sep/24
How about the comedians Stewart Lee and Richard Herring, Rob? I've seen 5'11.5 listings for stew and this looks about right, he looks above average height. Richard has claimed 5'7 but he looks a good 5 inches shorter than Stew so I'd so about 5'6.5 for him, plus in photos he looks slightly shorter than legit 5'7 guys.

Gamer Ak said on 28/Sep/24
Rob can you list Sneako? he claims 6'2 but looks 6"0.5-6'1.5 minimum barefoot. What do you think rob?

Caleb 178.8cm said on 27/Sep/24
@Darksol64 Actually I think Jamarion Sharp might be 7'3.75 barefoot, because some (but not all) of the players who participated in the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament were listed as being pretty close to the heights that they got measured at without shoes in the 2024 NBA combine. Such players include Isaac Jones (P.I.T. height of 6'8 vs. combine height of 6'7.75 without shoes), Enrique Freeman (P.I.T. height of 6'7.5 vs. combine height of 6'7.25 without shoes), and Nae'Qwan Tomlin (P.I.T. height of 6'8.5 vs. combine height of 6'8.25 without shoes).

Caleb 178.8cm said on 27/Sep/24
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In the second screenshot is 6'8.75-measured Marquese Chriss (#32) and Zhang Ziyu. How tall does Zhang Ziyu look if Marquese Chriss's height of 6'8.75 is legit?

Harry Perlo said on 27/Sep/24
Big rob if I get measured at 6'1¼ at lunch (woke up at 7.30am) how tall would you think I would be

Matt Shannon said on 25/Sep/24
Hey Rob how tall do you think voice actor Roger Craig Smith is? He’s listed as 5’6” on google and other websites but looking at photos of him with other people he looks between 5’4”-5’5”. What do you think?

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 25/Sep/24
Welcome back, Rob.


I know I've mentioned him before but Tim Robinson is going to be in a film with Paul Rudd and in production shots Tim looks about half an inch taller so I think a 5'9.5 listing would be good for him.

Rick84q said on 24/Sep/24
@c-mo 5'9.25
Seems like a Big gap between 1.80 and 1.95 tbh i dont know really , honestly life after 1.95 ain't so easy so 1.95 is pretty damm tall.

1.80 seems like the better option if You dont like to standout in a crowd , having a hard time gaining muscle and fit in places like airplines.

Now being 1.95 and jacked/good muscle body is awesome for sure, also great height for sports.
And people respecting You, just by height is real.

Darksol64 said on 24/Sep/24
@ Caleb/Canson: Wow, he is certainly standing over Shaq in that picture! Has he possibly dropped to even 6'10.75 or something here? Or really low 6'11 range at best.

I'll certainly agree with the 6'11.75 peak figure, he never looked strongly into the 7 ft range like Richard Kiel who was legit 7'1.5

To be sure, I have no problem with him claiming to be part of the 7 footer club. Obviously 6'11 and change is close enough!

Abdul-177 said on 24/Sep/24
@ c-mo 5'9.25 said on 27/Apr/24
would you guys rather be 180cm or 195cm ?

i think you know my answer already . 180cm is the perfect height in my opinion and i would take it over any height

but i thought for this forum it would be interesting to ask this question since many here would prefer to be taller than 180cm . but i wonder if you would take 195cm or 180
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It’s my current max, I don’t care about the certain heights to be honest. I like my height and I’m comfortable with being 177 cm. 180 cm is not much different from my height anyway, so my height would technically be close to be the best male height anyway.

Abdul-177 said on 24/Sep/24
@ 7272 said on 27/Apr/24
You think it's likely for someone to grow after 18?

I think an inch and a half or so after 18. I’m about 21 now, so I’m fully done growing.

