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Average Guess (132 Votes)
6ft 2.82in (190cm)
6ft 2.82in (190cm)
viper said on 14/Jun/18
Merriman looks 6-2.5 with 6-6 Dominic
Merriman looks 6-2.5 with 6-6 Dominic
Andrea said on 13/Jun/18
That Dominic Breazeale guy generally gets listed at 6'7 and he does look comfortably taller than someone like Anthony Joshua, if you take a look at them together. So, if Anthony himself is just under 6'6, that guy must be at least 6'6-6'7, which actually puts Shawne near enough 6'4 there as he doesn't look more than 2-3 inches shorter than him (maybe right around 2.5 inches): Click Here
That Dominic Breazeale guy generally gets listed at 6'7 and he does look comfortably taller than someone like Anthony Joshua, if you take a look at them together. So, if Anthony himself is just under 6'6, that guy must be at least 6'6-6'7, which actually puts Shawne near enough 6'4 there as he doesn't look more than 2-3 inches shorter than him (maybe right around 2.5 inches): Click Here
Chesterfield said on 6/Jun/18
Significantly shorter than 6'6 Dominic Breazeale. Click Here Click Here
Significantly shorter than 6'6 Dominic Breazeale. Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 1/Jun/18
@Christian: Thanks!
@Christian: Thanks!
Canson said on 1/Jun/18
@Christian: I wonder how far back this goes. I had a former coworker prior to this job, that tried out in the NFL. It was all the way back in 2001 and he measured 6’5 3/8 according to the combine page but when asked how tall he was he said 6’4 7/8 to me and he did look around 6’5 as opposed to near 6’5.5 I never paid attention to it but he and I still talk on occasion and it stood out when I came on this site a few years back and looked his measurement up and remembered that after I began comparing times of day maybe last year
@Christian: I wonder how far back this goes. I had a former coworker prior to this job, that tried out in the NFL. It was all the way back in 2001 and he measured 6’5 3/8 according to the combine page but when asked how tall he was he said 6’4 7/8 to me and he did look around 6’5 as opposed to near 6’5.5 I never paid attention to it but he and I still talk on occasion and it stood out when I came on this site a few years back and looked his measurement up and remembered that after I began comparing times of day maybe last year
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 30/May/18
@Canson
Very good information
@Canson
Very good information
Canson said on 29/May/18
looks like NFL combine is early morning (1 hour or less out of bed). The senior bowl measurements are 3/8-1/2” lower. Below is 2006. The Senior Bowl measurements are early morning these days too as they align with the combine while Pro Day measurements are still lower
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looks like NFL combine is early morning (1 hour or less out of bed). The senior bowl measurements are 3/8-1/2” lower. Below is 2006. The Senior Bowl measurements are early morning these days too as they align with the combine while Pro Day measurements are still lower
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Canson said on 26/May/18
@Christian: yea I’ve seen a lot of evidence that points to him being around 6’2.5
@Christian: yea I’ve seen a lot of evidence that points to him being around 6’2.5
Canson said on 21/May/18
@Christian: yea Beast Mode would likely be a weak 5’11 being he’d be 5’10 5/8-3/4 at a low. However, for Merriman, while there is evidence of him looking close to 6’4, there is just as much of him looking 6’2, 6’2/6’3, and 6’3. His height is all over the place. To add to that, there is a measurement of 6’2, 6’2.4, and 6’4 3/8. But It just doesn’t add up to 6’4 imho. 6’2 and change is my guess
@Christian: yea Beast Mode would likely be a weak 5’11 being he’d be 5’10 5/8-3/4 at a low. However, for Merriman, while there is evidence of him looking close to 6’4, there is just as much of him looking 6’2, 6’2/6’3, and 6’3. His height is all over the place. To add to that, there is a measurement of 6’2, 6’2.4, and 6’4 3/8. But It just doesn’t add up to 6’4 imho. 6’2 and change is my guess
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 17/May/18
@Canson
You're right, Lynch's about 5'10.75" at his low. It's a good rule of thumb to deduct 3/8" from players' combine heights to find out their evening heights, although some are closer to their measurements and others much lower.
@Canson
You're right, Lynch's about 5'10.75" at his low. It's a good rule of thumb to deduct 3/8" from players' combine heights to find out their evening heights, although some are closer to their measurements and others much lower.
Canson said on 14/May/18
The absolute most he looks in this picture is 6’3” next to Kasim Osgood and Antonio Gates who were 6’4 7/8 and 6’3 1/2, both of which are presumably morning measurements.
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The absolute most he looks in this picture is 6’3” next to Kasim Osgood and Antonio Gates who were 6’4 7/8 and 6’3 1/2, both of which are presumably morning measurements.
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Andrea said on 11/May/18
Rob, here's the answer from the owner of couchscout, where he basically admits that his data aren't always reliable: Click Here
Although we can all agree that that 6'4 3/8 figure does seem too much for Shawne, I highly doubt he's ever measured as low as 6'2.5 as he looks noticeably taller than that with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that... That being said, a weak 6'4 is probably a better shout and maybe that 6'4 3/8 measurement is bit like Tim Tebow's one, who generally doesn't look over 6'2 flat, despite his 6'2.75 measurement.
Editor Rob
Rob, here's the answer from the owner of couchscout, where he basically admits that his data aren't always reliable: Click Here
Although we can all agree that that 6'4 3/8 figure does seem too much for Shawne, I highly doubt he's ever measured as low as 6'2.5 as he looks noticeably taller than that with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that... That being said, a weak 6'4 is probably a better shout and maybe that 6'4 3/8 measurement is bit like Tim Tebow's one, who generally doesn't look over 6'2 flat, despite his 6'2.75 measurement.
Editor RobYeah with big datasets there will be errors. I once worked for an organisation with triple redundancy form checking and errors still existed in customer data. Some guys might surprise when they measure and if that over 6ft measurement is correct it would be more like me getting 5ft 8.6 after Busting a Gut within 90 minutes of wakening
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 9/May/18
@Canson
Agreed 100%
@Canson
Agreed 100%
Canson said on 8/May/18
@Christian: I’ve always felt that his Pro Day 6’2 1/2 may be a better Listing than 6’2” flat. If AP measured 6’1 1/2 at the combine he’s probably around a flat 6’1” at a low. Merriman imho looks 6’2-6’3”
@Christian: I’ve always felt that his Pro Day 6’2 1/2 may be a better Listing than 6’2” flat. If AP measured 6’1 1/2 at the combine he’s probably around a flat 6’1” at a low. Merriman imho looks 6’2-6’3”
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 7/May/18
Looks about 1.5" or 1.75" taller than 6'1" listed Adrian Peterson Click Here
Looks about 1.5" or 1.75" taller than 6'1" listed Adrian Peterson Click Here
Canson said on 27/Apr/18
@Viper: I doubt Smith is taller than Merriman. But agree that Smith is 6’2” at a low since he measured 6’2 3/8 at the combine
@Viper: I doubt Smith is taller than Merriman. But agree that Smith is 6’2” at a low since he measured 6’2 3/8 at the combine
viper said on 22/Apr/18
I bet 6-2 Geno Smith would edge him out. He looks taller than Merriman
I bet 6-2 Geno Smith would edge him out. He looks taller than Merriman
Canson said on 20/Apr/18
@Viper:
To be perfectly honest, that really doesn’t tell us that he’s 6’2. It just says that, provided he did not grow from the time he graduated high school until the end of his Sophomore year, that he is not 6’4”. It is, of course, possible that he grew, but less likely once someone hits 18 or 19. I do see your point, to a degree, if what you are saying is that College Football lists players in shoes. However, there are some that aren’t listed in shoes, as well. I’m not disagreeing that Merriman could still be 6’2” range, because that is a possibility. I’m only saying that that isn’t enough to say he’s only 6’2” because his listed height was reduced, on paper, from the time he graduated high school until he was about 20, because that could also mean that he’s 6’3” barefoot, as well
@Viper:
To be perfectly honest, that really doesn’t tell us that he’s 6’2. It just says that, provided he did not grow from the time he graduated high school until the end of his Sophomore year, that he is not 6’4”. It is, of course, possible that he grew, but less likely once someone hits 18 or 19. I do see your point, to a degree, if what you are saying is that College Football lists players in shoes. However, there are some that aren’t listed in shoes, as well. I’m not disagreeing that Merriman could still be 6’2” range, because that is a possibility. I’m only saying that that isn’t enough to say he’s only 6’2” because his listed height was reduced, on paper, from the time he graduated high school until he was about 20, because that could also mean that he’s 6’3” barefoot, as well
Canson said on 20/Apr/18
@Viper:
To be perfectly honest, that really doesn’t tell us that he’s 6’2. It just says that, provided he did not grow from the time he graduated high school until the end of his Sophomore year, that he is not 6’4”. It is, of course, possible that he grew, but less likely once someone hits 18 or 19. I do see your point, to a degree, of what you are saying is that College Football lists players in shoes. However, there are some that aren’t listed in shoes, as well. I’m not disagreeing that Merriman could still be 6’2” range, because that is a possibility. I’m only saying that that isn’t enough to say he’s only 6’2” because his listed height was reduced, on paper, from the time he graduated high school until he was about 20, because that could also mean that he’s 6’3” barefoot, as well
@Viper:
To be perfectly honest, that really doesn’t tell us that he’s 6’2. It just says that, provided he did not grow from the time he graduated high school until the end of his Sophomore year, that he is not 6’4”. It is, of course, possible that he grew, but less likely once someone hits 18 or 19. I do see your point, to a degree, of what you are saying is that College Football lists players in shoes. However, there are some that aren’t listed in shoes, as well. I’m not disagreeing that Merriman could still be 6’2” range, because that is a possibility. I’m only saying that that isn’t enough to say he’s only 6’2” because his listed height was reduced, on paper, from the time he graduated high school until he was about 20, because that could also mean that he’s 6’3” barefoot, as well
viper said on 19/Apr/18
No need to measure Merriman Rob. Already measured at 6-2.4
No need to measure Merriman Rob. Already measured at 6-2.4
Canson said on 19/Apr/18
@Viper: that comment where I said @Merriman was actually a post to you
@Viper: that comment where I said @Merriman was actually a post to you
viper said on 19/Apr/18
Merriman was listed at 6-3 his first 2 years. He was listed at 6-4 in high school, at least his last 2 years.
Common sense tells you hes 6-2
Merriman was listed at 6-3 his first 2 years. He was listed at 6-4 in high school, at least his last 2 years.
Common sense tells you hes 6-2
Canson said on 18/Apr/18
@Andrea: and you call Moe a genuine guy when he not only insulted both Bobby and me but also Joe and several others over the years who have not agreed with him. But that should be expected from you because you’re cut from the same cloth. You do the same thing, which is why you accuse me of doing it knowing that you do. Then you go and try to find posts of disagreements I’ve had like that is supposed to be pertinent information in this discussion about Merriman? Lol. Just like Christian said in the Khodjoe argument. If you don’t like someone’s estimate that’s one thing or even the way they estimated multiple celebs, but you make it personal instead just like Rampage said about you.
