Rusty james said on 3/Oct/07
Big show's looking a bit rough.
Alex said on 3/Oct/07
I wonder where Jason is on this page. I think he would like to see the picture above!
Alex said on 3/Oct/07
Also the picture with 6'6-6'6.6 Dennis Rodman makes Big Show look at least 6'11 and thats with a measured athlete too. Maybe Mike is taller than 6'1.5 or something?
But like Big Show the poster said we've seen him look taller next to other guys 6'1-6'2.
saga said on 3/Oct/07
He looks about 6'10 (208cm) in the pic above. Maybe 6'10.5 (209cm) but not taller.
Big Show said on 3/Oct/07
In the pic above Show only looks 6'9 Tops. But we've seen countless pics of Big Show next to other people where he looks much taller next to people of 6'1 or 6'2.
Cairo86 said on 3/Oct/07
What a big head big show has. Based on this photo I would put big show at 6ft 9. Must consider his head is 2 inches bigger than normal 6ft men.
tubbs said on 3/Oct/07
I have a genuine 7ft friend, i'm a little shy of Mikes height who is 187cm and there is a much bigger gap between myself and my friend than between Mike and Bigshow. Maybe Bigshow is a guy around 6'10 who can easily get away with the 7ft listing, due to being that much bigger than everyone else. It's not as easy as sniffing out a 5'10 guy claiming to be 6ft, either way he's huge.
Antin said on 3/Oct/07
looks 6'8-6'9
mike m said on 3/Oct/07
imo if that guy is only 6'1" show imo doesn,t look a foot taller more like 9-10 inches imo,so i,d give show 6'11" tops.
Markus said on 3/Oct/07
Doesn't appear 213 cm here. He is roughly a little over half a head taller than the 187 cm guy next to him in the. A normal head is about 20 - 24 cm ?
His head looks pretty big, let's assume it's 25 cm max...he would be about 15 cm taller than the 187 cm guy. That would make him 202 cm, 205 max.
This picture would look like a 180 cm guy next to me (194 cm)
topdweeb26 said on 2/Oct/07
Vegas: heck if 7' 2 was his listed height when he was arrested, then he probably really was a legit 7' 1 in bare feet back then.
Vegas said on 2/Oct/07
7'2" was Wight's listed height during his arrest.
ted said on 2/Oct/07
Rob what height did they have list him during his arrest?
Danimal said on 1/Oct/07
JT says on 1/Oct/07
Topdweeb26, it
Alex said on 1/Oct/07
HBK isn't 6'0 though. He's about 5'11 really.
I've seen Big Show and Nash look a bit closer in height before than in those pics. Really no more than 2 inches between the 2.
topdweeb26 said on 1/Oct/07
JT: He definitely looks pretty gigantic in those pics too... he's just a massive man.
Big Show said on 1/Oct/07
The slimmer you are the taller you appear. When you look at pics of Andre the Giant from the late 60's he appears taller than in the pics from the mid 70's when he gained over a 100 lbs in weight. But looks can be deceiving as Andre was obviously still the same height (maybe 0.5 inch difference Tops!). For Big Show it's the same, he indeed looks taller in his WCW days but I think looks are deceiving. He looked the same height next to Nash in 2002 as he did in 1997, so apparently he hasn't lost any height and if he did it's not that much. In 2006 he looked taller next to Kane than he ever did before (mostly because Kane stopped wearing those huge lifts which made him nearly the same height as Big Show in 1999).
JT said on 1/Oct/07
Topdweeb26, it
topdweeb26 said on 30/Sep/07
Big Show simply looked gigantic back in WCW... he obviously either lost some height, or perhaps he just really looks that tall when he is at a "normal" weight and can stand straight. I would have loved to have seen that version of the Big Show stand face to face with Khali.
Big Show said on 30/Sep/07
Here's a rare vid of Big Show when he was still the Giant in WCW and part of the Dungeon of Doom. The Taskmasker takes on the young rookie Damon Striker, whom you all know better as Edge.
Click Here Alex said on 30/Sep/07
I agree Topdweeb, but only by a little. Andre was no less than 6'11 at his peak I am almost sure of. Big Show was at least 7'0.
topdweeb26 said on 29/Sep/07
I think the Big Show is taller than Andre ever was.
Big Show said on 29/Sep/07
When exactly did Andre ever face off against Scott Schwartz. I have a very extensive list with all of Andre's matches from 1969 til 1992. And if Scott L. Schwartz is a legitimate 6'10 barefoot, why was he billed as 6'9 when he wrestled as Giant David?
Click Here Danimal said on 28/Sep/07
Very informative Aaron. Just so you know, most people on here won't really appreciate what you just contributed. Most people on here don't really care about Andre. All they do care is on lowering his height as much as possible. I do really appreciate what you have had to say though. I personally don't think Andre was 7'2" at his peak (perhaps with shoes on) and probably 7'0.5" in 1980 (again with shoes on)..
Titan said on 27/Sep/07
listen I met Big show when he began his career with the WWE when he weighed maybe 50 - 60lbs lighter and at his max out weight now a days (which I heard online on serval inside scoop websites that it was 520lbs and his weight was a reason to reatire becasue of his back!!!!!) When you have emance pain in your back and your over weight it' hard to stand straight all the time. But, Big Show was 7'1'' when I met him with wrestling boots on and about 7' when I met him years kater with boots on.
topdweeb26 said on 24/Sep/07
You tried to say that Big Show didn't tower over the Undertaker early on. I'm saying that he did, regardless of whether or not the difference was less than it was in recent years.
Aaron said on 24/Sep/07
Scott Schwartz,( the tall bald guy from Oceans 11, who was a professional wrestler for years, and is a LEGITAMATE 6'10" barefoot, told me in person at a trade show that Andre the giant was about a half inch over 7 feet when he wrestled him in Montreal in 1980, he had to duck through a 7 foot doorway in the lockeroom, while barefoot. Scott's trainer was Killer Kowalski, whom i also got a chance to speak to at this show, and in his youth was a legit 6'7"( he stands about 6'6" now, and Kowalski said Andre used to be a legit 7'2", but as he got fatter, his spine started to compress and his posture was effected. I asked Scott about Big Show, and he said Show is by his estimate about 7'1.5", standing next to him, but he's never seen him barefoot before in person, so he can't make a completely accurate judgement. He also said that Hogan wore lifts in his shoes for years( including his matches with and against Andre, because Hogan had a complex about trying to be as big as Andre ) and Hogan was at least a legitimate 6'5". I met hogan recently at a strip club in Clearwater, FL, and he slouches and walks like an old man now because of his artificial hip, and he was still a legitimate 6'4", slouched over, and he was wearing flip-flops at the time, wearas i was wearing dress shoes with a heel, and i stand 6'2.5", so i can guage his height pretty well.
We all know That Andre was 6'10" at the end of his career, because of having several vertebrae fused together in a surgery before wrestlemania 3. The anethesiologist who performed in that surgery is famous for coming up with the formula for extrapolating the amount of needed anethesia, because they had no idea how much to give andre for his surgery. I want you guys to read this webpage, its about Andre's drinking exploits.
Click Here Danimal said on 23/Sep/07
All I am saying is that there was LESS of a difference in height between taker and show in 1999 and 2000 then there was after.
Alex said on 23/Sep/07
In my opinion to be towering over someone you have to be at least 4-5 inches taller. Most people who are 5 inches taller than someone will be able to see over the top of the person's head. 2-3 inches is a fair difference. 1 inch or less is a small difference.
Like when I consider myself to tower over someone 5'7-5'8 but 5'9-5'10, just a fair amount taller. Everyone thinks different though.
What kills me is when people say you're almost as tall as him while you're 6-7 inches shorter! sorry but thats just stupid.
topdweeb26 said on 22/Sep/07
Danimal, I don't know what you consider a huge difference, but as long as the TV angle wasn't weird or anything, I have always noticed a pretty big difference between Wight the Undertaker, even when they first started tagging. By big, do you mean more than 4 inches?
Danimal said on 21/Sep/07
What I am THINKING is that I have WATCHED several matches of the Taker and Big Show tag teaming in 1999, when Taker was in the ministry and there wasn't THAT huge of a difference.
Alex said on 21/Sep/07
I know UT was shorter by 2001-2002. Just saying Big Show towered over him more than he did in 1999. That or UT was in lifts back then.