Canson said on 23/Sep/24
@C-Mo: 195 only because I’m 193-194 now. So closer. But if it’s 190 or 195 I’ll take 190

MD said on 23/Sep/24
Are comments back for awhile, or are we still on a trial basis? Hope everything is going as good as it can go for you and your's.

c-mo 5'9.25 said on 27/Apr/24
would you guys rather be 180cm or 195cm ?

i think you know my answer already . 180cm is the perfect height in my opinion and i would take it over any height

but i thought for this forum it would be interesting to ask this question since many here would prefer to be taller than 180cm . but i wonder if you would take 195cm or 180

chad michaels said on 27/Apr/24
Hello Rob, how much do you think the NB 9060 add?
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7272 said on 27/Apr/24
You think it's likely for someone to grow after 18?

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 25/Apr/24
So do you think Tim Robinson is worth an add Rob? I think you should leave was a pretty big netflix show.

Caleb 178.9cm said on 25/Apr/24
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#10 is NBA player Jaylin Williams; he measured 6'8.75 in the 2022 NBA draft combine. How tall does Connor Vanover look next to him? 😯

Canson said on 24/Apr/24
Tezmon said on 22/Apr/24
What height are you in boots in the morning?!

With boots and an orthotic I can get 6’6.25-6’6.5 out of bed, orthotic is either 1/8” or 1/4” extra (over regular insole). I’m still 6’5.5-.75 in them at night provided my extreme low isn’t kicking in yet

Ehsan Jabar said on 24/Apr/24
Hey rob, I was wondering what height do you think the YouTuber Matt D'avella is?

Taweret said on 24/Apr/24
Hey rob sorry does that mean he’d be 1 cm taller than my friend? Thanks you

chad michaels said on 23/Apr/24
Hello, Rob
how much height do you think these add?
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Daycringeothon said on 23/Apr/24
This maybe more suitable for the perceived heights page idk.
There’s an interesting article easily available on the internet about Arnold Schwarzenegger and perceived height.It talked about how subconsciously people estimate height from someone’s shoulders and not the top of the head. They call it ‘hanging shoulders’. It is a subconscious cue people use to estimate a height.people may ignore the bottom of the feet and assume the point where the ankles is the point of origin to someone’s height.

Danny Bt said on 23/Apr/24
Hey Rob, I know you’re not a fan of busting a gut, but it seems hard to stand your tallest without using your stomach muscles, but I still don’t breathe in. Is that a fine way to measure?

Canson said on 23/Apr/24
@Caleb: Shaq may be shrinking but also Shaq said he’s only 6’11.75 before.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 23/Apr/24
Any idea on the comedian Tim Robinson, Rob? He looks shorter than 5'10.25 listed Sam Richardson but not by much. I think he could be 5'9.75 or 5'9.5 at worst.

Taweret said on 23/Apr/24
Oh man that bloody question has bn buggin me for months rob!!! Thank you so much. I’m actually super jazzed about that!!! One last question, u mentioned the ground can have an affect and buck is abit closer to the camera, how much height do you think buck is gaining from what u said? And do u think my mate is in the clear (meaning he’s at no disadvantages?)

Caleb 178.9cm said on 22/Apr/24
Rob, how tall do you think Roy Hibbert and Rik Smits are, from looking at their picture together and Hibbert's media day photos with his teammates?

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Zeeshan Asif said on 22/Apr/24
Hello Rob, hope your'e doing well. I was wondering if you might add some people I was thinking of.

Firstly, Jack Dylan Grazer and Asher Angel, both from Shazam. Ive heard around 5'8 and 5'9 for the pair of them, but they could be shorter.

Secondly, Jude Bellingham, hes 20 now so prob wont grow any more. I've heard 6'1 for him but im not sure.

Caleb 178.9cm said on 22/Apr/24
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I'm surprised that Jamarion Sharp measured only 7'3.75 with shoes on in the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament yet looked a good 4 inches taller than Shaq.

Taweret said on 22/Apr/24
Hey rob since you have some rugby players on here, i thought I’d ask your perspective on how tall u think my friend is? He showed me a picture of him and buck shelford, buck shelford is an ex All Black who’s around 6’1 185 or 186 cm. Is my friend the same height as buck shelford?

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Tezmon said on 22/Apr/24
What height are you in boots in the morning?!