@Andrea: and you call Moe a genuine guy when he not only insulted both Bobby and me but also Joe and several others over the years who have not agreed with him. But that should be expected from you because you’re cut from the same cloth. You do the same thing, which is why you accuse me of doing it knowing that you do. Then you go and try to find posts of disagreements I’ve had like that is supposed to be pertinent information in this discussion about Merriman? Lol. Just like Christian said in the Khodjoe argument. If you don’t like someone’s estimate that’s one thing or even the way they estimated multiple celebs, but you make it personal instead just like Rampage said about you.
Canson said on 18/Apr/18
@Merriman: knowing how football players are overlisted on college rosters, it’s possible he was 6’2 and listed 6’3, at least when he began his college career at Maryland. Now him growing over the course of his career is unlikely but not unheard of. Nor is the possibility he grew from the time he committed. There’s always a possibility his listing was never changed. However, I did see a 6’4” listing at least a handful of times at Maryland for him and never a 6’2” listing. I can recall 6’3” but it’s been so long I can’t remember exactly what he was officially listed at
@Merriman: knowing how football players are overlisted on college rosters, it’s possible he was 6’2 and listed 6’3, at least when he began his college career at Maryland. Now him growing over the course of his career is unlikely but not unheard of. Nor is the possibility he grew from the time he committed. There’s always a possibility his listing was never changed. However, I did see a 6’4” listing at least a handful of times at Maryland for him and never a 6’2” listing. I can recall 6’3” but it’s been so long I can’t remember exactly what he was officially listed at
Canson said on 18/Apr/18
@Andrea: go to Derek Theler’s page on 23 March 2016. That’s where Moe insulted not just me but Bobby and that was the first insult that he made against me and I simply retaliated. It’s funny you don’t mention that but that doesn’t surprise me. Because as Christian and I both said you use any evidence that supports your narrative and conveniently leave out evidence that contradicts it. You can easily tell who started the argument. All I said was that I had a hard time seeing him at that. And it became “nobody cares about your height” and then that. All because I didn’t agree with his 6’6” estimate for Theler. Had I not mentioned it, he likely wouldn’t have argued or even brought it up. And I was justified in my argument back with him. And you’re one to talk because you’ve repeatedly insulted Viper because he doesn’t agree with you and this is even after he even stopped responding to you or mentioning your name in any posts. Oh but no, you don’t realize what an insult is or that you are even doing it because you have been doing it so long to people who don’t agree with you that it is now second nature to you. Please don’t respond back to me. You’re a waste of time to even talk to and a joke.
@Andrea: go to Derek Theler’s page on 23 March 2016. That’s where Moe insulted not just me but Bobby and that was the first insult that he made against me and I simply retaliated. It’s funny you don’t mention that but that doesn’t surprise me. Because as Christian and I both said you use any evidence that supports your narrative and conveniently leave out evidence that contradicts it. You can easily tell who started the argument. All I said was that I had a hard time seeing him at that. And it became “nobody cares about your height” and then that. All because I didn’t agree with his 6’6” estimate for Theler. Had I not mentioned it, he likely wouldn’t have argued or even brought it up. And I was justified in my argument back with him. And you’re one to talk because you’ve repeatedly insulted Viper because he doesn’t agree with you and this is even after he even stopped responding to you or mentioning your name in any posts. Oh but no, you don’t realize what an insult is or that you are even doing it because you have been doing it so long to people who don’t agree with you that it is now second nature to you. Please don’t respond back to me. You’re a waste of time to even talk to and a joke.
viper said on 15/Apr/18
No muscular early bloomer like Merriman suddenly grew over an inch at the end of college after being listed at 6-3
No muscular early bloomer like Merriman suddenly grew over an inch at the end of college after being listed at 6-3
viper said on 14/Apr/18
You mean his pro day
You mean his pro day
Andrea said on 14/Apr/18
Wow, that's all you got? “your bad English, your bad estimating skills”, what a big insult that is. As I said, you're so used to insulting any poster that disagrees with you that you don't even recognize what an insult is anymore. One thing is calling someone's estimates bad, another thing is going personal and insulting people like you often do. Funny how you don't even realize that. Same thing with moe. Sure, I said he lost credibility when he said that Tom Welling looked no more than 6'2 in person, but I've never insulted him. Just like he never insulted you. You did, though. Just because you didn't agree with him, again. I certainly find hard to buy some of his estimates, but to be fair to him, he does seem a genuine guy and certainly a lot more mature than you. How pathetic it is to bring up his job and saying that he's unemployed just because you don't agree with his estimates. You must have a really sad life to do that, constantly. And a lot of issues, of course.
As for the rest, lost cause probably doesn't even cover it...
P.S. Nice English, again! 😊
Wow, that's all you got? “your bad English, your bad estimating skills”, what a big insult that is. As I said, you're so used to insulting any poster that disagrees with you that you don't even recognize what an insult is anymore. One thing is calling someone's estimates bad, another thing is going personal and insulting people like you often do. Funny how you don't even realize that. Same thing with moe. Sure, I said he lost credibility when he said that Tom Welling looked no more than 6'2 in person, but I've never insulted him. Just like he never insulted you. You did, though. Just because you didn't agree with him, again. I certainly find hard to buy some of his estimates, but to be fair to him, he does seem a genuine guy and certainly a lot more mature than you. How pathetic it is to bring up his job and saying that he's unemployed just because you don't agree with his estimates. You must have a really sad life to do that, constantly. And a lot of issues, of course.
As for the rest, lost cause probably doesn't even cover it...
P.S. Nice English, again! 😊
Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Viper: I think even 6’3 is Better than where he is now but 6’2.5 there is evidence of that since there is a measurement of it at the Senior Bowl.
@Viper: I think even 6’3 is Better than where he is now but 6’2.5 there is evidence of that since there is a measurement of it at the Senior Bowl.
Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Andrea: 😂 you’re one to talk about anything regarding intelligence or excuses when you walk around saying Jamie Foxx wears lifts! You say anything when someone posts something that doesn’t support your narrative. Not to mention you said there was 2cm difference with Khodjoe and Haysbert and 3 with Kobe and Boris when it’s clearly a significant difference between the pics. And then did it again with Shlique Calhoun and Merriman and Wiley and Merriman. You didn’t like the pics that were posted with them initially because they contradicted your narrative so you chose your own and made an excuse why they were for some reason better? 😂 😂 your pathetic!
@Andrea: 😂 you’re one to talk about anything regarding intelligence or excuses when you walk around saying Jamie Foxx wears lifts! You say anything when someone posts something that doesn’t support your narrative. Not to mention you said there was 2cm difference with Khodjoe and Haysbert and 3 with Kobe and Boris when it’s clearly a significant difference between the pics. And then did it again with Shlique Calhoun and Merriman and Wiley and Merriman. You didn’t like the pics that were posted with them initially because they contradicted your narrative so you chose your own and made an excuse why they were for some reason better? 😂 😂 your pathetic!
Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Andrea: the same way you told 6’3” “your bad English, your bad estimating skills” and have lashed out at Viper, Christian, me of course, Bennett, and of course Rampage. So don’t continue down this path making things personal (just like rampage said you do and I agree with him). You always do this, however, when you see someone doesn’t agree with you. Wonder why that is?
And me saying what I did to all of the ones you just mentioned (funny how you had to search for all of that), was because they attacked me first. I also saw you Disagreed with Moe “saying he lost credibility” etc. that’s before he and I got into it. All I told him was that I had a hard time seeing him at that height and he began insulting me. So it’s ok for him to insult others because they don’t agree but when I respond back I’m the one in the wrong? But You are just like him tho you do it when someone doesn’t agree with you. And very childish going and looking for stuff others did in the past just like you did on Boris’s page with Christian and me. You are doing that once again here. All over the video that I posted to viper that had nothing to do with how tall Merriman was it was to make a point. And you and your comments back just because you don’t agree with something precipitated this one.
@Andrea: the same way you told 6’3” “your bad English, your bad estimating skills” and have lashed out at Viper, Christian, me of course, Bennett, and of course Rampage. So don’t continue down this path making things personal (just like rampage said you do and I agree with him). You always do this, however, when you see someone doesn’t agree with you. Wonder why that is?
And me saying what I did to all of the ones you just mentioned (funny how you had to search for all of that), was because they attacked me first. I also saw you Disagreed with Moe “saying he lost credibility” etc. that’s before he and I got into it. All I told him was that I had a hard time seeing him at that height and he began insulting me. So it’s ok for him to insult others because they don’t agree but when I respond back I’m the one in the wrong? But You are just like him tho you do it when someone doesn’t agree with you. And very childish going and looking for stuff others did in the past just like you did on Boris’s page with Christian and me. You are doing that once again here. All over the video that I posted to viper that had nothing to do with how tall Merriman was it was to make a point. And you and your comments back just because you don’t agree with something precipitated this one.
viper said on 12/Apr/18
Makes the most sense for Rob to list him at 6-2 1/2
Makes the most sense for Rob to list him at 6-2 1/2
viper said on 12/Apr/18
Well with Julian Peterson its a specific measurement of 6-5.1
Well with Julian Peterson its a specific measurement of 6-5.1
Canson said on 11/Apr/18
@Viper: just shows that the data from the site is not always 100% accurate. That could also be the case with Merriman as it was with Darnerian McCants who shows 6040 on Draft Scout but was listed 6’3” his entire professional football career. There are a host of other players that I have seen with similar discrepancies that could be added to that list if we took the time to research.
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@Viper: just shows that the data from the site is not always 100% accurate. That could also be the case with Merriman as it was with Darnerian McCants who shows 6040 on Draft Scout but was listed 6’3” his entire professional football career. There are a host of other players that I have seen with similar discrepancies that could be added to that list if we took the time to research.
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Canson said on 11/Apr/18
@Andrea: Dialectical and speaking skills of a 10 year old? I think we can agree that I write very well and intelligently. No need to try to insult someone because they don’t agree with you which is what you have done with Rampage, Christian, Viper, and me. Sounds to me like you have your own issues which is why you do that
@Andrea: Dialectical and speaking skills of a 10 year old? I think we can agree that I write very well and intelligently. No need to try to insult someone because they don’t agree with you which is what you have done with Rampage, Christian, Viper, and me. Sounds to me like you have your own issues which is why you do that
Canson said on 10/Apr/18
And that is essentially the case here because those pics you posted aren’t the best either. Not saying they’re better or worse than Vipers but they’re not enough to tell he’s a certain height when he can look shorter in several others which he does
And that is essentially the case here because those pics you posted aren’t the best either. Not saying they’re better or worse than Vipers but they’re not enough to tell he’s a certain height when he can look shorter in several others which he does
Canaon said on 10/Apr/18
Of course they can look 6’2-6’3 if the 30 pics aren’t good pics and the 2-3 are.