Alex said on 21/Sep/07
With that poster the funniest thing is Hardcore Holly at 6'4 at least. You can so tell thats fake because the guy stands 5'11.5-6'0 barefoot and in boots would be 6'1ish.
cantstop25 said on 21/Sep/07
everybody is showing the pictures of when big show towered over the undertaker, but there are many pictures where undertaker looks very close in height to the big fella, many pictures can be deceiving peole need to realize that
Jason said on 21/Sep/07
Alex says on 19/Sep/07
''Big Show, I agree with what you just said.
I do remember that magazine. I actually have it in my collection and it has Holly at 6'4 I think. He was on a box or something to get to that height mark. Who were they trying to fool because even back then I didn't think Holly was over 6'2. Really he's 5'11.5-6'0.''
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Big Show says on 19/Sep/07
Back in 1999 in one of WWF magazines there was a height chart with Big Show, Kane, Viscera and Bob Holly on it. Big Show was just above that 7 foot mark, while Kane was IIRC 7 feet flat or just below it. But yes topdweeb, it's ridiculous how they've handled Big Show's size over the years. Even when he tagged with Kane, they still billed Kane and Big Show at 7 feet, while Big Show was clearly 4 or 5 inches taller than Kane. And Khali was only about an inch taller than Big Show, yet WWE wants us to believe it's 3 inches. WWE is never really consistant with their height listings. Certain wrestlers get billed at their real heights while others get exaggerated, making it look inconsistant sometimes.''
MikeV10 says on 20/Sep/07
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Anonymous said on 21/Sep/07
Vegas, actually even in the pics Big Show is slouching, he looks like he towers the Undertaker still. I don't know what Danimal is thinking.
Alex, that's funny that in the poster they have Kane slightly under 7' and the Undertaker at 7', because they always bill Undertaker at 6' 10 and Kane at 7'. Really shows how much thought they put into the fudging.
Danimal said on 21/Sep/07
Vegas says on 21/Sep/07
big show didn't look so tall next to taker in 1999 because he always slouched to make taker look taller
Not the only reason. Taker WAS taller before 2001. Taller and heavier. I believe he lost the weight due to some injury and operation that SHRUNK him.
Danimal said on 21/Sep/07
Alex says on 21/Sep/07
By 2002 Big Show towered over UT.
Taker was shorter by this time Alex.
Vegas said on 21/Sep/07
big show didn't look so tall next to taker in 1999 because he always slouched to make taker look taller or his billed 6'10
Click Here and
Click Herebut when he stood up straight it was a different story completely
Click Here thats 3-4" he was losing slouching even though it doesn't seem possible.
Alex said on 21/Sep/07
By 2002 Big Show towered over UT.
Danimal said on 20/Sep/07
Big Show did not tower Taker in 1999-2000.
Alex said on 20/Sep/07
Something is wrong with Hardcore Holly's height there because he's at least 6'4 there and thats way off. The guy is no more than 6'0, if that.
The chart is so fake.
Actually UT is at 7'0 but Kane looks just under it.
topdweeb26 said on 20/Sep/07
Man that's just beautiful. They have Kane and the Undertaker both at 7', and Big Show looks to be slightly over 7', like maybe 7' 1 or 7' 2 in that poster. And since they started saying Big Show is 7', then that makes it seem like he isn't any taller than Kane or the Undertaker, when Big Show towers them just about as much as Khali does.
Big Show said on 20/Sep/07
MikeV10, that was the one I was referring to. Forgot that Undertaker was on it aswell. You can clearly see that these guys didn't pose together for that pic, but were photoshopped into one pic.
Anonymous said on 20/Sep/07
It would be great to see these height-pictures from WWE magazines... can they be uploaded?
Alex said on 19/Sep/07
Topdweeb, that poster I saw too. Its dumb. You got Kane at 7'0 like Big Show again and Big Show is at least 4 inhes taller minimum.
Alex said on 19/Sep/07
Big Show, I agree with what you just said.
I do remember that magazine. I actually have it in my collection and it has Holly at 6'4 I think. He was on a box or something to get to that height mark. Who were they trying to fool because even back then I didn't think Holly was over 6'2. Really he's 5'11.5-6'0.
Big Show said on 19/Sep/07
Back in 1999 in one of WWF magazines there was a height chart with Big Show, Kane, Viscera and Bob Holly on it. Big Show was just above that 7 foot mark, while Kane was IIRC 7 feet flat or just below it. But yes topdweeb, it's ridiculous how they've handled Big Show's size over the years. Even when he tagged with Kane, they still billed Kane and Big Show at 7 feet, while Big Show was clearly 4 or 5 inches taller than Kane. And Khali was only about an inch taller than Big Show, yet WWE wants us to believe it's 3 inches. WWE is never really consistant with their height listings. Certain wrestlers get billed at their real heights while others get exaggerated, making it look inconsistant sometimes.
Alex said on 18/Sep/07
Big Show, exactly. If he's billed at 7'2 he still said he was really 7'0 on tv shows more than once. Might as well just say 7'2 if he wanted to.
topdweeb26 said on 18/Sep/07
Actually on Big Show's very first RAW appearance, Michael Cole said he was 7' 1. Later one, they started saying he was 7' 2, and then all of a sudden out of nowhere, they were referring to him as just 7' flat... which I never did quite understand because he was much taller than Kane, but yet they kept saying Kane was 7'. To make matters worse, WWE magazine a few months ago, released a poster of all the wrestlers from tallest to shorts. I forgot who was the shortest but tallest was Giant Gonzalez at 8' (billed heights of course), Andre at 7' 4, Khali at 7' 3, and then Big Show, Kane, Kurgan, and a whole host of others at 7'. What kinda gets one my nerves is that since they are honest about Show's height, and exaggerate everyone else, on that poster it really watered down how big the Big Show is. Made it seem like 7' wasn't uncommon or something.
Big Show said on 18/Sep/07
Dennis Rodman once said on the Jay Leno show that Big Show was 7'2 (this was when he and hogan feuded with Luger and the Giant). In 2000 Big Show stated that he was 7'1, even though he was billed at 7'2 at that time, so if he was going to exagerate his own height, why not just say he's 7'2 instead of 7'1. What difference is that 1 inch going to make.
However, the reason I believe Big Show to never have been taller than a flat 7 foot it that when Big Show debuted in the WWF, they billed him as 7', so I seriously doubt he would be taller than that. No way would Vince bill a 7'1 Giant at 7' unless he was only going to use him as a jobber, which was hardly the case with Big Show as he already got the heavyweight title belt in his rookie year. So they had big plans for Big Show from the get-go, so no way would Vince bill him below his actual height. I'm surprised they never exagerated his height the way WCW did. If WCW could get away with a 7'4 billing, they could've billed him at 7'3 or 7'2 (which they billed him at later on) from the beginning on, 'til the day he left.
Rory said on 15/Sep/07
big show is 7 foot but in the old dayz 7 foot 1 and with 1 inch shoes 7ft2 but he is 7ft1 theses dayz xD 7ft at the lowest
Alex said on 14/Sep/07
So Luger said he was 7'1 while being billed at 7'4.
I'm not sure if Big Show was ever over 7'0. Def a legit 7'0 but now I think he may be more 6'11, that or his posture makes it appear that way.
topdweeb26 said on 14/Sep/07
Not only that, but once Lex Luger said on live TV on a Monday Nitro episode that the Big Show is 7' 1 when they were both in WCW, and that was when "the Giant" was really over in WCW and was promoted as being 7' 4.
ASC said on 13/Sep/07
Big Show once said on Conan O'Brien that he is "a legitimate 7'1"."
Alex said on 13/Sep/07
I do think Big Show may be 6'11 today but surely looked 7'0 only a few years ago.
cantstop25 said on 13/Sep/07
I think big shows 7'1" lsiting in college is legit...and the reason I say that is becasue they amke such a big deal about it, if they go out of there way in the article saying hwo huge this gusy is and that he is 7'1" etc. noramlly its legit.
when a 6'10" guy is listed at 7' noramly youll jsut see the listing on the roster....though I will agree with jason that big show is not as tall as he use to be.
Jason said on 13/Sep/07
Viper says on 13/Sep/07
''Big Show could be as short as 6-10 1/2 - 6-10 3/4 If he was listed at 7-1. Its rare but on a few occasions some college players are inflated by over 2 inches.''
There's been up to 3 1/2, actually lol. And I think Big Show's lost a tad from when he was young.
Jason said on 13/Sep/07
Guys, my only point is it doesn't prove it beyond any doubt. I'll happily concede your estimates of JBL's height look most likely to be correct to the neutral observer, and these new pics are some very nice icing on your cake ... but prove it as fact it does not.
Danimal said on 13/Sep/07
Still choosing the lowest common denominator Viper?