Progking185 said on 21/Apr/24
Comments back for now? Nice. Welcome back everyone. I think I had a few celeb requests for here, I forget lol but will update in a bit!

Jake: 1.84 m - 1.85 m said on 21/Apr/24
Hugh O'Brian works be an interesting addition, in a few classics.

Caleb 178.9cm said on 21/Apr/24
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If Othello Hunter, the guy on the right in the picture, is 6'6.5-6'7 barefoot, how tall does Nedzad Sinanovic look?

Peter 180cm said on 21/Apr/24
My perceived height is 181-181.5cm,and my actual low is usually 179.5. Is that why people commonly refer to me as tall and guess me at around 6 feet? I think good posture and certain proportions like a long neck or a big head can make you look a little taller.

Canson said on 20/Apr/24
@Editor Rob: how about a page for Victor Wembanya? Says measured 7’3.5” at the spurs summer camp. Easily looks this height with Duncan and 6’11.5 David Robinson

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Henrik said on 2/Dec/23
@Poster

Sometimes tall women can be bullied for their height. Or they just don't like hearing comments about being tall. For example, they used volleyball comments as ad hominems against the 5ft 10 (1.78m) anti-feminist YouTuber Pearl Davis. Although tall guys can hear basketball comments too, but it seems maybe it can be worse for women, IDK. Funnily enough, I saw a 6ft 7 (2m) YouTuber engage in the volleyball bullying of Pearl. 🤔 That's why I was surprised to hear that tall women add extra inches; I kind of thought being too tall as a woman was a bit of a 'negative' thing that caused the need to work on their self-confidence.

But yeah, Taylor Swift is 5ft 9 and claims 5ft 10 (1.78m) as well as 5ft 11 (1.80m), so I guess tall women can develop confidence to inflate their height.

Abdul-5'10 said on 2/Dec/23
c-mo 5'9.25 said on 30/Nov/23
Harris Bhatti said on 29/Nov/23
187 cm is the most aesthetically pleasing height proportion wise.

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nah . 180cm is
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I say it’s around 181-183

rlheight5'11 said on 2/Dec/23
@Rob
I didn't know until a few days ago, it's good to have them back 👍

Poster said on 1/Dec/23
I'm somewhat surprised that tall women add inches to their height too. I guess that Henrik and I aren't around women like that. I know short girls who add inches to their heights, though. A 5'0 girl claimed to be 5'4!

rlheight5'11 said on 1/Dec/23
@Rob
So.. the comments are back 😀

ZDA said on 1/Dec/23
Hi Rob, what’s your take the beginning of tall in cm in the U.K?

Nik Ashton said on 1/Dec/23
Our female friend popped into see us yesterday and she claimed to be 5’11”!

Nik Ashton said on 1/Dec/23
@ pov - 6’0” is still tall and 5’11.5” is maybe tall too. Average is 5’8”-5’10.5”. There are more taller people than in years gone by but the average hasn’t changed by as much as people think.

John 6'0.75 said on 1/Dec/23
@ c-mo 5'9.25

You're right, the most balanced proportions are in the 5'11 range, and this is very apparent in real life.

I think a compromise between good proportions and sufficient height is generally achieved at anything between 183cm and 186cm, although the midpoint of 184cm to 185cm would be the maximum to strike this balance. This is especially pertinent to overall head size.

It's difficult of course to negate bias - but it's easier to assess heights similar to one's own with greater accuracy.

Gibson Bradford said on 30/Nov/23
Rob, I measure at 6'1"3/4--6'2" right out of bed, then shrink down to 6'1" or 6ft 7/8 of an inch by the end of the day....absolute lowest after walking and running was a millimeter over 6ft 3/4 of an inch. Can I just claim 6'1" no problem?

adrianjacobs said on 30/Nov/23
@Sagenn "usually you would find a lot of attractive and socially active people accross your way espacially in small clusters such as parties, bars and affluents neightboorhoods, and of course they're taller, healthier and are disporportionately more to be seen in those nightly contexts than they are in daily life so effective average will clearly differ from the 177-178 official western countries numbers. in my experience, healthy/socially active people i've talked about are more around 180-181 or even 181-182 at a low. being a college student who is used to go out quite a lot i just cannot stick with the conventional 5'10ish, this is why i would set up my tall benchmark somewhere around 188-189"

Do you realize how disrespectful you sound? What if I started saying that socially active people are more white than non-social people? Would that sound okay to you? Height and skin color are both things you have no influence over.
You also must be European if you think it's fine to generalize attractive and non-attractive people in this kind of way.