Of course they can look 6’2-6’3 if the 30 pics aren’t good pics and the 2-3 are.
viper said on 9/Apr/18
Johnson is clearly taller
Johnson is clearly taller
Canson said on 8/Apr/18
@Andrea: if you read my comments since this began I have said he can look multiple ranges. So for every pic you posted supporting your side of the debate, there is one that supports what Viper says. Now Viper is saying under 6’2 that I do not believe. If you remember I actually said he looks 6’3” at times or closer to it based on pics. My point that I’m making to you is that you are accusing me of doing what you’re doing here. Any pics that are posted where he looks under your argument you simply disregard or say there is an issue with the picture. There is not an issue with every pic where he looks 6’2” or 6’3. Everyone else here knows that too. There is not an issue with every pic you posted but some are not good either. That’s a fact because none of these pics is perfect. Of course there are some issues with some of the ones Viper posted and that video that I posted at the Espys was not evidence I was using. It really has no bearing other than to say that Davis doesn’t look 2” taller like Viper is saying. But this all goes back to what I said on Boris’s page to you early on that you make everything about volume. And I’m saying that respectfully. What I mean is that you say that because he looks taller in more pics (in your opinion) that those carry more weight. All I’ve said is that you could have 20 pics that show him as tall as you think and 10 where he isn’t but if those 10 are better pics than most of the 20, the sample you post is not as good. And I’m not saying 20 of yours are bad because I see you arguing that back to me. I’m simply using an example. At the same time not all of them are good at gushing height. And let’s be fair and honest here, this is a debate just like a political debate. Of course you’re going to choose pics that support your narrative which is what most did. That’s what you did. In the large post with all of your pics you don’t post any of Shawn’s (in your opinion) looking 6’2 or 6’3, you chose the ones where he looks 6’3.5+ (in your opinion) regardless of camera angle etc. if you read below I even (beginning of March or so) said on multiple posts back to you that he looks several different heights yet because I don’t agree that he definitively looks 6’3.5 like you think, I’m all of a sudden wrong. I admit with other posters I’ve jumped but only when I feel something is silly. Truly here in this debate nothing is off limits as you said it yourself his measurements are all over the place. Even though you don’t think 6’3 carries weight I think it can since there are pics where he looks 6’3 such as with Marcellus Wiley and also Shilique Calhoun (he actually looks less than 6’3” in one). That’s another example tho because you chose a different pic of them and used the perceived height diff in that pic to definitively say what it was and disregarded the pic of Shilique and Merriman that Viper posted when to be honest there is nothing wrong with the pic. But you disregarded it because it didn’t fit your argument. I’m being respectful to you in this post as well.
And what you said about me hearing or seeing something from encounters is not all true. But sometimes common sense. I actually thought he was closer to his listed height when I saw him but because he wasn’t right in front of me. So I disagreed with Viper on that initially until I saw more pics and asked someone I know who has met him that is honest about his own height and good at judging height
@Andrea: if you read my comments since this began I have said he can look multiple ranges. So for every pic you posted supporting your side of the debate, there is one that supports what Viper says. Now Viper is saying under 6’2 that I do not believe. If you remember I actually said he looks 6’3” at times or closer to it based on pics. My point that I’m making to you is that you are accusing me of doing what you’re doing here. Any pics that are posted where he looks under your argument you simply disregard or say there is an issue with the picture. There is not an issue with every pic where he looks 6’2” or 6’3. Everyone else here knows that too. There is not an issue with every pic you posted but some are not good either. That’s a fact because none of these pics is perfect. Of course there are some issues with some of the ones Viper posted and that video that I posted at the Espys was not evidence I was using. It really has no bearing other than to say that Davis doesn’t look 2” taller like Viper is saying. But this all goes back to what I said on Boris’s page to you early on that you make everything about volume. And I’m saying that respectfully. What I mean is that you say that because he looks taller in more pics (in your opinion) that those carry more weight. All I’ve said is that you could have 20 pics that show him as tall as you think and 10 where he isn’t but if those 10 are better pics than most of the 20, the sample you post is not as good. And I’m not saying 20 of yours are bad because I see you arguing that back to me. I’m simply using an example. At the same time not all of them are good at gushing height. And let’s be fair and honest here, this is a debate just like a political debate. Of course you’re going to choose pics that support your narrative which is what most did. That’s what you did. In the large post with all of your pics you don’t post any of Shawn’s (in your opinion) looking 6’2 or 6’3, you chose the ones where he looks 6’3.5+ (in your opinion) regardless of camera angle etc. if you read below I even (beginning of March or so) said on multiple posts back to you that he looks several different heights yet because I don’t agree that he definitively looks 6’3.5 like you think, I’m all of a sudden wrong. I admit with other posters I’ve jumped but only when I feel something is silly. Truly here in this debate nothing is off limits as you said it yourself his measurements are all over the place. Even though you don’t think 6’3 carries weight I think it can since there are pics where he looks 6’3 such as with Marcellus Wiley and also Shilique Calhoun (he actually looks less than 6’3” in one). That’s another example tho because you chose a different pic of them and used the perceived height diff in that pic to definitively say what it was and disregarded the pic of Shilique and Merriman that Viper posted when to be honest there is nothing wrong with the pic. But you disregarded it because it didn’t fit your argument. I’m being respectful to you in this post as well.
And what you said about me hearing or seeing something from encounters is not all true. But sometimes common sense. I actually thought he was closer to his listed height when I saw him but because he wasn’t right in front of me. So I disagreed with Viper on that initially until I saw more pics and asked someone I know who has met him that is honest about his own height and good at judging height
Canson said on 8/Apr/18
@Andrea: thanks for the compliment! You are too!
@Andrea: thanks for the compliment! You are too!
viper said on 7/Apr/18
A Merriman Hulk Hogan pic would blow up the Universe
A Merriman Hulk Hogan pic would blow up the Universe
Canson said on 7/Apr/18
@Viper: that ones not a great angle. His shoulders actually like higher than Johnson’s. But then again assuming Johnson isn’t lower than that being a morning likely
@Viper: that ones not a great angle. His shoulders actually like higher than Johnson’s. But then again assuming Johnson isn’t lower than that being a morning likely
Andrea said on 6/Apr/18
LOL, you really are hopeless, Canson...
LOL, you really are hopeless, Canson...
viper said on 5/Apr/18
Canson, how tall go you think he looks with 6-2.7 Spencer Johnson. Click Here
I think he looks just 6-1 there
Canson, how tall go you think he looks with 6-2.7 Spencer Johnson. Click Here
I think he looks just 6-1 there
Canson said on 5/Apr/18
@Viper: hard to tell from that video. People have different proportions so can’t tell if he’s 6’2” or not really
@Viper: hard to tell from that video. People have different proportions so can’t tell if he’s 6’2” or not really
Canson said on 5/Apr/18
@Andrea: lol and that’s exactly what you are doing here once again. You say “I don’t see any pictures where he looks below XYZ”. Then you say that because I don’t see Merriman as taller than Davis in your pics. Then you throw in camera tricks etc. how convenient that you don’t mention that in any pic that Merriman “to you” looks 6’3.5? lol that’s common sense though because you cherry pick and are biased and take whatever supports your narrative for each celeb. You’re a hypocrite as stated before. And at least for me I have been objective here saying that his height looks all over the place but once again if someone doesn’t “agree with you on how someone looks in a pic” all hell breaks loose on the forum. And you’re so sure of yourself too. Quite funny with Marcellus Wiley three other people have said Merriman looks at best 6’3” yet you say “on authority” that he is not. Instead, you “cherry pick” a different picture where he does look taller than Wiley and say that the pic that was posted first is no good because it doesn’t support your narrative. So really let’s cut the crap, Andrea
My pics are at a disadvantage? Yours really aren’t better. The only reason that you say they are is because you can see footwear which in some pics with certain celebs appear to be the only ones available which is what a handful of other posters do when it comes down to a pic with no ground footwear etc vs a pic with all of it shown even if there is a poor angle of the camera or if someone is leaning and that pic is used as evidence all of a sudden. So you don’t say anything about Viper’s pic that he posted (regardless of not seeing footwear etc) but yours where Davis is leaning very clearly is a good pic. And the video I posted of them at the Espys was actually not meant to say that Merriman is only this or that. Viper initially said that Davis is 2” taller and I happened to find the video and I actually disagreed with him. All I said was my opinion that the diff would be at most an inch or that they would be similar in height with one another not 2” like Viper said. Yet you’re attacking me because I posted it? It was a simple response because Viper said before “I posted pics back about 10 years ago that Davis edged Merriman by 2”. I found the pics and simply said how I felt which was disagreeing with him on it being a 2” diff
@Andrea: lol and that’s exactly what you are doing here once again. You say “I don’t see any pictures where he looks below XYZ”. Then you say that because I don’t see Merriman as taller than Davis in your pics. Then you throw in camera tricks etc. how convenient that you don’t mention that in any pic that Merriman “to you” looks 6’3.5? lol that’s common sense though because you cherry pick and are biased and take whatever supports your narrative for each celeb. You’re a hypocrite as stated before. And at least for me I have been objective here saying that his height looks all over the place but once again if someone doesn’t “agree with you on how someone looks in a pic” all hell breaks loose on the forum. And you’re so sure of yourself too. Quite funny with Marcellus Wiley three other people have said Merriman looks at best 6’3” yet you say “on authority” that he is not. Instead, you “cherry pick” a different picture where he does look taller than Wiley and say that the pic that was posted first is no good because it doesn’t support your narrative. So really let’s cut the crap, Andrea
My pics are at a disadvantage? Yours really aren’t better. The only reason that you say they are is because you can see footwear which in some pics with certain celebs appear to be the only ones available which is what a handful of other posters do when it comes down to a pic with no ground footwear etc vs a pic with all of it shown even if there is a poor angle of the camera or if someone is leaning and that pic is used as evidence all of a sudden. So you don’t say anything about Viper’s pic that he posted (regardless of not seeing footwear etc) but yours where Davis is leaning very clearly is a good pic. And the video I posted of them at the Espys was actually not meant to say that Merriman is only this or that. Viper initially said that Davis is 2” taller and I happened to find the video and I actually disagreed with him. All I said was my opinion that the diff would be at most an inch or that they would be similar in height with one another not 2” like Viper said. Yet you’re attacking me because I posted it? It was a simple response because Viper said before “I posted pics back about 10 years ago that Davis edged Merriman by 2”. I found the pics and simply said how I felt which was disagreeing with him on it being a 2” diff
viper said on 3/Apr/18
I'm starting to compare shoe sizes from these pics. Merrimans look the same as Tom Brady's size 12's. You can tell Boris's are at least 13.