Viper said on 13/Sep/07
Big Show could be as short as 6-10 1/2 - 6-10 3/4 If he was listed at 7-1. Its rare but on a few occasions some college players are inflated by over 2 inches.
topdweeb26 said on 13/Sep/07
Vegas, I totally agree with you. If Jason and Viper want to argue that JBL has some type of lifts in his boots that give him an additional 4" or so (I'm compensating for what it would take to be that much taller than Coach, since Coach isn't barefooted) then the burden of proof is on them, not you or me or anyone else, to prove that they were or weren't in lifts.
And there's no way Big Show would be listed as 7' 1 at WSU if he was only somewhere around 6' 7-6' 11 (though he might be 6' 11 now)... not even a measurement in shoes could do that.
Jason: as Vegas has shown, those boots only give Show 1.5" extra, which isn't that uncommon even for street shoes. And even less when you consider that every day people getting autographs, or fans at the shows, etc, aren't in barefeet. They too are wearing shoes which give people usually anywhere from .5" to 2" of height also. So that 1.5" isn't really saying much. You act as if he is wearing boots with 1.5" soles while the rest of the world is in their socks or something.
Also he looks like he is in his wrestling attire, so this might have been at a house show or an event, which would explain why he's dressed like that. I mean, c'mon, you can tell he's in his wrestling attire. What do you expect him to be in, his wrestling outfit and then a pair of Nike's or something? Get real.
On top of all of this, Vegas had his 6' 4 friend's picture taken with Big Show. Show was clearly about 8" taller than his friend. Vegas knows how tall his friend is, and Show was in normal clothes. That there should end this debate and, in fact, makes the entire idea of Show only being 6' 7 to 6' 9 laughable.
Alex said on 13/Sep/07
Vegas, I also think the front of the shoe matters to and how high its raise. But mostly whatever heel you got its going to give you about that in height from your barefoot height. When I wear 1 inch sneakers I am pretty much an inch or just under that more taller.
Vegas said on 13/Sep/07
no slightly less, a 1.25" sole would give just over 1". Average cowboy boots have 2" heels but give 1.8" height boost.
Viper said on 13/Sep/07
Vegas, thats why I said Morgan is no shorter than 6-7 1/2 Id say. Whats JBL's listing, 6-6? If thats true then there isnt much of a chance hes a flat 6-3. I wouldnt rule out 6-3 1/2 though.
Alex said on 13/Sep/07
I get confused on this sometimes. So a 1.25 inch sole will give you 1.25 inches to your height then or just under that? Same with a 1.5 inch heel, will that give you 1.5 inches to your height?
Vegas said on 13/Sep/07
Jason; i have to say thats a very very weak argument; for a start those boots give 1.25"
Click Here and if you read on its says their boots give increased ankle support.
Why does Kareem wear big cowboy boots if he is 7 foot plus
Click Here Why does shaq wear big basketball boots if he is 7 foot couldn't he just wear flat small heeled ones??
Click HereJason how come Wight got listed at 7'1 in basketball and how come the newspapers at the time have quotes from 1990-92 like:
"Paul Wight, the biggest player in Wichita State basketball history, is transferring to Southern Illinois-Edwardsville. The 7-foot-1, 320-pound Wight, who played in 22 games for the Shockers last season"
"Ron Smith, Greg Dreiling, Paul Wight. Didn't take long to rattle off that list of Wichita State's 7-foot basketball players, huh? Yep, WSU's history with 7-foot players is very pamphlet-like"
"SHOCKERS LAND A BIG ONE JUNIOR-COLLEGE RECRUIT IS 7-1, 332 POUNDS
Paul Wight, a 7-foot-1, 332-pound center from Northern Oklahoma College, has made an oral commitment to attend Wichita State next year and play for the Shocker basketball team"
you picked 3 guys (JBL, Morgan, Wight) each with legit sporting backgrounds, each with previous sporting listings that are easy to find. Even if i never met Wight, i still wouldn't believe a guy listed at 7'1 in 1990 is really 6'7, especially with the fact he is the tallest player in the history of WSU, the same college that produced Greg Dreiling who played in the NBA and was listed at 7'1 there and at 7'1 in WSU too by the way :)
you say you have never seen JBL look so tall?? there are plenty of people of relatively known height here with him here
Click HereKane and Stevie Richards from Monday night side by side; i honestly see more than 3.5" between them
Click Here Viper said on 13/Sep/07
"'ve never seen JBL look that tall. The only debate is whether he's 6'5'' or 6'6''? I'd go along with that if you checked his boots on the night for internal lifts..."
Yep. I think there is a good chance he has some kind of lifts in his shoes. 6-6 for JBL would shock me. 6-5 would surprise me. 6-4 wouldnt surprise me at all. 6-3 wouldnt surprise me too much.
cantstop25 said on 13/Sep/07
what reason would JBL have to wear lifts?
Jason said on 12/Sep/07
Click HereWhy is Big Show in these things if he's 7'0''? Doesn't seem a likely thing to do for a man legitimately that gigantic. Wrestlers don't just wear lifts/big ass footware on TV, they also wear them to an extent out in public to help keep up the image.
Jason said on 12/Sep/07
Alex says on 10/Sep/07
''Jason, didn't you say you were coming to NYC sooner or later anyway?''
Yep. I'm not 6'5'' ... or 6'7''. :)
Jason said on 12/Sep/07
JT says on 12/Sep/07
''The only debate is whether JBL is 6
JK said on 12/Sep/07
yep JBL is 6'6''
Alex said on 12/Sep/07
Coach would be as short as 6'2 though but could be 6'3 too. JBL isn't more than 6'5.
Vegas said on 12/Sep/07
Viper says on 12/Sep/07
3 inches taller than Coach? Seriously?
yep when he stood straight he was close to 3" taller than Coach
Click Here Viper said on 12/Sep/07
3 inches taller than Coach? Seriously?
topdweeb26 said on 12/Sep/07
You can just height from far away when you draw a level line like JT did.
JT said on 12/Sep/07
The only debate is whether JBL is 6
cantstop25 said on 11/Sep/07
Im gonna hove to respectfully disagree with you there JT. Old pictures seem to indicate that Jones was taller...however if anybody could find the clip when jones and morgan debuted with paul heyman, I rememeber Morgan actually looking taller, im not saying he is but he seemed it that night, and if you watch the videos jones has at most 1.5" on undertaker.
and you cannnot judge heigth when they are so far away, morgan and show were not level, which was why the closer big show got to morgan, the more the height difference decreased. Nash was dwarfed by big show in WCW, looked like nearly 3 inches. In my pic morgan and show appear the same heihgt(though ngi show is 2 icnehs taller) on the show tough enouhg there was 2 inches between them no more no less
dave said on 11/Sep/07
Vince is 6'1'' maximum. Coach has 2 inches easy on him.
Vegas said on 11/Sep/07
the debate over JBL's height can be put to bed after last night
Click Here he is 4-5" taller than Vince and roughly 3" taller than Coach.
JT said on 11/Sep/07
I seem to recall Jones being a little taller than Morgan in the ring but no more than one inch. Jones usually looked at least 2 inches taller than Taker, whose footwear can vary greatly as we all know.
Click Here Click Here Click Here Even in the Corporate Ministry days with his huge boots, Taker did not look as tall next to Big Show as Jones did.
IIRC, Morgan did wrestle Kane in OVW so there may be a few pics of the two out there. There used to be a Kane website with pics from their match but it looks like the site was taken down.
Cantstop25, the camera was level in the pic with Big Show and Morgan.
Click Here Nash looked a little taller next to Big Show in the WCW days than Morgan did next to Big Show, so I think Morgan is around 6
Alex said on 10/Sep/07
Jason, didn't you say you were coming to NYC sooner or later anyway?
Vegas said on 10/Sep/07
great spot there canstop25. i have had that morgan and jones picture for ages and never noticed that it was tilted in Jones' favour
Click HereI rotated the photo 2 degrees; its level now
Click HereBTW in person Paul Wight is about 2.5-3" taller than Morgan. Morgan had a staredown with Samoa Joe at last night's pay-per-view after Joe's match with Christian. He looked to have 10" on the 5'11 Joe and Joe was in wrestling gear too
Alex said on 10/Sep/07
Big Show was at least 2 inches taller than Morgan. He was also at least an inch taller than Jones. Tough to say. Also perhaps Jones and Morgan wore a bit bigger footwear to come closer in height to Big Show so you never know.
cantstop25 said on 10/Sep/07
here I took the pic with morgan and jones, now morgan looks taller though I think the angle is now SLIGHTLY in morgans favor, though not as much as nathan had it originally, if this picutre was leveled otu completely I still think morgan would look taller, but that is becasue nathans head is down. All in all I think they are the same exact height.