John 6'0.75 said on 30/Nov/23
pov said on 28/Nov/23
@John 6’0.75, as mentioned to @Progking, I think tall should be decided from a common sense point of view, as opposed to stats. We get too tied into them, and from there technically anything above average can be argued as tall, even though in real life a 180cm guy wouldn’t even be described as a “tall guy” if you know what I mean. Even me at 184cm, no one really describes me as “the tall guy”. I think 187cm is the start of a proper tall IMO.


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@pov

I get the point you're making, but I wouldn't say that anything above average could technically be considered tall, and that's why statistics are important. If a given average range is 5'9 - 5'11 then 6'0 surpasses high average, and whilst debatable as to whether this appears sufficient to be considered the starting point of tall, statistically speaking it isn't.

The 184cm/185cm range I would argue becomes more than just tallish, it's only going to stand out moderately, but looks tall in real life in my opinion.
But 1 standard deviation above the mean will be seen as tall in the general population.

In Holland, Scandinavia, and parts of the Balkans I could say that at 190cm I'm never known as the tall guy.
If I were 187cm in these regions it would place me in the average range - so it's all relative.

ZDA said on 30/Nov/23
Hey Rob, how do you view a guy 180 cm before bed In general in the U.K.?

c-mo 5'9.25 said on 30/Nov/23
Harris Bhatti said on 29/Nov/23
187 cm is the most aesthetically pleasing height proportion wise.

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nah . 180cm is

Henrik said on 30/Nov/23
@Darksol64

I didn't know 5ft 10 (1.78m) women added inches to their height. That is very tall for a woman, equivalent to a 6ft 3-4 (1.90m+) man. Usually when a woman that height tells me her height, I'm inclined to believe it without any suspicion. That is interesting. I would have thought if anything, they'd downgrade.

rlheight5'11 said on 30/Nov/23
@Henrik
Yup prob temp, idk they never used to go down like that.

Darksol64 said on 29/Nov/23
@Henrik

I have some experience with the numbers game there and dating, haha.

Have dated a girl that claimed to be 6 ft and I was damn near looking over her head, and that shouldn't be the case as I'm a strong 187 weakish 6'2 with a 5'9 and change eyeline. My online profile I just put 6'1 so I guess she was probably surprised when I showed up near over 4 inches over her, especially if she thinks she's 6'0 and was about to date a 6'1 guy haha. When she's like 5'10 at best in reality.

Few years later did a date with a short girl probably 5'1 and she tells me I'm the tallest guy she's ever been on a date with. I'm thinking to myself really? Sure I'm a good 4-5 inches above average but still a good 2 inches under the very tall range which is like 1/50 guys. Oddball statistically or maybe she just hasn't been with many guys. r was a subtle innocent compliment.

Fun times, either way.

zairphoenix said on 29/Nov/23
Hey Rob,

I just went back for my yearly physical and measured 177cm at 4:00 P.M.
Would 5'10 be reasonable to claim?

Maricks said on 29/Nov/23
Rob, What height listing would you give based on these stats 6'1.75 is my morning height and during evening and night go down to 6'0.875?

KyleJoshua said on 29/Nov/23
Hey Rob, how much height do you think this sneaker gives?
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James B 172cm said on 29/Nov/23
I have an associate that I see from time to time who always claims to be 6ft6 so I assume he’s being honest. I am only 5ft7.5-5ft8 but last time I saw him up close he did look exceptionally tall sure but not freakish or anything like that.

Met some guys before who claim 6ft5 that give a taller impression than my friend. I’d be surprised if he turned out to be only 193cm though because why would a 6ft4 man feel the need to claim 6ft6?