I'm starting to compare shoe sizes from these pics. Merrimans look the same as Tom Brady's size 12's. You can tell Boris's are at least 13.
Canson said on 3/Apr/18
@Viper: thank you for at least conducting yourself professionally and not pouting or ridiculing when someone doesn’t agree with you or support your narrative!
@Viper: thank you for at least conducting yourself professionally and not pouting or ridiculing when someone doesn’t agree with you or support your narrative!
Canson said on 3/Apr/18
@Viper: It’s tough to tell from the angle but I would doubt at worst that He’s shorter than Merriman is
@Viper: It’s tough to tell from the angle but I would doubt at worst that He’s shorter than Merriman is
Canson said on 2/Apr/18
@Viper: one thing I will say is from the buddy who actually stood face to face that person said about 6’2ish which is similar to how you saw him. Then again I was a couple hundred feet away and really didn’t make anything of it. Assumed he as around my height and my 6’3 friend’s. My guess is he doesn’t dip below 6’2” if he’s that low at all.
@Viper: one thing I will say is from the buddy who actually stood face to face that person said about 6’2ish which is similar to how you saw him. Then again I was a couple hundred feet away and really didn’t make anything of it. Assumed he as around my height and my 6’3 friend’s. My guess is he doesn’t dip below 6’2” if he’s that low at all.
viper said on 2/Apr/18
I wonder If 6-2 measured Junior Seau told people he was 6-5 in high school when he was listed as that
I wonder If 6-2 measured Junior Seau told people he was 6-5 in high school when he was listed as that
viper said on 2/Apr/18
Early muscular bloomers like Merriman and Rock peaked in height at 14, and no later than 15.
Reminds me of the 2 oldest guys in my high school who peaked at 14 and were big dudes, the one being a runningback. They looked 30 at 16, and still look about the same now at 37.
Both Rock and Merriman looked old in high school
Early muscular bloomers like Merriman and Rock peaked in height at 14, and no later than 15.
Reminds me of the 2 oldest guys in my high school who peaked at 14 and were big dudes, the one being a runningback. They looked 30 at 16, and still look about the same now at 37.
Both Rock and Merriman looked old in high school
Andrea said on 2/Apr/18
Whatever you say, Canson. After your last comments, I'm honestly done talking to you. You have no clue about camera tricks such as camera angles and camera positions (my pictures are not better than that clip... really?) and you regularly accuse people of making excuses whenever you don't understand these things. I don't want to start another endless debate, though, so let's just end this here. From now on, I'll just ignore any comment of yours...
Goodbye Canson!
Whatever you say, Canson. After your last comments, I'm honestly done talking to you. You have no clue about camera tricks such as camera angles and camera positions (my pictures are not better than that clip... really?) and you regularly accuse people of making excuses whenever you don't understand these things. I don't want to start another endless debate, though, so let's just end this here. From now on, I'll just ignore any comment of yours...
Goodbye Canson!
Canson said on 2/Apr/18
@Andrea: you’re wrong. Davis is clearly standing worse with LT than Merriman. The picture Viper posted where he enhanced Merriman is standing perfectly with LT while Davis is leaning like he has in many of the other pics. The difference in the pic Viper posted is clearly around a 4” difference with Merriman and LT. maybe it’s 4-4.5” but not higher than that
@Andrea: you’re wrong. Davis is clearly standing worse with LT than Merriman. The picture Viper posted where he enhanced Merriman is standing perfectly with LT while Davis is leaning like he has in many of the other pics. The difference in the pic Viper posted is clearly around a 4” difference with Merriman and LT. maybe it’s 4-4.5” but not higher than that
viper said on 2/Apr/18
It's amazing how other actors say Tom Welling is 6-5 lol. I'm still unsure on his height.
It's amazing how other actors say Tom Welling is 6-5 lol. I'm still unsure on his height.
viper said on 1/Apr/18
Obviously it's not the best camera angle favoring Vernon, but you can still easily tell he's taller. You can also tell Merrimans eyes are looking UP at Vernon no question
Obviously it's not the best camera angle favoring Vernon, but you can still easily tell he's taller. You can also tell Merrimans eyes are looking UP at Vernon no question
Canson said on 1/Apr/18
@Viper: assuming the Rock is still a full 6’2 (he may be under by a hair) Merriman doesn’t have more than maybe 1/2” or 2cm on him but that’s still gonna put Merriman at at least 6’2 maybe even 189cm
@Viper: assuming the Rock is still a full 6’2 (he may be under by a hair) Merriman doesn’t have more than maybe 1/2” or 2cm on him but that’s still gonna put Merriman at at least 6’2 maybe even 189cm
Canson said on 1/Apr/18
@Viper: I’d have a hard time seeing him measure only 6’1.5-.7. A 6’2 1/2 Senior Bowl even if that were morning would make him around 6’2-6’2.25 range. It’s difficult to see him less than that to be honest. And to have the audacity to say he’s 6’5 lol. But it’s difficult to see him any higher than maybe 6’2.5-6’3 at the same time. When you met him he may not have been standing his tallest or maybe someone had an advantage or disadvantage with footwear. But I’d be hard pressed to see him less than 6’2
@Viper: I’d have a hard time seeing him measure only 6’1.5-.7. A 6’2 1/2 Senior Bowl even if that were morning would make him around 6’2-6’2.25 range. It’s difficult to see him less than that to be honest. And to have the audacity to say he’s 6’5 lol. But it’s difficult to see him any higher than maybe 6’2.5-6’3 at the same time. When you met him he may not have been standing his tallest or maybe someone had an advantage or disadvantage with footwear. But I’d be hard pressed to see him less than 6’2
Canson said on 1/Apr/18
@Andrea: when you say Merriman looked noticeably taller with too many people what about the others like Vincent Jackson, Vince Young etc. he’s clearly 2” shorter than both guys. Antonio Gates is also taller than him btw. They’re standing on level ground so I can’t see an advantage Gates would have that Merriman won’t. That sounds more like an excuse to be honest. But if you want to say he looked noticeably taller I can say he looked 6’2” or maybe 6’3 in some and between the two numbers I see more evidence of him being either of the two than 6’4. The 6’3.5 even tho he can look it I agree, doesn’t seem right if he accurately measured 6’4 3/8? He would still be 6’4” or 6’3 7/8. I think it’s more likely that he’s 6’2 range maybe not flat but the 6’2.4 could be about what he looks.
@Andrea: when you say Merriman looked noticeably taller with too many people what about the others like Vincent Jackson, Vince Young etc. he’s clearly 2” shorter than both guys. Antonio Gates is also taller than him btw. They’re standing on level ground so I can’t see an advantage Gates would have that Merriman won’t. That sounds more like an excuse to be honest. But if you want to say he looked noticeably taller I can say he looked 6’2” or maybe 6’3 in some and between the two numbers I see more evidence of him being either of the two than 6’4. The 6’3.5 even tho he can look it I agree, doesn’t seem right if he accurately measured 6’4 3/8? He would still be 6’4” or 6’3 7/8. I think it’s more likely that he’s 6’2 range maybe not flat but the 6’2.4 could be about what he looks.
Canson said on 1/Apr/18
@Andrea: it is the case. Boris has a footwear advantage on him. A canvas shoe is not as much as what Boris has on. I understand your view but you can’t say something isn’t true or isn’t the case just because you don’t believe it or choose not to believe it.
As far as Merriman and Davis in that clip I actually was telling viper that it is difficult to determine their exact difference. He was saying it’s 2” when I can’t tell. All I can tell is that they look about the same and from the view I would have to say Davis probably is the taller of the two or they’re around the same height
As far as biased, you do pick and choose what you want to believe when you say “there is no evidence of so and so looking less than....”. Your pics with Merriman and Davis really are no better than the video and to be honest I’m not seeing Merriman taller than Davis in them. Your pics are not better than the one that Viper posted to be honest other than that we can see footwear but Davis’s posture (I think everyone here will agree except you) is worse than Merriman’s.
@Andrea: it is the case. Boris has a footwear advantage on him. A canvas shoe is not as much as what Boris has on. I understand your view but you can’t say something isn’t true or isn’t the case just because you don’t believe it or choose not to believe it.
As far as Merriman and Davis in that clip I actually was telling viper that it is difficult to determine their exact difference. He was saying it’s 2” when I can’t tell. All I can tell is that they look about the same and from the view I would have to say Davis probably is the taller of the two or they’re around the same height
As far as biased, you do pick and choose what you want to believe when you say “there is no evidence of so and so looking less than....”. Your pics with Merriman and Davis really are no better than the video and to be honest I’m not seeing Merriman taller than Davis in them. Your pics are not better than the one that Viper posted to be honest other than that we can see footwear but Davis’s posture (I think everyone here will agree except you) is worse than Merriman’s.
Andrea said on 1/Apr/18
Who said that Condo looks taller, Canson? Condo does look noticeably shorter than Shawne: Click Here And he's supposed to have been measured at 6'2 1/8 on draftscout: Click Here Or even 6'2 3/8 on that page that has Shawne down at 6'2 flat...
As for Ladainian, I don't see the connection, but I don't think he looks just about 4 inches shorter than Shawne like you say. If that's only 4 inches, then the difference between Vernon and the same Ladainian is no more than 3 inches: Click Here And no, before you say that, Vernon isn't standing any worse than Shawne next to Ladainian. And, if anything, Shawne looks more disadvantaged than Vernon, considering that he looks further away from the camera compared to him!
Who said that Condo looks taller, Canson? Condo does look noticeably shorter than Shawne: Click Here And he's supposed to have been measured at 6'2 1/8 on draftscout: Click Here Or even 6'2 3/8 on that page that has Shawne down at 6'2 flat...
As for Ladainian, I don't see the connection, but I don't think he looks just about 4 inches shorter than Shawne like you say. If that's only 4 inches, then the difference between Vernon and the same Ladainian is no more than 3 inches: Click Here And no, before you say that, Vernon isn't standing any worse than Shawne next to Ladainian. And, if anything, Shawne looks more disadvantaged than Vernon, considering that he looks further away from the camera compared to him!
Canson said on 31/Mar/18
@Andrea: when you said Condo looks taller he may in fact be. Remember you also said Merriman looks more than 4” taller than Lt when with the pic viper posted (even ground) it’s abojt 4”. So not sure your pic is anymore reliable than the other one. We honesty will never know which is more reliable
@Andrea: when you said Condo looks taller he may in fact be. Remember you also said Merriman looks more than 4” taller than Lt when with the pic viper posted (even ground) it’s abojt 4”. So not sure your pic is anymore reliable than the other one. We honesty will never know which is more reliable
viper said on 31/Mar/18
That's the one I'm talking about. Even with the camera angle Vernon is clearly taller
That's the one I'm talking about. Even with the camera angle Vernon is clearly taller
Andrea said on 31/Mar/18
LOL, that clip is awful, Canson. Shawne could still be easily taller than him there and it would be impossible to tell, considering that Vernon is standing noticeably closer to the camera...