Click Here cantstop25 said on 9/Sep/07
i just took a picture of the big show and morgan staredown and thsi is what it really looked like, notice the bottom rope is level
Click Herein the original show looked 3 inches taller but in this one they appear the same height. Though I chock that up to posture, I do think big show is 2 inches taller. THough this is all proof tht picutres can never prove height(especailly one!) which is why I though it was somewhat ridiculous that kane was downgraded a full inch becase he appeared only 2.5" taller then 6'5" ben
Alex said on 9/Sep/07
Topdweeb, that would be hilarious but I doubt that. He could be like 6'5 and think he's 6'3 1/2 though.
cantstop25 said on 9/Sep/07
good picture alex. I actually think morgan and jones look the same heihgt therre because if you look in the background you can see the sing tilted, which means the angle is in jones favor, I dont have photoshop but if somebody could fix that so that the sign is level that would be great.
topdweeb26 said on 9/Sep/07
I think it would be kinda funny if Jason was really 6' 7 but estimates himself at 6' 3 which is why he down grades everyone else.
Vegas said on 9/Sep/07
Alex; for me Morgan is between 6'8 and 6'9, he is not under or over those two figures for sure. I got a much better estimation of Morgan than other big guys like say Kane, Undertaker or Mark Jindrak as Morgan was standing in the one spot for over 20 minutes.
Jones looks in the same range, maybe max half an inch taller but no more
Click Here Alex said on 9/Sep/07
Vegas, what is your guess on Matt Morgan and Nathon Jones? I was thinking 6'10 for Jones and 6'8 for Morgan maybe or is there even 2 inches between the 2?
Jason said on 9/Sep/07
Viper says on 8/Sep/07
''Worst height estimates EVER! Don't worry Viper, you're a very closer second. "Most of the time we're on here disagreeing about an inch or so in height, but you guys are 2"-4" off of these height estimates. You might want to find another hobby."
This is rich coming from a guy who thinks Tyler Mane is 6-10, Shawne Merriman 6-4, and Andre the Giant at over 7-0 :). I think Jason is way off on Matt Morgan's height, but his estimates are pretty good overall, much more than yours LV.''
& since when are the majority always right? Bit of a logical fallacy there in his argument... lol
Alex said on 9/Sep/07
I agree with Danimal though. 6'4 minimum, 6'5 at most. 6'6 is too much and 6'3 is too little.
Viper said on 9/Sep/07
JBL is closer to the camera there Vegas.
Jason said on 9/Sep/07
Good luck in the drubbing of Namibia. I forgot they were even in it. :P We ended up getting 91 points out of Japan last night... hahaha. To their 3.
Alex said on 8/Sep/07
Nathon Jones is closer to 6'10 I'd say and Morgan is at least 6'8.
LV said on 8/Sep/07
I'll post this again (
Click Here). Jones looks every bit of 6'10" here.
Viper said on 8/Sep/07
I think JBL is 6-4 when all is said and done. But he can look even shorter. JBL being 6-5-6-6 would shock me a lot more than Jason's 6-3 estimate. You know hes getting a lot of help in his cowboy boots.
Danimal said on 8/Sep/07
6'4"-6'5" for JBL.
Jason said on 8/Sep/07
vegas says on 7/Sep/07
''i can see an ireland v australia final now :P
Jason; we are def stronger than you guys at the moment, france and the all-blacks are the only ones who worry me.
Pity we got such as tough group with France and Argentina and then New Zealand in the quarters, grrrrrrrrrrr and England (typically) get an easy passage through to the semis''
Actually, we've got a full strength side ... and a sacrificial lamb tonight in a couple of hours in the form of Japan. France, while I like them, seemed ineffective last night -- Argentina scored a well-deserved win.
Viper said on 8/Sep/07
"Foley's like 6'1 1/2'' at most and probably closer to 6'0'' there with his typical posture. JBL's probably in bigger footware and/or shoe inserts; he's got the typical buck-legged look in the first photo people get when doing so... I think he's 6'3'' FWIW."
Most agree with your estimated on Foley Jason. Though Im not surprised that LV was offended by it, lol. Hell, Vegas saw Mick at 6-3, where he is alone on that one.
Viper said on 8/Sep/07
Whats interesting to me is that Jason saw Nathan Jones at a huge 6-8. I can agree with that, and a lot of people would. Bur he only saw Matt Morgan at 6-5, maybe 6-6 at best?
Viper said on 8/Sep/07
Worst height estimates EVER! Don't worry Viper, you're a very closer second. "Most of the time we're on here disagreeing about an inch or so in height, but you guys are 2"-4" off of these height estimates. You might want to find another hobby."
This is rich coming from a guy who thinks Tyler Mane is 6-10, Shawne Merriman 6-4, and Andre the Giant at over 7-0 :). I think Jason is way off on Matt Morgan's height, but his estimates are pretty good overall, much more than yours LV.
Viper said on 8/Sep/07
No, Id actually say the lowest height you can go for JBL IS 6-3. He looked 6-2-6-3 with Charles Barkley as well. Nobody is saying 6-3 is a definite for JBL, except for maybe Jason. I think hes more 6-4 personally. Undertaker at 6-6? Certaintly.
Danimal said on 7/Sep/07
Viper, you always choose the ABSOLUTE lowest common demonitor huh?
LV said on 7/Sep/07
Jason says on 7/Sep/07
Actually, I stuck with 6'5'' for Morgan, but I've thought for a little while 6'6''. Sorry folks, can't go any higher than that for him from what I saw...
Foley's like 6'1 1/2'' at most and probably closer to 6'0'' there with his typical posture. JBL's probably in bigger footware and/or shoe inserts; he's got the typical buck-legged look in the first photo people get when doing so... I think he's 6'3'' FWIW.
Worst height estimates EVER! Don't worry Viper, you're a very closer second. Most of the time we're on here disagreeing about an inch or so in height, but you guys are 2"-4" off of these height estimates. You might want to find another hobby.
Alex said on 7/Sep/07
There has gotta be 11 inches between Angle and Morgan there but Morgan has bigger boots which are probably giving 1 inch more than Angle's so there still would be at least 10 inches difference. 6'8-6'9 is Morgan's legit height probably.
Alex said on 7/Sep/07
Even with those boots he still would have close to a foot on Angle. He looks at least 6'9 there with Angle.
cantstop25 said on 7/Sep/07
though he also had tremendous posture so that must have been what made him appear so tall. Shad from cryme tyme definitely looked a legit 6'6" chuck palumbo and randy orton both looked about 6'4", and the big surprise was cade and murdoch never really viewed them as tall, cade was just about as tall as the tall fan, and Murdoch actually looked about 6'3"-4" though I always figured him to be no more 6'2". Snitsky also appeared 6
cantstop25 said on 7/Sep/07
I was at a raw house show not too long ago, and for a while I felt like these wrestlers were not near as tall as I thought they should be. But the whole night there was one pretty tall guy in the front row about 30 feet away from me and he was in one of the best spots right at the entrance so all the wrestlers were walking right by him. But when the wrestlers walked by him I only figured him to be 6'3" compared to the other wrestlers. But I must say when I got up during intermission I saw him and he was definitelly legitimately 6'6"! There was a big fella by the name of dan rodman who was listed at 6'7" on that tough enough show, but he had an easy 2 inches maybe even 3 inches on this guy (which would put him at 6
vegas said on 7/Sep/07
i can see an ireland v australia final now :P
Jason; we are def stronger than you guys at the moment, france and the all-blacks are the only ones who worry me.
Pity we got such as tough group with France and Argentina and then New Zealand in the quarters, grrrrrrrrrrr and England (typically) get an easy passage through to the semis
Viper said on 7/Sep/07
"And if Bradshaw is 6'3'' that means the Undertaker is 6'5''. Not possible."
Id say 6-4 for JBL and 6-6 for Undertaker are definite possibilites. Ive always pegged JBL as 6-4 max. And JBL did look 6-3ish on some page with a fan comparing him to other wrestlers. JBL did not look 6-5 or 6-6 with him. Though I will say Morgan is probably no shorter than 6-7 1/2 If he was listed at 6-10 in college.
Jason said on 7/Sep/07
Morgan's in large boots there; look at the height of the front of the shoe compared to Angle's. The wearing of lifts and large footware is rife in wrestling and Matt Morgan's a guy who's gimmick is his size. You hear about wrestlers shrinking here til the cows come home, but absolutely nowhere near as much lifts... Anyway, are you watching the rugby right now???