Harris Bhatti said on 29/Nov/23
187 cm is the most aesthetically pleasing height proportion wise.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 29/Nov/23
For UK, I think 6ft is tall in gen pop but around 18-25yr old males I think you need to be 6'0.5 to be considered tall.

chad michaels said on 28/Nov/23
Hello Rob, How much do you think these 2 shoes add?

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pov said on 28/Nov/23
@HarrisBhatti, basing it on a +10cm range. E.g. short 167cm, average 177cm, tall 187cm. In between these figures you also have ranges, e.g shortish, below average, above average, tallish. Also, I would argue that Cristiano is 186cm, I know he’s listed as 185cm, but that measurement was taken after exercise, so he’s at his lowest. I would say he’s on the borderline, high end of tallish but not a solid tall guy. He’s touching that borderline. He’s got the body proportions of a 6”2 guy though, so that helps.

@Progking Exactly. I think when we describe tall we need to use a common sense perspective as opposed to stats. If we used stats technically anything above average could be argued as tall. I’d say 187cm+ is a proper tall.

@John 6’0.75, as mentioned to @Progking, I think tall should be decided from a common sense point of view, as opposed to stats. We get too tied into them, and from there technically anything above average can be argued as tall, even though in real life a 180cm guy wouldn’t even be described as a “tall guy” if you know what I mean. Even me at 184cm, no one really describes me as “the tall guy”. I think 187cm is the start of a proper tall IMO.

Henrik said on 28/Nov/23
What is tall is subjective. You will meet people who'd say tall begins at 1.95m (6ft 5).

Although I think quite a few 5ft 10 (1.78m) guys claim to be 6ft (1.83m) like Harry Styles. Simply because some girls and women are fixated by the 6ft number and refuse to date anyone shorter than that on the apps. This skewers the perception of how tall a true 6ft really is.

c-mo 5'9.25 said on 28/Nov/23
regarding what is tall this is my opinion

this is my height chart for men between 18 and 50 in the western world

all heights are about 5 hours out of bed


the more below 164 the more it becomes very short . and at a certain point extremely short

164 - 169 = short

170 - 172 = a little short

173 - 174 = below average but not short . ( maybe slightly so . but less so 174cm which is almost comfortably medium range) . basically a grey area

175 - 180 = medium range

181 - 182 = above average but not tall (maybe slightly so . especially 182) . grey area like 173 - 174

183 - 185 = a little tall . just like 170 - 172 being a little short

186 - 191 = legit tall

192 - 193 = this is starting to touch the very tall area . depending on the situation this might already be very tall

194 - 200 = very tall

above 200 = huge

above 207 = extremely tall and becoming giant like

213 / 7' + = gigantism



but this is just a rough idea and the heights are somewhat fluid . and there are also factors like body build , body proportions , shoes , posture etc. to be taken into account . for example when you are 184cm and have a lanky build and solid shoes you will likely already be seen as legit tall by most people . when you are 172 you are hardly different than a guy who is 173 for example . you dont suddenly become very different with 1cm more . or the medium range of 175 - 180 . at the higher ends you will feel and be seen as tallish in a good amount of situations . while at 175 you might feel slightly shortish at times especially when you have thin footwear and bad posture etc.

also if you are 177.5cm which is exactly in the middle of 175 - 180 you are medium height in the western world but you are tallish when you include more countries in the world and also include older men . and also taller than vast majority of women etc. so even though 177.5 is medium height in the west for non elderly men it is still on the taller side of the spectrum when you consider these things

this is just a rough height chart but i am pretty content with it . this chart shows reality in my experience and according to my observations

John 6'0.75 said on 28/Nov/23
I think 6'1.5 - 6'2 is more solid and for that reason alone I can certainly understand why it is more desirable than 6'0.5 - 6'1.

At 6'0.75 I already feel that I stand out moderately here in the UK and wouldn't really want to be any taller. There have also been times that I have barely had enough legroom in cars, planes/trains, and as a traveller this becomes particularly relevant to me.
I also think that the aesthetics and proportions in real life of 6'0.5 - 6'1 are better than that of 6'1.5 - 6'2. But in films the reverse is generally true.