Funny how those two standing side by side pictures are not enough to tell that Shawne is taller than Vernon, according to you, but at the same time this clip is. As I said, it is certainly not my intention to start a new fight, but this is called being biased.
LOL, that clip is awful, Canson. Shawne could still be easily taller than him there and it would be impossible to tell, considering that Vernon is standing noticeably closer to the camera...
Funny how those two standing side by side pictures are not enough to tell that Shawne is taller than Vernon, according to you, but at the same time this clip is. As I said, it is certainly not my intention to start a new fight, but this is called being biased.
viper said on 30/Mar/18
Andrea, upgrading a guy by 2 inches....
Pics don't tell the whole story when he looked 6-1-6-2 up close, Cansons friend seeing him at 6-2,
Rudy Gay playing basketball with him in a charity basketball game and saying he's 6-2, different sources saying he's 6-2 along with a 6-2.4 exact.
If he was measured at 6-1.5-6-1.7 I could have easily bought that since that's what he looked like in person
Andrea, upgrading a guy by 2 inches....
Pics don't tell the whole story when he looked 6-1-6-2 up close, Cansons friend seeing him at 6-2,
Rudy Gay playing basketball with him in a charity basketball game and saying he's 6-2, different sources saying he's 6-2 along with a 6-2.4 exact.
If he was measured at 6-1.5-6-1.7 I could have easily bought that since that's what he looked like in person
Andrea said on 30/Mar/18
That's not really the case, Canson. At the very worst, you can say he looks 6'3.5 with Kobe, assuming that Kobe really is as low as 6'4.75, but overall even that mark does seem too low for him. 6'3 is BS. That being said, I don't know why you always bring Boris up, but I'm not going to start any new discussion about him with you. You think he's no more than 6'3? That's fine. As I said, I certainly don't need your approval or to convince you he's comfortably taller than that...
As for Shawne, regardless of any measurement, I think he generally can look anywhere from 6'3 up to 6'4, but 6'2? That certainly seems too low. He has looked noticeably taller than that with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that...
That's not really the case, Canson. At the very worst, you can say he looks 6'3.5 with Kobe, assuming that Kobe really is as low as 6'4.75, but overall even that mark does seem too low for him. 6'3 is BS. That being said, I don't know why you always bring Boris up, but I'm not going to start any new discussion about him with you. You think he's no more than 6'3? That's fine. As I said, I certainly don't need your approval or to convince you he's comfortably taller than that...
As for Shawne, regardless of any measurement, I think he generally can look anywhere from 6'3 up to 6'4, but 6'2? That certainly seems too low. He has looked noticeably taller than that with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that...
Canson said on 29/Mar/18
@Viper: in the video I posted of Davis and Merriman The camera angle is bad. But I could see Merriman being no taller than Davis as a best case for him. Worst case he’s prob an inch shorter. That clip wasn’t enough for me to say 2” tbh but Davis’s shoulders appear higher and he’s imho taller
@Viper: in the video I posted of Davis and Merriman The camera angle is bad. But I could see Merriman being no taller than Davis as a best case for him. Worst case he’s prob an inch shorter. That clip wasn’t enough for me to say 2” tbh but Davis’s shoulders appear higher and he’s imho taller
Canson said on 29/Mar/18
@Viper: yea it’s at the Espys but prob not the same one you’re thinking of. I posted below.
Click Here
As far as Sharpe, he may be 6’1 and change easily and could’ve had footwear advantage which is why you thought he was 6’2. I saw Merriman from max couple hundred feet and assumed he was close to me in height but then again saw James Brown up close and thought he was a fraction taller. Brown called himself 6’4.5-6’5 maybe he’s 6’4 5/8-.75 which explains why he looked a fraction taller than me
@Viper: yea it’s at the Espys but prob not the same one you’re thinking of. I posted below.
Click Here
As far as Sharpe, he may be 6’1 and change easily and could’ve had footwear advantage which is why you thought he was 6’2. I saw Merriman from max couple hundred feet and assumed he was close to me in height but then again saw James Brown up close and thought he was a fraction taller. Brown called himself 6’4.5-6’5 maybe he’s 6’4 5/8-.75 which explains why he looked a fraction taller than me
viper said on 29/Mar/18
What's really preposterous in thinking he's 6-4 is that he did not grow an inch from his listed 6-3 after his sophomore year. A fully developed guy like that similar to Rock.
Use your head. That and the 6-2 from different sources and 6-2.4
What's really preposterous in thinking he's 6-4 is that he did not grow an inch from his listed 6-3 after his sophomore year. A fully developed guy like that similar to Rock.
Use your head. That and the 6-2 from different sources and 6-2.4
Canson said on 29/Mar/18
@Andrea: he looked well under 6’4” with Kobe. He also had a footwear advantage on Kobe. He looks Max 6’3” with Kobe. And he also looked about that with michael Jordan same with Jamie Foxx. Now many of the ones you posted he can look taller but from what I’ve seen I never thought Boris was that tall. Now Shawne he can look all over. There are times he looks 6’4 or close to it in some pics prob a bunch to be honest but then 6’2” in a bunch then actually surprisingly 6’3” in many but no measurements in that range. To be honest I have had times where I could almost argue 6’3” over 6’2 at least a weak 6’3 based on appearance, but I think about the measurements where they fall
@Andrea: he looked well under 6’4” with Kobe. He also had a footwear advantage on Kobe. He looks Max 6’3” with Kobe. And he also looked about that with michael Jordan same with Jamie Foxx. Now many of the ones you posted he can look taller but from what I’ve seen I never thought Boris was that tall. Now Shawne he can look all over. There are times he looks 6’4 or close to it in some pics prob a bunch to be honest but then 6’2” in a bunch then actually surprisingly 6’3” in many but no measurements in that range. To be honest I have had times where I could almost argue 6’3” over 6’2 at least a weak 6’3 based on appearance, but I think about the measurements where they fall
Andrea said on 29/Mar/18
Canson, I don't think that Shawne looks shorter than Gates in that other picture. Plus, it's an outside picture, on the grass, so there's always a chance the ground is uneven and advantageous to either person. Look at Nick Hardwick on the right. He looks taller than Shawne, but I find it hard to believe he really is because he did look comfortably shorter than him in that famous picture with Ladainian: Click Here The other picture I've posted is a lot more reliable than that because it's taken inside, so the ground isn't uneven for sure. And Shawne does look taller than Gates: Click Here
Canson, I don't think that Shawne looks shorter than Gates in that other picture. Plus, it's an outside picture, on the grass, so there's always a chance the ground is uneven and advantageous to either person. Look at Nick Hardwick on the right. He looks taller than Shawne, but I find it hard to believe he really is because he did look comfortably shorter than him in that famous picture with Ladainian: Click Here The other picture I've posted is a lot more reliable than that because it's taken inside, so the ground isn't uneven for sure. And Shawne does look taller than Gates: Click Here
Andrea said on 29/Mar/18
Yeah, viper, too bad that Shawne's listing doesn't fit with those other ones (such as Condo's on NFL.com and Gates' and Rivers' on couchscout). Here's (one of the many reasons) why 6'2 (or even 6'2 4/8) is BS. Fake news at its finest, just like you...
Yeah, viper, too bad that Shawne's listing doesn't fit with those other ones (such as Condo's on NFL.com and Gates' and Rivers' on couchscout). Here's (one of the many reasons) why 6'2 (or even 6'2 4/8) is BS. Fake news at its finest, just like you...
viper said on 29/Mar/18
Sorry Andrea you are
Sorry Andrea you are
viper said on 29/Mar/18
David Haye looks the same next to Rock as Merriman does
David Haye looks the same next to Rock as Merriman does
Canson said on 28/Mar/18
@Andrea: to be fair Len Pasquereli is going to take whatever Merriman is officially listed as. If he hasn’t seen Merriman up close which he likely didn’t before the combine he will just take what another reporter says at face value. He isn’t going to call Merriman shorter than he is listed as I’ve nevrr heard him downgrade a listing from a combine or college listing/ maybe someone like Skip Bayless but not Len. But the 6’2” listings didn’t all come from the same site. One is 6’2” the other 6’2.4. As far as Merriman Gates and Rivers, that pic is not good because the Pro Bowl pic Viper posted Gates is about half inch (at least) taller than Merriman is. It’s not hard to believe Gates at 6’3.4 because the pic with Rivers and them is not the best to determine their heights. I would think Rivers is that height at least on a morning measurement and likely not lower than a weak 6’5 afternoon worst case. Gates however has no combine measurement but does have the 6’3.4 which we aren’t sure when that was taken but Viper has a point he did get listed 6’3 in college. Chances are he’s even lower than that but if he’s not means Merriman once again looks max 6’3 just like he has in many other pics we’ve seen here (most of these actually 6’2 range).
@Andrea: to be fair Len Pasquereli is going to take whatever Merriman is officially listed as. If he hasn’t seen Merriman up close which he likely didn’t before the combine he will just take what another reporter says at face value. He isn’t going to call Merriman shorter than he is listed as I’ve nevrr heard him downgrade a listing from a combine or college listing/ maybe someone like Skip Bayless but not Len. But the 6’2” listings didn’t all come from the same site. One is 6’2” the other 6’2.4. As far as Merriman Gates and Rivers, that pic is not good because the Pro Bowl pic Viper posted Gates is about half inch (at least) taller than Merriman is. It’s not hard to believe Gates at 6’3.4 because the pic with Rivers and them is not the best to determine their heights. I would think Rivers is that height at least on a morning measurement and likely not lower than a weak 6’5 afternoon worst case. Gates however has no combine measurement but does have the 6’3.4 which we aren’t sure when that was taken but Viper has a point he did get listed 6’3 in college. Chances are he’s even lower than that but if he’s not means Merriman once again looks max 6’3 just like he has in many other pics we’ve seen here (most of these actually 6’2 range).
viper said on 28/Mar/18
Merriman looks 6-2 max with Binn
Merriman looks 6-2 max with Binn
viper said on 27/Mar/18
I did think Shannon Sharpe looked about 6-2 from a close range. I was wrong
I did think Shannon Sharpe looked about 6-2 from a close range. I was wrong
viper said on 27/Mar/18
What Vernon video clip are you talking about. On the 2008 Espys red carpet Vernon looked 2 inches taller than Merriman with the camera closer to him.
Too bad it's not on YouTube anymore
What Vernon video clip are you talking about. On the 2008 Espys red carpet Vernon looked 2 inches taller than Merriman with the camera closer to him.