Dave, me wake up and smell the roses and
trolling? Mate, you're the one getting fresh over my estimations of freakin' wrestlers' heights of all things lol. It's not that serious ... really! You should also take note of the rule about insulting remarks regarding others' opinions...
vegas said on 7/Sep/07
kurt angle would be struggling big time with 5'8 if Morgan was 6'6 (he would be struggling with 5'7 actually imo)
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Click Here dave said on 7/Sep/07
Jason...wake up and smell the roses, or maybe you're just
trolling. If 6'6'' is the highrest you will go for Morgan then 5'8'' would be the highest for Angle and 6'7'' would be the highest for Nash. And if Bradshaw is 6'3'' that means the Undertaker is 6'5''. Not possible.
vegas said on 7/Sep/07
A 6'4-6'5 guy getting listed at 6'10 in basketball, not a chance. Its a good job i met Morgan and talked to him, he is not shorter than 6'8 for sure. if morgan is 6'4-6'5 then kurt angle is 5'6 as there is a 10-11" difference between the two, of course nathan jones is no more than 6'4-6'5 either in that case....
Alex said on 7/Sep/07
At 6'6 I don't think he's going to get away with being billed at 6'10. Lowest he would be to me is 6'8 where he can get away with 6'10.
Jason said on 7/Sep/07
Actually, I stuck with 6'5'' for Morgan, but I've thought for a little while 6'6''. Sorry folks, can't go any higher than that for him from what I saw...
Foley's like 6'1 1/2'' at most and probably closer to 6'0'' there with his typical posture. JBL's probably in bigger footware and/or shoe inserts; he's got the typical buck-legged look in the first photo people get when doing so... I think he's 6'3'' FWIW.
Danimal said on 6/Sep/07
Big Show truly did look 7'1" in his WCW days.
topdweeb26 said on 6/Sep/07
Yeah like I said before, nothing personal against Jason or anything, but it's hard to take his estimates seriously when he's this far off.
Gollum said on 6/Sep/07
JBL is 6'6, maybe 6'5.
dave said on 6/Sep/07
Jason needs a serious crash course in how to judge height, thats brutal.
JT said on 6/Sep/07
Click Here Click Here Click Here Foley's the one in the 6'2" to 6'3" range. Jason also estimated Matt Morgan at 6'4", Nash at 6'7", Big Show barely taller than a 6'6" bodybuilder, Singh/Khali at around 6'9", Andre at around 6
vegas said on 6/Sep/07
Layfield does slouch an awful lot. Its not surprising Jason thought 6'2.5" because he barely ever stands straight. this is an excellent example, ron simmons posture barely ever changes throughout but JBL is all over the place
Click HereBTW i have JBL's pro football listing on hand and it isn't in the 6'2 or 6'3 range.
Noel said on 6/Sep/07
Wahhh !! Owwman.... i was really lookin forward to readin the articles but they need you to make an account where u need to pay... Owhh man.... can any post a separate link so that people with no accounts can read em ?
LV said on 5/Sep/07
Big Show's 7'1" listings are probably in shoes. I still don't think he's shorter than 6'11", but he's not 7'1" barefoot.
Gollum said on 5/Sep/07
Morgan is no shorter than 6'8.
Viper said on 5/Sep/07
The tallest I can buy JBL at is 6-4. Im much more inclined to beleive the 6-2 1/2- 6-3 that Jason saw than the 6-6 being thrown around for him.
Alex said on 5/Sep/07
JBL can look taller because of his cowboy boots. I don't think he's as tall as 6'6 but not as short as 6'3 like Jason thought. Somewhere from 6'4 to 6'5 but I would say he's a legit 6'5 but no more. Big Show had JBL by at least 6 inches.
vegas said on 5/Sep/07
yeah if you go right back to the first article dated October 6, 1990
it describes Wight as "a 7-foot-1, 332-pound center from Northern Oklahoma College"
All the entries describe Wight as a 7'1 center though, at least during the years he played basketball 1990-92
topdweeb26 said on 5/Sep/07
vegas: I did type in the search and I found something interesting: "Even a Giant has limits How do you threaten a 7-foot wrestler who also happens to weigh 420 pounds? It's not easy, but an insult may just do the trick. Paul Wight, a wrestler and former Wichita State basketball player who goes by the name The Giant because of his 7-foot-tall frame"
vegas said on 5/Sep/07
totally ignore those last few links, i don't know why it didn't come threw properly :(
anyways type paul Wight into the search box in this article and you will get the 48 entries going back to 1990
Click Here vegas said on 5/Sep/07
there are 48 entries in these articles, most talking about Wight during his basketball career (1990-1992)
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Click Herethe last article describes Ron Smith, Greg Dreiling and Paul Wight as the only 7 footers to ever play basketball at WSU; i found Greg Dreiling's listing here
Click Here JK said on 4/Sep/07
JBL is more 6'6''
vegas said on 4/Sep/07
morgan didn't look taller than 6'9 to me or shorter than 6'8.
Alex said on 3/Sep/07
Thing is JBL is more 6'5, but its weird because Morgan looks 6'9-6'10 to me in general. And based on that picture Morgan isn't 4-5 inches taller than JBL. JBL is known for those big cowboy boots giving 2 inches of height at least.
topdweeb26 said on 3/Sep/07
Morgan does seem a lot taller than JBL.. Big Show has to be a legit 7-footer. The only way he's not is if someone can argue that JBL is less than 6' 6, which I have seen him in real life before, and he does seem to be about that size.
JT said on 3/Sep/07
Very true Cantstop25.
Click Here Morgan looks around 2" to 2.5" taller, or probably around 1" to 1.5" taller since Akebono's likely barefoot there given that's how he wrestled. Akebono looks closer to the camera b/c of his huge gut. Morgan would never be that much taller if both were in comparable shoes. This gives you a rough idea how Morgan and ~ 6'6" JBL would measure up.
Click Here mike m said on 2/Sep/07
yes,but akebono was also barefoot,morgan was in wrestling gear face to face with show.
ted said on 1/Sep/07
This is true that no one has noticed that the Big Show is one inch taller than Singh.
Alex said on 1/Sep/07
The 6'7 for Big Show I thought was way too low, but with bad posture Big Show can look as short as 6'9-6'10 though while we know he's at least 6'11.
cantstop25 said on 31/Aug/07
there was once a picture of matt standing next to akebono and he was 2-3" taller no joke
dave said on 31/Aug/07
Either way its rediculous. Show towers over 6'4.5 Conan O'Brien and stacks up well with a giant like Dalip Singh. Impression is still the opinion Jason had.
Alex said on 31/Aug/07
Jason said he gave a 6'7 impression but didn't say for sure he was 6'7.
dave said on 31/Aug/07
My estimations for some of the wrestlers:
Big Show: 6'11.25 - 485
Khali: 7'1.5 - 410
Kane: 6'8.5 - 310
Undertaker: 6'7.75 - 295
Batista: 6'3 - 280
Lesnar: 6'2 - 285
HHH: 6'2.5 - 260
The Rock: 6'3.25 - 270 (wrestling days)
Booker T: 6'1.25 - 245
Orton: 6'4 - 240
Edge: 6'4 - 225
Kurt Angle: 5'10 - 220
dave said on 31/Aug/07
Big Show looking 6'7'' is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. Thats worse than Jason pegging Dalip Singh at 6'9'' after seeing him in person. Some of you are terrible judges of height.
topdweeb26 said on 31/Aug/07
I think Morgan edges Akebono out in height. Big Show was taller against Akebono than he was against Morgan. Big Show easily 4" (or slightly more) over Akebono and only 3" over Morgan.
mike m said on 30/Aug/07
akebono has been listed at 6'8".imo akebono and morgan are about the same height.
Alex said on 30/Aug/07
I've seen Big Show and Morgan have more 2 inches apart, not 3 but that picture shows a good 3 inches though.
Massimo said on 29/Aug/07
JT-
That picture with Morgan is very interesting! Now I have changed my mind, Big Show is at least 6'10". He is clearly taller than Matt.
mike m said on 29/Aug/07
if hogan is a solid 6'4" then big show in the latest staredown looks 7 inches taller. so 6'11" for big show
mike m said on 29/Aug/07
is there a pic of morgan with taker close up,i still think morgan looks more like 6'8".show 6'11" - 7'0" max.