In reference to male modelling photos I think the most aesthetic range is 184cm - 186cm.

It's probably easier to assess slightly taller or shorter heights in relation to oneself.

John 6'0.75 said on 28/Nov/23
@pov

If you would consider 6'1.5 the starting point of tall on the basis that it generally appears lanky then I would agree with you. Though from a statistical standpoint 1 standard deviation above average is accepted as the starting point of tall.

This would mean collectively that worldwide tall starts at 5'10 or 5'11, and collectively in Europe at around 6'0.5 or 6'1.

Sagenn said on 28/Nov/23
at 188/186 out of bed/evening height would i be considered as being 187cm tall on this site? seems like a lot of people here are going by different standards when it comes to actual height
according to my experience i think i'm indeed a bit shy of being true tall guy, especially since i'm not referring too much on everyday life where height fluctuates a lot due to the heterogeneity of people
we encounter, my way to go is night time life, this is when things get interesting, usually you would find a lot of attractive and socially active people accross your way espacially in small clusters such as parties, bars and affluents neightboorhoods, and of course they're taller, healthier and are disporportionately more to be seen in those nightly contexts than they are in daily life so effective average will clearly differ from the 177-178 official western countries numbers. in my experience, healthy/socially active people i've talked about are more around 180-181 or even 181-182 at a low. being a college student who is used to go out quite a lot i just cannot stick with the conventional 5'10ish, this is why i would set up my tall benchmark somewhere around 188-189 evening time, going back to my height i'm a fairly above average/tallish comparatively to the young & healthy average man, which is fine, albeit kinda frustrating sometimes, i mean im stuck in the tallish to tall border so im not able to fully enjoy the benefits of being tall like the 6'3 and 6'4 guys do!

Progking185 said on 27/Nov/23
@pov I think anything over 6'0 is tall, but 6'0 with the general 5'9 population I guess. I just say 6'0.5-6'1 is fairly tall, but I can see why you wouldnt call it tall, not too noticeable. 6'1.5-6'2 is start of solidly tall.

Harris Bhatti said on 27/Nov/23
@pov
What are you basing that on ? A standard deviation is about 3 inches so start of tall is about 185cm and it does make sense. So your saying someone like Ronaldo isn’t tall ?

pov said on 26/Nov/23
I’d say 6”1.5 (187cm) is the minimum requirement to be considered tall in the UK and US, in my opinion. This term of “6 foot” being tall is outdated. As average height has gone up, so should the benchmark for “tall”. I would say someone like Will Smith at 6”1.5 starts off the “tall” benchmark. I’m 184cm (6”0.5) and I am above average / tallish, but not a solid tall. I would never say tall. 6”1.5 is where I would say tall starts.

Henrik said on 25/Nov/23
@Progking185

Temporarily at least, it would seem.

Progking185 said on 24/Nov/23
Are the comments back up yet? Anyways still walking tall at around 185 lol

popyou004 said on 27/Sep/23
So is 5’8 still average range and is 5’7 short ? Like where would a guy like zayn Malik fit ? Short ? Average ? Considering average is close to 5’10

Kevin said on 27/Sep/23
@John185

Great post, I agree. Yeah, there really isn't any downside to being 6'1 that I can think of. It's an ideal height in almost any situation. 6'0-6'2 is also widely considered the ideal height for male models. Coincidence? I think not.

dreus23 said on 27/Sep/23
@Darksol

I've noticed I can lose quite a lot of height standing relaxed compared to standing at my tallest, I think I have a fairly long neck that I guess isn't always stretched out and I've noticed that in a few other people as well who also have long necks (that they look shorter until standing straight)

For example in my country our stores put up these height markers at the entrance/exit (it's used to capture criminals, it's just that it's completely worthless lmao) and walking by them (in shoes) I don't think I'm anything over 170 cm. A few weeks ago I tried standing straight next to the markers and I was suddenly reaching over 175 cm. Similarly at home I have a 164.5 cm marking from a few years back and my dad who's like 170-171 cm nowadays can look only a couple cm taller than that marking standing relaxed