Too bad it's not on YouTube anymore
viper said on 27/Mar/18
Heres why the 6-2 is legit, because both NFL.com and couchscout have him at 274 pounds.
That paper description has him at 275. So a different source. The fake news 6-4.3 has him at 272.
Another paper has him from that same other source at 6-2 274
Heres why the 6-2 is legit, because both NFL.com and couchscout have him at 274 pounds.
That paper description has him at 275. So a different source. The fake news 6-4.3 has him at 272.
Another paper has him from that same other source at 6-2 274
Canson said on 27/Mar/18
@Viper: Andrea really doesn’t upgrade people like that. I can say that with honesty and am sure because others he doesn’t upgrade. Technically Merriman and Boris aren’t upgrades since Rob lists them at the heights he does here. If anything the only upgrade would be if He advocated them being taller than they are. I only say what I do because people accuse me (as well as you) of downgrading people here when I don’t. I just know people lie about their height. Being a 6’4” guy who does not lie about his, it is pretty clear when I can wear different footwear including flats or casual shoes on occasion and spot a difference there and still tell the person is nowhere near their claim. I mean it’s more prevalent and visible to me now because of this as I do see people claim something like 6’4 when they have more footwear on and I still edge them that’s pretty bad. Most will try every excuse in the book until either two other honest people are there or until a measuring tape is In sight and they have no way out is my experience
@Viper: Andrea really doesn’t upgrade people like that. I can say that with honesty and am sure because others he doesn’t upgrade. Technically Merriman and Boris aren’t upgrades since Rob lists them at the heights he does here. If anything the only upgrade would be if He advocated them being taller than they are. I only say what I do because people accuse me (as well as you) of downgrading people here when I don’t. I just know people lie about their height. Being a 6’4” guy who does not lie about his, it is pretty clear when I can wear different footwear including flats or casual shoes on occasion and spot a difference there and still tell the person is nowhere near their claim. I mean it’s more prevalent and visible to me now because of this as I do see people claim something like 6’4 when they have more footwear on and I still edge them that’s pretty bad. Most will try every excuse in the book until either two other honest people are there or until a measuring tape is In sight and they have no way out is my experience
Andrea said on 27/Mar/18
You wish I were, viper. You wish...
Btw, learn to read because that's not what I said! 😉
You wish I were, viper. You wish...
Btw, learn to read because that's not what I said! 😉
Andrea said on 27/Mar/18
I disagree, Canson. In Boris' case, there aren't "several occurrences where he looks under 6'4", but he basically always looks at least 6'4 with every person he appears with. That being said, there are definitely a VERY FEW occasions where you could say that fraction under 6'4 isn't impossible for him (like that picture with Kobe, in fact). 6'3 certainly is though, IMO.
As for Shawne, he certainly seems trickier than Boris because, unlike him, his height can vary a lot, BUT there are a lot more pictures where he looks nearer 6'4 than 6'2, hence why I can't buy any 6'2 estimate for him (besides the fact that I'm not even sure there is even one single DECENT picture where he can really look as low as that).
And, as I already said, I don't agree with your logic that since a person may have looked a certain mark one or two times, that means that mark is as possible as the mark they generally and more often look, or that "there are pics in either direction". It simply doesn't work this way! Look at Colin Salmon. He doesn't look over 6'3 with Rob, so there is certainly at least one occasion where he looks 6'3. Does that mean that 6'3 is as possible as 6'4? I certainly wouldn't say so, considering that he generally looks at least 6'4 in every movie I've seen of him...
I disagree, Canson. In Boris' case, there aren't "several occurrences where he looks under 6'4", but he basically always looks at least 6'4 with every person he appears with. That being said, there are definitely a VERY FEW occasions where you could say that fraction under 6'4 isn't impossible for him (like that picture with Kobe, in fact). 6'3 certainly is though, IMO.
As for Shawne, he certainly seems trickier than Boris because, unlike him, his height can vary a lot, BUT there are a lot more pictures where he looks nearer 6'4 than 6'2, hence why I can't buy any 6'2 estimate for him (besides the fact that I'm not even sure there is even one single DECENT picture where he can really look as low as that).
And, as I already said, I don't agree with your logic that since a person may have looked a certain mark one or two times, that means that mark is as possible as the mark they generally and more often look, or that "there are pics in either direction". It simply doesn't work this way! Look at Colin Salmon. He doesn't look over 6'3 with Rob, so there is certainly at least one occasion where he looks 6'3. Does that mean that 6'3 is as possible as 6'4? I certainly wouldn't say so, considering that he generally looks at least 6'4 in every movie I've seen of him...
viper said on 27/Mar/18
Yes Andrea, that 6-2.4 exact measurement certainly came from the same source. Hahaha
As usual you are upgrading another person.
Yes Andrea, that 6-2.4 exact measurement certainly came from the same source. Hahaha
As usual you are upgrading another person.
Canson said on 27/Mar/18
@Viper: Gates wasn’t invited to the combine either. Not sure if the 6’3 1/2 that Andrea found is his lowest or not but I doubt he’s under 6’3 nonetheless. He’s likely a hair over 6’3 more likely
@Viper: Gates wasn’t invited to the combine either. Not sure if the 6’3 1/2 that Andrea found is his lowest or not but I doubt he’s under 6’3 nonetheless. He’s likely a hair over 6’3 more likely
Canson said on 26/Mar/18
@Viper: you are a year or so older than me. I’m 36 myself. Been a MD fan too and a Hoyas Fan since the 80s
@Viper: you are a year or so older than me. I’m 36 myself. Been a MD fan too and a Hoyas Fan since the 80s
Canson said on 26/Mar/18
@Viper: Booth in person looked my height or maybe at best a half inch taller. It’s possible we were the same tho because at times he didn’t look any taller.
@Andrea: I agree with some of your points as well as Viper’s
@Viper: Booth in person looked my height or maybe at best a half inch taller. It’s possible we were the same tho because at times he didn’t look any taller.
@Andrea: I agree with some of your points as well as Viper’s
viper said on 26/Mar/18
In the newspapers Gates was listed at
6-3 in college
In the newspapers Gates was listed at
6-3 in college
viper said on 26/Mar/18
Not sure If Keith Booth is as low as 6-4. I saw him listed at 6-4 on a NBA draft site. I know 6-4 listed Laron Profit in the newspaper is 6-4 max seeing him up close.
I did see Keith Booth sitting underneath the basket at a Maryland game his freshmen year standing at the foul line. My dad said he looked huge. Back then at 13 believing in listed heights I would have thought 6-5. He was listed at 6-5 his first 2 years, then 6-6 his last 2.
Not sure If Keith Booth is as low as 6-4. I saw him listed at 6-4 on a NBA draft site. I know 6-4 listed Laron Profit in the newspaper is 6-4 max seeing him up close.
I did see Keith Booth sitting underneath the basket at a Maryland game his freshmen year standing at the foul line. My dad said he looked huge. Back then at 13 believing in listed heights I would have thought 6-5. He was listed at 6-5 his first 2 years, then 6-6 his last 2.
Andrea said on 26/Mar/18
Sorry viper, but the only thing that is not a coincidence here is you downgrading a celebrity... Another one! 😊
Those 6'2 descriptions (on NFL.com and in papers) probably all came from the same place that was uncorrect. I mean, that NFL.com page also lists Jon Condo at 6'2 3/8. Now it is certainly hard to believe that Shawne is 6'2 and Jon 6'2 3/8, considering that this is how they look next to each other: Click Here
As for couchscout, we've already been there. It's an unofficial site that has also been proven to be not exempt of errors. Plus, as I recently showed, the same couchscout also has Antonio Gates and Philip Rivers down at 6'3 4/8 and 6'5 respectively, ON THE SAME PAGE. Again, Shawne's listing certainly doesn't fit with theirs, considering that he looks taller than Gates and a bit shorter than Rivers: Click Here
Apart from those two sites, Merriman is listed and described as 6'4 everywhere. Click Here Here they even say: "Merriman measured 6-feet-4 and 272 pounds on Saturday and looked like his frame could handle another 10-15 pounds with no problem". And that was stated by Len Pasquarelli from ESPN.com, who I'm sure has a lot more knowledge about football than you...
Sorry viper, but the only thing that is not a coincidence here is you downgrading a celebrity... Another one! 😊
Those 6'2 descriptions (on NFL.com and in papers) probably all came from the same place that was uncorrect. I mean, that NFL.com page also lists Jon Condo at 6'2 3/8. Now it is certainly hard to believe that Shawne is 6'2 and Jon 6'2 3/8, considering that this is how they look next to each other: Click Here
As for couchscout, we've already been there. It's an unofficial site that has also been proven to be not exempt of errors. Plus, as I recently showed, the same couchscout also has Antonio Gates and Philip Rivers down at 6'3 4/8 and 6'5 respectively, ON THE SAME PAGE. Again, Shawne's listing certainly doesn't fit with theirs, considering that he looks taller than Gates and a bit shorter than Rivers: Click Here
Apart from those two sites, Merriman is listed and described as 6'4 everywhere. Click Here Here they even say: "Merriman measured 6-feet-4 and 272 pounds on Saturday and looked like his frame could handle another 10-15 pounds with no problem". And that was stated by Len Pasquarelli from ESPN.com, who I'm sure has a lot more knowledge about football than you...