JT said on 29/Aug/07
Big Show had Morgan by an easy 3 inches (
Click Here) (
Click Here). I see Morgan at around 6'9". Here, he has about 12 inches on 5'10" Kurt Angle though with the high camera angle, he would be a little shorter if he were closer to the camera (
Click Here). Morgan's soles on his shoes are really big but Angle's look pretty large as well. He has Angle by at least 11 inches here (
Click Here). I still think Nash, even at 47 or 48, may edge Morgan out by a shade unless Morgan has a big footwear advantage.
Frank said on 28/Aug/07
I seen about a 3 inch difference between Morgan & Show and i Believe Nathan Jones is alittle taller than Morgan
Alex said on 28/Aug/07
I also remember on Tough Enough 2 where Big Show came as a guest and was in the ring face to face with Morgan and there was only 2 inches apart no more. Morgan has stated himself he was 6'10 for Tough Enough, he could be lieing but who knows. Its Tough Enough so they may not inflate the height so he may be a legit 6'10 or 6'9 at the least.
Ghost said on 28/Aug/07
Click HereIn this video you can compare Matt Morgan with Big Show and they seem very close in height. Maybe morgan wore lifts...
I would say 6'9 for Morgan and 6'11 for Big Show today, 7' in his prime.
Jason said on 27/Aug/07
I've said many times I don't think Big Show is 6'7'', he just gave that appearance...
Jordan said on 27/Aug/07
I think 6'10 is the shortest he can be but If i HAD to bet money I would say he is 6'11.
Alex said on 27/Aug/07
5-6 inches taller than someone is a towering differnece.
topdweeb26 said on 27/Aug/07
LV: go to Youtube and type in "Akebono vs. Royce Gracie" and you'll see the fight. Jason: Even IF you think Akebono is only 6' 5, then you should get 6' 7 COMPLETELY out of your head for Wight, because it's pretty obvious he was MUCH taller than just a measley two inches over Akebono. That's uncontested as we have full body shots of them both in barefeet. Unless you want to argue that Akebono is more like 6' 3, then there's just absolutely no way 6' 7 should even be brought up as an option anymore. With that being said, you said you mistook him for 6' 7.. that's very outrageous considering how much height has on Akebono.. and this time we can't even bring up the possibility of lifts.. which means, you either did not get that good of a view of him, or you are a very bad judge in height.. and if you can misjudge someone that bad in real life.. then I can see how you can get Akebono only being 6' 5 compared to Royce.. :)
mike m said on 27/Aug/07
Lv i totally agree with you 100 percent,show is no less than 6'11",rodman who is 6'7" was 4 inches shorter,big show does have a large forehead.
Jason said on 27/Aug/07
Watching the fight now, 6'' doesn't seem unlikely by any means. They're never face to face at any point and Royce is in a lower stance most of the time they're on their feet.
LV said on 26/Aug/07
This is dumb...Paul Wight is no shorter than 6'11", maybe closer to 7' in his prime. Akebono is enormous. I couldn't find a good link to Akebono/Royce but Akebono dwarfs him and Paul Wight had 4 inches on him. Anyone that thinks Big Show is anywhere near 6'7" is an idiot. His pictures with Dennis Rodman are enough to prove that.
topdweeb26 said on 26/Aug/07
Jason: then in that case, I just don't see how you can seriously think that Akebono only looks 6' 5. He COMPLETELY towers Royce. People who are only 5 or 6 inches shorter than me, do not make me look that gigantic.
Jason said on 26/Aug/07
I have the video of the fight on my computer.
Big Show said on 26/Aug/07
If Akebono is only 6'5, than Bob Sapp is 6'1 and Brock Lesnar 5'11. Akebono towered over both these guys. If you look at his match against Giant Silva, Silva is not that much taller than Akebono. I would like to see him standing in front of Big Show, I doubt he would be taller than him.
topdweeb26 said on 26/Aug/07
Jason: No he doesn't; in their fight, Akebono completely towers Royce and they are both barefooted. He easily looks 6' 8 in his fight against Royce. And, I'm not talking about their promotional pics or anything where we don't know what kinda of ground they are standing on, or they are wearing shoes of unknown thickness. In their fight, they are barefooted and we often see them in full body shots.
Ck said on 26/Aug/07
All these people saying Paul Wight is 6'7" are crazy. The guy is just short of 7 foot. 6'11" at the least. Why can nodoby accept that the guy is that height.
Jason said on 26/Aug/07
He only looked 6-5 tops with Royce Gracie.
Alex said on 25/Aug/07
Topdweeb, right if he was 6'7-6'8 then Akebono would be 6'3-6'4 since there was a good 4 inches between them at least. Akebono is listed at 6'8 but I think he may be more 6'7, probably inflated an inch.
topdweeb26 said on 25/Aug/07
Alex: I agree, I think even 6' 10 is pushing it. But if Show were minimum of 6' 7, then that would definitely put Akebono at either 6' 2 or 6' 3 and that is just completely outrageous.
JS said on 24/Aug/07
I went to school with Paul Wight at SIUEdwardsville at the end of 1992. The first time I met him he came into the Rec center where we were playing foosball. When he entered the room he had to duck and turn sideways. The average doorway is about 6'6" to 6'8", so I promise you that he is in fact atleast 6'10" or better. Also, I am just shy of 6'2" and I played in a 3 on 3 basketball tournament against Paul in Troy, IL. He towered over me by a significant margin and could grab the rim while barely leaving the ground. Anyone that thinks he's under 6'10" must have met someone else.
Alex said on 24/Aug/07
Massimo, the shortest Big Show can be to me is 6'10.
Massimo said on 24/Aug/07
topdweeb26-
To be honest I'm confused and unsure! I remember watching a match in which Morgan and Big Show were involved and Show looked a little taller than Matt. Morgan is a huge guy and I think he is about 6'9" so I would say about 6'10" for Paul Wight. But, on the other hand, Jason has met him and think he is between 6'7" and 6'9". I also remember another guy who months ago wrote that
some big dude (a guy who was arond 6'6" 1/2) had met Big Show and thought he was 1 inch or maybe 1.5 inches taller than him. Quite confusing! IMO the pictures with Rodman are unclear ! I don't trust what WWF says, that's for sure. All I can say is that Paul Wight is somewhere between 6'7" and 7' feet, I can't be more accurate than that. I'm not sure I can believe he wears a size 18 shoe either. However, Paul Wight is a huge guy, he is at least 6'7", has huge hands and weights at least 180 Kg. 180 Kg means about 35 Kg heavier than Shaq. That's very impressive ! Ciao !
topdweeb26 said on 24/Aug/07
Massimo, just curious, but do you have an opinion on how tall the Big Show is?
JT said on 22/Aug/07
Massimo, Big Show probably would have ended up with the distorted facial features like Andre did had he not had surgery at around age 20 to remove the tumor. Big Show's head is every bit as large as Andre's, though he hadn't yet developed the overhanging brow, enlarged jaw, etc. Both had really severe forms of the disease.
Richard Kiel (Jaws from James Bond) had the surgery too but after his facial features had become distorted (the distance between his eyes widened as his skull expanded). For these patients, the surgeon operates through the nose to access the pituitary gland!
It looks like Dalip Singh (Great Khali) never had his condition treated, or at least not until after his facial features had become distorted. These patients also have enlargement of soft tissue, including in the head and neck. You can see how enlarged Singh's tongue is, which causes him difficulty in speaking. The soft tissue around the vocal cords also enlarges, which then affects the voice. Watch the YouTube video on 8
Massimo said on 22/Aug/07
Jason-
I don't know who you are talking about, but I remember that, about 10 years ago, Radhouane Charbib was a guest in an Italian TV-Show. He was 2.35 at the time (now I heard he is 2.27) and,wow,looked HUGE. He was twice taller than all the other persons in the show. He made look Fabrizio Frizzi ( the talkshow host) like... An atom. And Frizzi is not a small guy by any means, he is 6'2" or 6'3" and weights probably around 190-200 lbs. I guess Radhuane has a tumor in his pituitary gland.
topdweeb26 said on 22/Aug/07
Massimo, as JT has already pointed out, some people have more extreme cases of acromegaly than others. It could just be that Andre's was more severe than Big Show's. Or more likely, it could be because Big Show had his tumor removed at an early age, while Andre didn't.
Jason said on 22/Aug/07
You should have seen this one guy with acromegaly I saw on a TV program last year. I don't think it developed until he was like 40, the guy was 50-something years old. He was about 6'2'' and had enlarged features and big feet ... but man, you should have heard his voice. Deepest voice I've ever heard bar none -- it was absolutely unreal. He made Andre nearly sound like a choire boy. Come to think of it, I think this was in Italy lol.