Big Ben said on 27/Sep/23
@SZ - oh, right, yes maybe. I meant for example when you have your neck forward relaxed, and a completely relaxed spine, hips and knees. And me lowering my eye level might exaggerate my perception. I normally have a good posture.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 27/Sep/23
I read somewhere UK young male average is 177.5cm measured. But you can shave off a few mms from that as most people aren't measured in the evening. So about 5'9.75 I'd say. I feel within average amongst younguns(I'm 32) but at lower end. If we are talking evening heights most 18-30s are 5'9.5-5'10.5 range.

Abdu-5'10" said on 27/Sep/23
SZ said on 27/Sep/23
Average in the U.K. overall is 175 cm. 5 ft 9

Young guys though are a little taller at around 177 cm 5 ft 9.5

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Average range seems to be at least 174-178

Sam83 said on 27/Sep/23
Hi rob, thank you for looking! Would have been interesting if I had compared at the time, but sounds like she may have had a good chance of edging me out by an inch or so maybe, if she reached 6ft compared to my 5’11! It’s always surprising seeing someone appear a lot taller than you are used to, when they wear heels!

John185 said on 27/Sep/23
It's fair to assume that if the available data is indicative of a global male average of 171cm for all age groups, then young men might average 173cm.

Statistically tall therefore starts at around 180.5cm worldwide for the younger generation.

The corresponding percentiles are as follows:

178cm =
75th Percentile
0.7 Standard Deviation Above Mean

179cm =
79.1st Percentile
0.8 Standard Deviation Above Mean

180cm =
82.7th Percentile
0.9 Standard Deviation Above Mean

181cm =
86th Percentile
1.1 Standard Deviation Above Mean

182cm =
88.7th Percentile
1.2 Standard Deviation Above Mean

183cm =
91.1st Percentile
1.3 Standard Deviation Above Mean

184cm =
93.1st Percentile
1.5 Standard Deviation Above Mean

185cm =
94.7th Percentile
1.6 Standard Deviation Above Mean

186cm =
96th Percentile
1.8 Standard Deviation Above Mean

187cm =
97th Percentile
1.9 Standard Deviation Above Mean

188cm =
97.8th Percentile
2.0 Standard Deviations Above Mean

John185 said on 27/Sep/23
@186-187cm

In affluent parts of the UK the average for young men could be 180cm - 181cm, but in certain working class areas it's no more than 175cm - 176cm.
Overall I would say the average still doesn't exceed 178cm.
Also bear in mind that there are more middle-class people at college, so the average in settings such as that could be closer to 179cm - 180cm.

I reached my final height of 6ft 0.75/184.8cm at 16, but it's probably more common for men to grow until 18. Of course a minority will keep growing into their early 20's.

SZ said on 27/Sep/23
Average in the U.K. overall is 175 cm. 5 ft 9

Young guys though are a little taller at around 177 cm 5 ft 9.5

Canson said on 26/Sep/23
@J-Dog: great seeing you post again!

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Darksol64 said on 26/Sep/23
@ BigBen

That's not right at all. Maybe you're mixing up relaxed versus slumping?

I'm strong 187 stretched up and I might drop to 186 relaxed at most. I can still see over the top of the average 5'9 guys head even without stretching up.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 26/Sep/23
Any idea on Tim Robinson, Rob? From detroiters and I think you should leave. Compared with 5'10.25ish Sam Richardson I think he looks 5'9.5 maybe 5'9.75.

Big Ben said on 26/Sep/23
@Rob - yes, I also think it’s not normal to lose that much. I feel like Clark Kent transitioning to Superman when I fix my posture. Although it was just an estimate, it might just be 2 inches but I’m probably lowering my eye level subconsciously which might make it seem like 3 inches. But I do have a longer and thicker neck than most and that might be why.