Canson said on 26/Mar/18
@Andrea: in regards to Camera Tricks, I understand what you are saying but you also need to keep that in mind because other pics that are against an argument you have that can be the case as well. That’s all I’m saying
@Andrea: in regards to Camera Tricks, I understand what you are saying but you also need to keep that in mind because other pics that are against an argument you have that can be the case as well. That’s all I’m saying
Canson said on 26/Mar/18
@Andrea: agreed I think we are having a more civil discussion now and I would like to continue! All I was saying is that if there are pics in either direction (which i admit I’m guilty of as well with Boris) they have to be considered too and can’t just be disregarded. As far as Boris tho there are several occurrences where he looked under 6’4 as well like with Kobe and Jamie Foxx and some others (I only say that because you mentioned Boris always looks 6’4). Now with Merriman I have to admit he looks different heights. With Trump I think it’s a good 2” to be honest where he looks 6’2 range and you could be right maybe 6’3”. But the 6’3” is what I mentioned before when you said there were no measurements at that but there is evidence. Then he can look close to 6’4” still looking 6’2 in pics Viper has posted. You have to admit with Antonio Gates in the pic he just posted with Binn Merriman at best looks 6’3”. Gates is taller than him there
@Andrea: agreed I think we are having a more civil discussion now and I would like to continue! All I was saying is that if there are pics in either direction (which i admit I’m guilty of as well with Boris) they have to be considered too and can’t just be disregarded. As far as Boris tho there are several occurrences where he looked under 6’4 as well like with Kobe and Jamie Foxx and some others (I only say that because you mentioned Boris always looks 6’4). Now with Merriman I have to admit he looks different heights. With Trump I think it’s a good 2” to be honest where he looks 6’2 range and you could be right maybe 6’3”. But the 6’3” is what I mentioned before when you said there were no measurements at that but there is evidence. Then he can look close to 6’4” still looking 6’2 in pics Viper has posted. You have to admit with Antonio Gates in the pic he just posted with Binn Merriman at best looks 6’3”. Gates is taller than him there
viper said on 25/Mar/18
Sorry Andrea, the 6-2 on NFL.com, 6-2 in papers, and 6-2.4 on couchscout arnt a coincidence
Sorry Andrea, the 6-2 on NFL.com, 6-2 in papers, and 6-2.4 on couchscout arnt a coincidence
viper said on 25/Mar/18
Gates looks taller than Merriman there
Gates looks taller than Merriman there
Canson said on 25/Mar/18
@Andrea: I wonder if the 2004 data exists. You found 2005 and posted below. I ask because I’m curious to see what Eli measured. He doesn’t look 195cm. He’s not as tall Ben Roethlsberger. Just curious to see what he measured outside the combine
@Andrea: I wonder if the 2004 data exists. You found 2005 and posted below. I ask because I’m curious to see what Eli measured. He doesn’t look 195cm. He’s not as tall Ben Roethlsberger. Just curious to see what he measured outside the combine
Canson said on 25/Mar/18
@Andrea and Viper: to add to my last post to Viper, I can’t see the 6’2.4 or 6’2 being misprints only because there are two measurements of him at 6’2 vs only the one combine at 6’4 3/8. For Merriman being an undersized Defensive End in college I can easily see them listing him 6’4” when he was shorter. I can see a mistake there or even possibly them giving him the benefit of the doubt possibly which they do in the NBA all the time. Look at guys like Dwayne Wade he for sure does not look anything remotely close to 6’4” without shoes. I even know a scout who has interacted with him and said that he’s nowhere near as tall as Lebron james. He said Lebron himself looked 6’7” but that Wade is roughly his height of 6’2 or maybe a hair taller essentially saying as well he’d be surprised if he is 6’3” as there was a minimal difference at best. I’d also be surprised if he’s as tall as Viper looking at him. Wade doesn’t look as tall as Bradley Beal to be honest. Beal measured 6’3.25 (morning) but Is said to have grown. My guess is maybe he’s 6’3-6’3.5 today at a low. John Wall has also said before he himself Is 6’1” (probably more like 6’1.5-.75). Also know two people who’ve met Wall and both said they be surprised if he’s 6’2” or over. One is 6’3 the other 6’0”. Now with Merriman he can give off a taller impression in some pics but I would be hard pressed to have him anything over maybe 6’2.5. 6’2” like Viper says makes sense if his measurement was really 6’2.3 vs 6’4.3 as the combine is AM. But I’d say he could be a touch over 6’2 to be honest
@Andrea and Viper: to add to my last post to Viper, I can’t see the 6’2.4 or 6’2 being misprints only because there are two measurements of him at 6’2 vs only the one combine at 6’4 3/8. For Merriman being an undersized Defensive End in college I can easily see them listing him 6’4” when he was shorter. I can see a mistake there or even possibly them giving him the benefit of the doubt possibly which they do in the NBA all the time. Look at guys like Dwayne Wade he for sure does not look anything remotely close to 6’4” without shoes. I even know a scout who has interacted with him and said that he’s nowhere near as tall as Lebron james. He said Lebron himself looked 6’7” but that Wade is roughly his height of 6’2 or maybe a hair taller essentially saying as well he’d be surprised if he is 6’3” as there was a minimal difference at best. I’d also be surprised if he’s as tall as Viper looking at him. Wade doesn’t look as tall as Bradley Beal to be honest. Beal measured 6’3.25 (morning) but Is said to have grown. My guess is maybe he’s 6’3-6’3.5 today at a low. John Wall has also said before he himself Is 6’1” (probably more like 6’1.5-.75). Also know two people who’ve met Wall and both said they be surprised if he’s 6’2” or over. One is 6’3 the other 6’0”. Now with Merriman he can give off a taller impression in some pics but I would be hard pressed to have him anything over maybe 6’2.5. 6’2” like Viper says makes sense if his measurement was really 6’2.3 vs 6’4.3 as the combine is AM. But I’d say he could be a touch over 6’2 to be honest
Andrea said on 25/Mar/18
Canson, just because you aren't (or at least you don't seem to be) aware of camera tricks such as camera angles and camera positions doesn't mean that I make excuses. We've already been there, though, and I certainly am not gonna start a new discussion. If the picture is good and Shawne looks shorter than what I may think he is, I have no problem to "admit" it. For example, I am the first one who posted that picture with Trump by saying that I wouldn't have guessed him over 6'3 with him (certainly not as low as 6'2 either, though). I mean, that's a decent picture and a good example of Shawne looking no more than 6'3. As for that picture with Vince Young, I agree that Shawne can seem at least a couple inches shorter than him, but again, the camera is low and Vince's head is closer to the camera, hence I am sure he has some camera advantage over him...
P.S. Since you brought up Boris again, I must say that I am a lot more sure about Boris than about Shawne because, unlike Shawne, Boris' height doesn't vary so much, but he basically always looks the same range with every celebrity he meets: at least 6'4. In Boris' case, in fact, I am 100% sure he's comfortably over 6'3 and, as I said, I would bet all of my money on it. In Shawne's case, I would just say that it is very, very, very unlikely that he's nearer 6'2 than 6'4 because he looks too tall with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that...
Canson, just because you aren't (or at least you don't seem to be) aware of camera tricks such as camera angles and camera positions doesn't mean that I make excuses. We've already been there, though, and I certainly am not gonna start a new discussion. If the picture is good and Shawne looks shorter than what I may think he is, I have no problem to "admit" it. For example, I am the first one who posted that picture with Trump by saying that I wouldn't have guessed him over 6'3 with him (certainly not as low as 6'2 either, though). I mean, that's a decent picture and a good example of Shawne looking no more than 6'3. As for that picture with Vince Young, I agree that Shawne can seem at least a couple inches shorter than him, but again, the camera is low and Vince's head is closer to the camera, hence I am sure he has some camera advantage over him...
P.S. Since you brought up Boris again, I must say that I am a lot more sure about Boris than about Shawne because, unlike Shawne, Boris' height doesn't vary so much, but he basically always looks the same range with every celebrity he meets: at least 6'4. In Boris' case, in fact, I am 100% sure he's comfortably over 6'3 and, as I said, I would bet all of my money on it. In Shawne's case, I would just say that it is very, very, very unlikely that he's nearer 6'2 than 6'4 because he looks too tall with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that...
Canson said on 25/Mar/18
@Viper: I’m definitely not seeing a weak 6’2 with Castillo. I doubt Merriman is that low and he never really looks less than 6’2”. I can make my argument that he looks a strong 6’2” most of the time and even a weak 6’3” in addition to your argument and Andrea’s. But Castillo and Merriman look close in height to Andrea’s credit but in no way is Castillo shorter than Merriman to my eye. If he is it isn’t anything that we would be able to judge without them back to back. Meaning the best I can see for Merriman is 6’2 1/2 maybe. And Jackson being a morning measurement would put him 6’4.3 max like his senior Bowl. So Castillo likely is more like 6’2 1/4 or 3/8 too but even if we were to say that there is a camera angle there which there could be, it is not enough to say that Merriman is a full inch taller than Castillo let alone 1.5”. To me a best case is if there is a camera angle that those two could be the same height or thereabouts but it’s clear that both are shorter than Jackson even with an advantage. My point to Andrea was, in fairness, that evidence exists on both sides. His and yours both. We can’t simply negate pics or say there is no evidence of him looking 6’3.5-6’4 because there is but we also cannot hide the fact that he does often enough look the height you say he is. And in this case, the pic with Davis that you posted (in my honest opinion) is no worse than the ones Andrea posted as there is some degree of camera angle influence or posture etc in each of the 3 or 4 pics we’ve seen. So my point is that one is just as good as the next as a result. In addition, the pic with Jackson shows your point along with the one with Vince Young and the Espy video with Davis that you posted on a different page. I posted it here but not sure where it went or whether rob posted it. I’ll find it tho and repost it because it’s there on this site. In addition there are other pics where he looks 6’2”.
To Andrea’s credit tho, James Brown pic along with the one with Condo where he looks close in height with him but the other guy in the pic he looks around same. Then the pic with LT he has a point that Merriman looks 6’3.5 maybe with Osgood but with Lorenzo Neal and LT Merriman looks 6’2” range. So even in one pic Merriman can give an appearance of multiple different height ranges.
As for when you met Merriman, it’s possible he wasn’t standing at his tallest but I doubt that is going to make him 2” taller either maybe 1/2” (you said he could look sub 6’2 possibly). Also possible there was a footwear difference between you two. But I see Davis with him and it is hard for me to say Merriman is taller than Davis let alone even as tall. Davis to me looked roughly 6’3”. Despite the poor posture he exhibits in some of these pics that we’ve seen in this debate, he stood tall next to me. For comparison one of my best friends is your height. He is 60 years old as well and dips a hair below 6’3” at night to 190.3 I believe. He looks pretty much the same as Davis imho. But Davis is built better and doesn’t have the body fat he has so I could argue either way but with a 6’3.25 combine I am hard pressed to put Davis much above 6’3 (even tho with good posture he had he could look it) and to me there’s a better chance he’s under the mark than over now that I see that the combine was early morning the year he was drafted. I guessed Davis 1-1.5” shorter than me. Possible it was a full 1.5 or close but There’s always a chance there’s a footwear advantage of some sort even the slightest fraction impacts the measurement or comparison.
@Viper: I’m definitely not seeing a weak 6’2 with Castillo. I doubt Merriman is that low and he never really looks less than 6’2”. I can make my argument that he looks a strong 6’2” most of the time and even a weak 6’3” in addition to your argument and Andrea’s. But Castillo and Merriman look close in height to Andrea’s credit but in no way is Castillo shorter than Merriman to my eye. If he is it isn’t anything that we would be able to judge without them back to back. Meaning the best I can see for Merriman is 6’2 1/2 maybe. And Jackson being a morning measurement would put him 6’4.3 max like his senior Bowl. So Castillo likely is more like 6’2 1/4 or 3/8 too but even if we were to say that there is a camera angle there which there could be, it is not enough to say that Merriman is a full inch taller than Castillo let alone 1.5”. To me a best case is if there is a camera angle that those two could be the same height or thereabouts but it’s clear that both are shorter than Jackson even with an advantage. My point to Andrea was, in fairness, that evidence exists on both sides. His and yours both. We can’t simply negate pics or say there is no evidence of him looking 6’3.5-6’4 because there is but we also cannot hide the fact that he does often enough look the height you say he is. And in this case, the pic with Davis that you posted (in my honest opinion) is no worse than the ones Andrea posted as there is some degree of camera angle influence or posture etc in each of the 3 or 4 pics we’ve seen. So my point is that one is just as good as the next as a result. In addition, the pic with Jackson shows your point along with the one with Vince Young and the Espy video with Davis that you posted on a different page. I posted it here but not sure where it went or whether rob posted it. I’ll find it tho and repost it because it’s there on this site. In addition there are other pics where he looks 6’2”.