Jason said on 22/Aug/07
I think there can be other sources besides the pituitary gland, but it's usually that. There's also other different conditions that cause very tall stature or acromegaly-like features. Estrogen resistance and Marfan Syndrome to name a couple. Big Show seems more normal than Andre did, but I would say it's extremely evident with him, too... lol
Massimo said on 22/Aug/07
Thank you guys for the explainations. I'm still a little confused! Is the tumor in the pituitary gland the only existing form of gigantism ? It's a quite complicated issue. Andre the Giant looked much more affected from this disease than Big Show. Big Show looks much more normal than Andre, his head is smaller. By looking at him I wouldn't even know that he has (or "had", I heard he has had a surgery) this illness. In Andre's case sadly it was evident. Thanks again.
Jason said on 22/Aug/07
They're the same thing, it's just called acromegaly when it develops in adulthood, after the growth plates have fused.
Big Show said on 22/Aug/07
Massimo says on 21/Aug/07
However it's strange the fact that all the people who have acromegaly have huge
hands and huge feet but some of them don't reach extreme heights. I mean, I have read on the Internet that Primo Carnera was legittimately measured by an American doctor at 6'5" 3/4 (even if many Italians still believe he was over 2.00) and Andre the Giant was probably below 7 feet even at his peak, not even close to a natural giant like Manute Bol. On the other hand Gheorghe Muresan is about 7'6", a full foot taller than Carnera, who suffered from the same desease. I guess there are many different kinds of acromegaly.
Acromegaly mostly develops during adulthood, while gigantism (which causes the extreme heights) develops in childhood. Acromegaly doesn't cause someone to grow any taller.
A good example of someone who has acromegaly but not gigantism is Maurice Tillet. A French wrestler from the 50's who was only 5'10 and nowadays is called "The Human Shrek", as he kind of looked like Shrek.
A good example of someone who had both acromegaly as gigantism is Andre the Giant. Look at pics of Andre when he was still a teen. He was tall but his features where still normal. When he went into adulthood he started to change very rapidly and in a matter of 2 or 3 years he changed from a healthy looking man in the person that we now all know him as.
Jason said on 22/Aug/07
Massimo says on 21/Aug/07
''JT-
Watching your picture is very hard to believe that Liston's hands were as big as Big Show's, so very likely it is not true.
However it's strange the fact that all the people who have acromegaly have huge
hands and huge feet but some of them don't reach extreme heights. I mean, I have read on the Internet that Primo Carnera was legittimately measured by an American doctor at 6'5" 3/4 (even if many Italians still believe he was over 2.00) and Andre the Giant was probably below 7 feet even at his peak, not even close to a natural giant like Manute Bol. On the other hand Gheorghe Muresan is about 7'6", a full foot taller than Carnera, who suffered from the same desease. I guess there are many different kinds of acromegaly.''
Actually, most people with acromegaly are of average height and not even tall. It's only the ones who develop the condition when in childhood or still growing that get tall/extremely tall. It depends when it occurs.
topdweeb -- that's if you believe Akebono is 6'8''. Don't mean to start any debates, just saying...
JT said on 21/Aug/07
Massimo, the people who develop the tumor in their pituitary gland at a young age (before their growth plates fuse) tend to be very tall (Andre, Big Show, Great Khali,
Robert Wadlow, Jaws from the James Bond movies, etc.) Others may develop the tumor later in life, including after the growth plates have fused. They don't become any taller but their hands, feet, brow, jaw, etc. will continue to enlarge from the excessive growth hormones. Also, some people have a mild form of the disease while others have a more severe form.
Alex said on 21/Aug/07
Big Show was 4 inches or a little more taller than Akebono.
HIs fists are actually 13 1/4 inches. Well his hands they said were.
Massimo said on 21/Aug/07
JT-
Watching your picture is very hard to believe that Liston's hands were as big as Big Show's, so very likely it is not true.
However it's strange the fact that all the people who have acromegaly have huge
hands and huge feet but some of them don't reach extreme heights. I mean, I have read on the Internet that Primo Carnera was legittimately measured by an American doctor at 6'5" 3/4 (even if many Italians still believe he was over 2.00) and Andre the Giant was probably below 7 feet even at his peak, not even close to a natural giant like Manute Bol. On the other hand Gheorghe Muresan is about 7'6", a full foot taller than Carnera, who suffered from the same desease. I guess there are many different kinds of acromegaly.
JT said on 21/Aug/07
Messimo, this comparison puts the fist size in better perspective
Click Here Liston is usually listed at between 6
topdweeb26 said on 21/Aug/07
Well it's a good thing that Akebono and Big Show were both barefooted, and in full body pics, because that there tells it all: Big Show is a 7-footer.
Jason said on 21/Aug/07
No, I'm not eating it lol. They pad all kinds of stats in boxing. If you look at the tales of the tape for the various heavyweight champs over the last century, there's some crazy stuff in there that there's simply no way of being true.
Massimo said on 21/Aug/07
Jason-
So, maybe you should put some salt on the keybord. It will be better ;)
JT said on 20/Aug/07
Here you go Massimo. (
Click Here) (
Click Here) This is about the only time they were standing straight and next to each other in the ring (
Click Here).
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Massimo said on 20/Aug/07
Da Man-
Probabaly you're right. The ones I saw weren't good pictures. I have found them in gettyimages.com . However, I have never seen a picture in which Paul Wight looked 4"+ inches taller than Rodman. Anyway, Big Show always looks taller than the other wrestlers. I would like to see him with some tall basketball player like Shaq, Yao, Mutombo or others to solve any doubt. I remember Jason saying that Paul Wight looked 6'7", 6'7" 1/2 when he met him and ,if I remember well, Jason is around 6'3", a big guy, so he could judge Big Show's height well. But, of course, this is not a proof.
Da Man said on 20/Aug/07
Massimo, you are way off. Paul Wight is easily, and I mean easily 4"+ taller than Rodman.
Massimo said on 19/Aug/07
I was watching Big Show's pictures with Dennis Rodman and Paul doesn't look much taller than Dennis. Maybe Jason is right, who knows ? When I watch (very rarely actually) Big Show's matches in Italy, the commentator use to say he is
2.23! What an exaggeration! Funny that Paul Wight has 15" inches hands, the same size as Sonny Liston, a guy who was only 1.84. Primo Carnera (6'5" 3/4) had 14". 75. Howard Cosell said once that Wilt Chamberlain had bigger hands than Sonny Liston, so they were over 15", HUGE HANDS. They used to say that Andre had 16" hands but who knows if it's true. I would pay 50 Euros to know how big Shaq's hands are in inches!
Danimal said on 14/Aug/07
Hogan was probably a legite 6'5" and change guy who rounded his own legite height to 6'6".
Alex said on 14/Aug/07
In my opinion the most accurate is that he was a legit 6'5 at his peak and now is down to 6'3. Has been for a couple years now I think.
Jason said on 14/Aug/07
In your opinion.
Danimal said on 14/Aug/07
6'5"-6'6" is what he was.
Alex said on 13/Aug/07
Yea, 6'6-6'7 for Hogan's peak is out of the question to him being a legit 6'5 at his peak I can't see someone not being able to see that though.
Alex said on 13/Aug/07
I think Hogan lost 2 inches.
Danimal said on 13/Aug/07
Oh please Top. I provided pics to prove this over a year ago of how long Hogan's were in comparison to more recent pics (after his HIP replacement and knee fusions). Too bad Rob doesn't archive old pics we provide on here. He should.
topdweeb26 said on 13/Aug/07
Danimal: If Hogan lost 3 inches between the neck and his torso, then why aren't his legs proportionally a lot longer than the rest of his body? Proportionally, his body looks the same as it ever has. Three inches is a significant loss in any section of the body without having noticeable disfigurement.
Dave said on 13/Aug/07
Taylor..... andre was never over 7' NEVER
Dave said on 13/Aug/07
jason..... there is no way on this planet A-Train in UNDER 6'4..... NO way.
I met him and im 6' barefoot... the man towered over me, he was easily as tall as my uncle whos 6'6 barefoot.
Danimal said on 13/Aug/07
Oh come on, now you're putting ALL the emphasis on his height loss having occured in his lower body and dismissing the fused neck and back surgeries, which in and of itself reduced this man at least 2" in height. Last I remembered, people did not wear their JEANS as a shirt or a tie. I question people's intelligence on here. Vegas, get a life and go outside for 5 minutes would you.