5'11james said on 26/Sep/23
Hey Rob, ive found a pretty accurate way of measuring your height recently, here's how to do it:

1. Get a tape measure, get it at what your certain that your height is at, (I did 180cm)

2. Step on the metal part of the tape (the bottom of it with your toes) and make sure it's on the blank side when you look at it, and hold the hard part of tape measure, and make sure the tape is straight, and press the button to keep the tape in place.

3. Grab a phone and go on the camera and you can check if the hard part that your holding is close to the top of your head. Depending where youve set it at (for me again, it's 180cm).

If your head is pretty much bang on what CM you've set it to, then boom. That's your height. If not, press the tape measure to unhold it in place, and lower the tape down a bit, and use the camera app to check if the top hard part of the tape measure is touching the top of your head.

That's it.

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186-187cm said on 25/Sep/23
Amongst the younger generation in the UK age 18-25 would you say the average height is around 178-179 cm for males? I just started college and I’m a strong 186cm and whilst i do feel quite tall there are still many taller than me so I struggle to see how an average young male can be in the 5ft 9 range.Also what would you say the average growth between the ages of 16-18 are between males 2-3cm’s?

Adam10 said on 25/Sep/23
I measure 5'9.25" out of bed and am around 5'8.7" by afternoon/night after a typical day. After running or weight lifting I can measure as low as 5'8.5", is it disingenuous to claim 5'9?

popyou004 said on 25/Sep/23
Rob there’s something I don’t understand. If an average let’s say is 5’10. Will there be as many 5’8 guys as there will be 6’0 guys ? Or is it the taller the rarer it is. Will there be more 5’8 guys than 6ft or equal

popyou004 said on 25/Sep/23
Rob are you sure 5’10 is the average height among younger generations. I think it’s still under it. I see so many 5’8 people. If average height is 5’10 is 5’8 considered short or is it still average ? I think average might still be 176-177

J-Dog said on 25/Sep/23
Hey Rob, have you considered adding Will Reeve. Christopher Reeve's youngest son? He is on ABC Good Morning America and claims a height of 6'4" like his father.

Glacierrr said on 25/Sep/23
Hi Rob, do you think Jack Black is losing height in the photo due to his pose?

Big Ben said on 25/Sep/23
Hi Rob, how are you? I have a question, how come I lose around 3 inches when standing with a relaxed posture but my girlfriend who is 161 barely loses anything, maybe only an inch or two? Same with a friend who is a bit over 5’6”, if he stands relaxed he only loses about an inch (only an estimate from my POV).

I was in Barcelona a few weeks ago, the difference in height compared to Scandinavia is quite remarkable. I was always one of the tallest people around, even in big crowds I’d easily be taller than at least 80% of men whereas in Sweden I’m average height. Before Barcelona I spent a few days in Paris where the average was maybe a little taller than Barcelona, but only about an inch.

Progking185 said on 24/Sep/23
@jslatt they both look tall but Chunkz not quite 6'2 there. looks maybe a weak 6'1 and 6'2 could be a shoe measurement.

John185 said on 24/Sep/23
Start of tall = 1 standard deviation above the mean.

Tall for a 5ft 9 average is approximately:
5ft 11.78

Tall for a 5ft 9.5 average is approximately:
6ft 0.28

Tall for a 5ft 10 average is approximately:
6ft 0.78

(Assumming a relatively normal height distribution.)



171cm/5ft 7.32 is the global average height for men - so 1 standard deviation above the mean is 5ft 10.1


Factoring in aesthetics, convenience in everyday life, as well as what I would consider tall enough to moderately stand out but not draw too much attention I deduce that 6ft 0.5 - 6ft 1.5 or 184cm - 186cm is the ideal range.

I think 6ft is very good but a fraction too short, and 6ft 2 is very good but a fraction too tall. But anything from 6ft - 6ft 2 is essentially 100% good.

Strong 181 said on 23/Sep/23
Rob, I think the Seca 213 might undermeasure me slightly. When I measure myself facing the stadiometer ( only so I can max out my posture and stand tall ), the part that touches my head is slightly too short to really measure the highest point of my skull. Can you think of any solution to fix this ? Is there a stadiometer as accurate as the Seca 213 with a longer measuring part ?