Vegas said on 13/Aug/07
topdweeb26; that is something i never even thought of. If hogan really lost 3" then none of his old clothes from the 1980s/early 1990s would fit him now (they would be waaay to big for him)
topdweeb26 said on 12/Aug/07
On a recent episode of Hogan Knows Best, Hogan got into some jeans he had since the 80s apparently, and they weren't too small for him (except that they were tight because he had gained girth since he first got the pants apparently). Goes to show that he wasn't 6' 6 or even close. I think Hogan at best was about the same height he was now, maybe an inch taller, and that's it.
Danimal said on 10/Aug/07
Goes to show how tall Hogan was in his prime. 6'6" is not out of the question.
Vegas said on 9/Aug/07
Great photos Danny K; you look a legit 6'2 or so next to Steve Corino whom my friend has wrestled and says is close to 6ft barefoot
Click HereBundy and tito santana
Click Here6'2 listed Balls Mahoney
Click HereMatt Morgan looking about 6'8.5-6'9 next to you
Click HereBig Show touching the ceiling, LOL
Click Here Danny K said on 7/Aug/07
Im 6'2 in a half,King Kong Bundy is 6,4,Trust me i got a pic with him look at it on myspace.com/bigshowjr !
Alex said on 5/Aug/07
Upper end of 6'0 would be 6'10-6'11 which would be Big Show's lowest possible height.
T-money said on 3/Aug/07
There was a picture floating around with Paul Wight standing next to a real estate agent (who claimed to be 6.2'). It appeared like near a foot difference between the two.
shiko said on 2/Aug/07
'This guy at the upper end of 6ft can get away with saying he's this height...I mean, who is gonna argue with him?'
so that means you actually see him as a 6'11?
anonymous said on 23/Jul/07
i,ve reviewed pics of big shows boots,the soles have to be 2 inches the most,they are very thick.my guess for shows height would be closer to 6'11",the shoes make him around 7'1" imo.show with average shoe 6'11.5".
Alex said on 21/Jul/07
A-Train was billed at 6'7-6'8 and for years I thought he actually did look it. Lifts probably the reason and gave an impression of a guy that tall. I've read his real height was 6'6 though. Unsure on his height but I would think he would be 6'5-6'6 legit though.
Jason said on 21/Jul/07
Jason says on 20/Jul/07
''WWF magazine, of all places, had him at 6'4'' in a 1999 issue.''
taker said on 20/Jul/07
jason why do you downsize everyone?
Jason said on 20/Jul/07
A-Train didn't look over 6'4'' when I saw him in person. WWF magazine, of all places, had him at 6'4'' in a 1999 issue.
taker said on 19/Jul/07
big show had rodman by no less than 4 inches.
Vegas said on 15/Jul/07
I dunno how that comment ended up on this page, lol, it was meant for the kane page.
Albert def looked under 6'6 when i met him but it was dark and on the busy new york street unlike all of my other meetings where me and the wrestler were always on even ground and I got a good long look at them. I was surprised how much shorter he looked than what i expected him to be (i think he was being billed at 6'8 at the time and i thought it was legit back then).
he does look 6'6-6'7 there next to McMahon though in your picture JT (is mcmahon standing straight do you reckon??)
Vegas said on 15/Jul/07
I met albert and he looked around 6'5-6'5.5" sans ring gear. That photo JT posted of albert was taken on avenues of americas in new york, march 12 2004, i know because i was there. The kane photo was taken in the parking garage of the hilton hotel new york march 13 2004, i was there for that too. The guy in the photo from what i remember was around 6'1 or maybe a little taller.
mike m said on 14/Jul/07
hogan peak 6'6" today 6'4" the man has lost probably most 2 inches.without a doubt show has him by 7 inches at least,6'11" is a fair estimate for big show.was khali measured at 7'1 barefoot or with shoes?
mike m said on 13/Jul/07
does anyone have a pic of batista and big show?
mike m said on 13/Jul/07
big show appeared to be 6-7 inches taller than hogan.
Frank said on 8/Jul/07
Duncan says he 6ft 5 but i cant see him less than 6ft 4 he was alittle taller than Conan O'Brien who is between 6ft 3isdh to 6ft 4....Actaually Bundy looked taller than Duncan in that clip i seen maybe Bundy has lifts in his boots ??
brother_h said on 8/Jul/07
duncan is 6'5
mabel looked 2 inches taller than bundy, same for hulk hogan. cept hogan was looking down an bundy was looking up.
bundy is 6'4. hogan 6'6 aswell as mabel
but viscera with those football players. looked alot taller than both of em. especially that 6'8 guy
Viper said on 7/Jul/07
Rock looks a full inch shorter than Duncan actually. Rock is closer to the camera with that angle.
Alex said on 7/Jul/07
Duncan is more 6'3 and Rock looks the same height as him or would be 1/2 inch shorter if Rock wasn't closer to the camera.
Alex said on 7/Jul/07
I think we need a Bundy page. What do you say Rob?
Danimal, you're right. He was like 2 inches taller than Bigelow who who about 6'2 himself. I think almost all here will agree that Bundy is 6'4.

Editor Rob
I'm fully aware that wrestler pages are popular, I'm being selective in adding them though.
Vegas said on 7/Jul/07
LV; you cannot estimate height from that viscera/bundy video, there could be any amount of height difference there.
duncan is not 6'4 and bundy is slighty shorter than duncan when they are level but then goes closer to the camera. When the rock stood up straight in a picture with duncan (he is leaning in all the others) they were the same height
Click Hereim gonna disagree with danimal, again lol, bundy is max 6'3. 6'6 John Studd towered over bundy in 1985.
LV said on 7/Jul/07
Great videos. Bundy isn't much shorter than Clarke Duncan or Viscera from youtube videos. If Bundy wasn't a full 6'4", I'd be surprised. No way in hell he was close to 6'2" since he was considerably taller than the 6'1" Ed O'Neil. Its no suprise that many on here want to shrink him, that way it makes Hogan, Andre, and others shorter by comparison. At least get some legit evidence before shrinking some 2" and a random 6'2" posting on obsessedwithwrestling isn't solid proof. Here is my picture of Hogan and Bundy (
Click Here) and here is a match between Bundy and Viscera (
Click Here). The height difference is the same and Viscera is no shorter than 6'6" from his pictures with Big Ben and Max Starks.
supes78 said on 6/Jul/07
Based on that youtube clip, Michael Clark Duncan and Bundy look to be around the same height. At least 6'4" for Bundy. But why the hell are we discussing his height and not Big Show's?
Danimal said on 6/Jul/07
The absolute lowest for Bundy is 6'3".
Gollum said on 6/Jul/07
6'4 for Bundy.
topdweeb26 said on 6/Jul/07
Alex: right I understand. It is just easier to believe you could have been mistaken when you were shorter back then, and didn't even see him on level ground.
Frank said on 5/Jul/07
My Movie Unit Cop Friend took a picture with Ed O'Neil and He looked about
6ft 1 and the Shortest he could be 6ft .5 Also Ed O'neil was as tall as Bo Jackson and he is listed @ 6ft 1
who is listed @ 6ft 1
Alex said on 5/Jul/07
Topdweeb, just telling you the facts or I could have lied and said I was taller then I was back then and was on level ground with him. Still the man looked a legit 6'4.
Ghost said on 5/Jul/07
Click HereHere is Bundy in "Married with Children". He is standing next to Michael Clarke Duncan in the beginning. I would say Bundy was 6'3.5 in his prime.

Editor Rob
at one time in the past...did they clone Big Daddy?
topdweeb26 said on 5/Jul/07
Jason: yeah I guess it's not that much of a stretch. I thought I had a really good point with Alex, but he just HAD to come on here and say he was 5' 11 back then and not on level ground with him. I felt like a lawyer who almost had a case one and then the person he defends just confesses the truth or something.
Frank: never seen that episode, but yeah if Ed O'Niel is for sure 6' 1, then that would be good evidence.
Frank said on 5/Jul/07
Bundy was taller than 6ft 2 for sure He was on Marrried with Children and he was atleast 2 to 3 inches taller than AL Bundy who is about 6ft 1
Jason said on 5/Jul/07
Alex said he looked 6'4''. Personally, I'd figure Bundy's maybe 6'2 1/2'' ... so it's not much of a stretch.
topdweeb26 said on 5/Jul/07
Jason: it's a moot point now, but Bundy would have had to be wearing some massive boots if Alex had been 6' 1 back then. Like so big that I'm sure Alex would have noticed if Bundy was wearing boots that were 3"+.
Jason said on 5/Jul/07
Bam Bam and Bundy only looked an inch apart tops at Survivor Series '94. Doubt he woulda shrunk then at 36.
topdweeb26 said on 4/Jul/07
Alex: you're killing me man...