To Andrea’s credit tho, James Brown pic along with the one with Condo where he looks close in height with him but the other guy in the pic he looks around same. Then the pic with LT he has a point that Merriman looks 6’3.5 maybe with Osgood but with Lorenzo Neal and LT Merriman looks 6’2” range. So even in one pic Merriman can give an appearance of multiple different height ranges.
As for when you met Merriman, it’s possible he wasn’t standing at his tallest but I doubt that is going to make him 2” taller either maybe 1/2” (you said he could look sub 6’2 possibly). Also possible there was a footwear difference between you two. But I see Davis with him and it is hard for me to say Merriman is taller than Davis let alone even as tall. Davis to me looked roughly 6’3”. Despite the poor posture he exhibits in some of these pics that we’ve seen in this debate, he stood tall next to me. For comparison one of my best friends is your height. He is 60 years old as well and dips a hair below 6’3” at night to 190.3 I believe. He looks pretty much the same as Davis imho. But Davis is built better and doesn’t have the body fat he has so I could argue either way but with a 6’3.25 combine I am hard pressed to put Davis much above 6’3 (even tho with good posture he had he could look it) and to me there’s a better chance he’s under the mark than over now that I see that the combine was early morning the year he was drafted. I guessed Davis 1-1.5” shorter than me. Possible it was a full 1.5 or close but There’s always a chance there’s a footwear advantage of some sort even the slightest fraction impacts the measurement or comparison.
viper said on 25/Mar/18
No, Laron Profit was always listed at 6-5.
Some other site had Keith Booth at 6-4
No, Laron Profit was always listed at 6-5.
Some other site had Keith Booth at 6-4
viper said on 25/Mar/18
Antonio Gates is strange. He looked shorter than 6-3 Terrell Suggs on family feud.
Antonio Gates is strange. He looked shorter than 6-3 Terrell Suggs on family feud.
Andrea said on 25/Mar/18
Wow, Canson agrees with you, viper??? Then you must be right for sure. To be fair, Canson is the only guy on here who still takes you seriously...
Wow, Canson agrees with you, viper??? Then you must be right for sure. To be fair, Canson is the only guy on here who still takes you seriously...
Andrea said on 25/Mar/18
Unfortunately, that clip with Vernon is useless because Vernon is standing noticeably closer to the camera and it's impossible to tell any height difference (or even who is the taller one)...
Unfortunately, that clip with Vernon is useless because Vernon is standing noticeably closer to the camera and it's impossible to tell any height difference (or even who is the taller one)...
Andrea said on 25/Mar/18
Canson, to be fair, Vernon isn't standing any different than Shawne next to Ladainian. And, if anything, Shawne looks more disadvantaged than Vernon, considering that he looks further away from the camera compared to him!
Canson, to be fair, Vernon isn't standing any different than Shawne next to Ladainian. And, if anything, Shawne looks more disadvantaged than Vernon, considering that he looks further away from the camera compared to him!
Canson said on 25/Mar/18
@Andrea: but you keep saying because Rivers or Gates aren’t much taller. That’s In that particular picture they aren’t but look at Vince Young with Merriman he’s clearly 2” taller same with Jackson. There are def pictures you posted where Merriman looks the height you think he is but you can’t simply make an excuse for the ones where he looks 6’2 or negate them and say well they don’t exist. They count as evidence too. That’s why I mentioned before and agree with you that his height is all over the place even more than Boris. I think Boris could edge him out to be honest. The more I see of Boris the more I believe he’s a solid 6’3 and that Merriman could be a strong 6’2 to be honest. And Castillo doesn’t have much advantage on Merriman by the way. Look at their eye levels and their heads are similar size and look at how they stack up to Jackson. They line up to their combine measurements and Merriman lines up to 6’2 pro day and 6’2 1/2 Senior Bowl imho
@Andrea: but you keep saying because Rivers or Gates aren’t much taller. That’s In that particular picture they aren’t but look at Vince Young with Merriman he’s clearly 2” taller same with Jackson. There are def pictures you posted where Merriman looks the height you think he is but you can’t simply make an excuse for the ones where he looks 6’2 or negate them and say well they don’t exist. They count as evidence too. That’s why I mentioned before and agree with you that his height is all over the place even more than Boris. I think Boris could edge him out to be honest. The more I see of Boris the more I believe he’s a solid 6’3 and that Merriman could be a strong 6’2 to be honest. And Castillo doesn’t have much advantage on Merriman by the way. Look at their eye levels and their heads are similar size and look at how they stack up to Jackson. They line up to their combine measurements and Merriman lines up to 6’2 pro day and 6’2 1/2 Senior Bowl imho
viper said on 24/Mar/18
I'm more excited about Rob adding the only New Orleans Saints player in the Hall of Fame on here, Rickey Jackson.
I'm more excited about Rob adding the only New Orleans Saints player in the Hall of Fame on here, Rickey Jackson.
viper said on 24/Mar/18
Still can't believe Andrea thought Castillo looked shorter. No way
Still can't believe Andrea thought Castillo looked shorter. No way
viper said on 24/Mar/18
Sorry Andrea, that's at least an inch difference with Maybin and Maybin's posture isn't even as good. Merriman looks 6-2 range there and with better posture by Maybin Merriman looks a weak 6-2.
So to say Vernon is taller in the same pic when Merriman looks 6-2 range next a guy with worse posture......
If Vernon was standing next to Merriman with the same posture as him he would be looking the same height as Maybin
Sorry Andrea, that's at least an inch difference with Maybin and Maybin's posture isn't even as good. Merriman looks 6-2 range there and with better posture by Maybin Merriman looks a weak 6-2.
So to say Vernon is taller in the same pic when Merriman looks 6-2 range next a guy with worse posture......
If Vernon was standing next to Merriman with the same posture as him he would be looking the same height as Maybin
viper said on 24/Mar/18
It's funny how Andrea doesn't believe I saw Merriman up close. I'm 37 years old and have been a Maryland fan since the 80s. I've been to a million Maryland basketball and football games
It's funny how Andrea doesn't believe I saw Merriman up close. I'm 37 years old and have been a Maryland fan since the 80s. I've been to a million Maryland basketball and football games
viper said on 24/Mar/18
It's funny how Andrea doesn't believe I saw Merriman up close. I'm 37 years old and have been a Maryland fan since the 80s. I've been to a million Maryland basketball and football games
It's funny how Andrea doesn't believe I saw Merriman up close. I'm 37 years old and have been a Maryland fan since the 80s. I've been to a million Maryland basketball and football games
viper said on 24/Mar/18
Canson Merriman looks a weak 6-2 with Castillo
Canson Merriman looks a weak 6-2 with Castillo
viper said on 24/Mar/18
Andrea, that was such a great try that Canson agrees with me
Andrea, that was such a great try that Canson agrees with me
Canson said on 24/Mar/18
With Ray Lewis he definitely doesn’t look over 6’2.5 maybe. He also has a footwear advantage in one pic and a camera advantage even then Ray is well above his eyebrows. In the other pic it’s about 6’2. Ray has 1 listing of 6’0 5/8 and looks no taller than Trump. Likely 6’0.5-.75 zone
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With Ray Lewis he definitely doesn’t look over 6’2.5 maybe. He also has a footwear advantage in one pic and a camera advantage even then Ray is well above his eyebrows. In the other pic it’s about 6’2. Ray has 1 listing of 6’0 5/8 and looks no taller than Trump. Likely 6’0.5-.75 zone
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Canson said on 24/Mar/18
@Andrea: that’s correct and I agree but Vernon davis is clearly not standing straight with Tomlinson. That’s as obvious as you get. If we were to negate some of Viper’s pictures then we should not use these two comparisons of the two because it’s not much better if at all
@Andrea: that’s correct and I agree but Vernon davis is clearly not standing straight with Tomlinson. That’s as obvious as you get. If we were to negate some of Viper’s pictures then we should not use these two comparisons of the two because it’s not much better if at all
Canson said on 24/Mar/18
@Viper: I sure do! Wasn’t he listed at 6’6 when he played? At least at one point? Yea I thought he was a legit 6’5” guy. I’ve actually balled with keith Booth before. He’s listed as 6’6” but in reality isn’t noticeably taller than me. Maybe 195cm (6’4.75) but I wouldn’t go much higher than that (1/2”) on me. He could also be 6’4.5 honestly because I felt at times we were the same height and I couldn’t tell 1/4” diff
@Viper: I sure do! Wasn’t he listed at 6’6 when he played? At least at one point? Yea I thought he was a legit 6’5” guy. I’ve actually balled with keith Booth before. He’s listed as 6’6” but in reality isn’t noticeably taller than me. Maybe 195cm (6’4.75) but I wouldn’t go much higher than that (1/2”) on me. He could also be 6’4.5 honestly because I felt at times we were the same height and I couldn’t tell 1/4” diff
Andrea said on 24/Mar/18
I couldn't find any draftscout measurement for him, but this Antonio Gates guy is supposed to have been measured at 6'3 4/8 on couchscout: Click Here Click Here
Funny how, according to couchscout, Gates is supposed to have been measured at 6'3 4/8, Philip Rivers (the guy on the right) at 6'5... and Shawne at 6'2 4/8! This goes to show that that 6'2 4/8 figure must have been a typo or something, considering that there's simply no way that Shawne is 1 inch shorter than Gates and 2.5 inches shorter than Rivers.
I couldn't find any draftscout measurement for him, but this Antonio Gates guy is supposed to have been measured at 6'3 4/8 on couchscout: Click Here Click Here
Funny how, according to couchscout, Gates is supposed to have been measured at 6'3 4/8, Philip Rivers (the guy on the right) at 6'5... and Shawne at 6'2 4/8! This goes to show that that 6'2 4/8 figure must have been a typo or something, considering that there's simply no way that Shawne is 1 inch shorter than Gates and 2.5 inches shorter than Rivers.
Andrea said on 24/Mar/18
Well, me, on the other hand, I think that Shawne is taller than Vernon. And I'm not just saying that because I want to say that (or because I think that he looks "physically taller", which admittedly makes no sense), but I have a good reason for thinking that way: 2 good pictures where Shawne looks easily taller.
As for that picture with Castillo and Jackson, the camera angle plays a big role in it, so I don't see how you can say "regardless of camera angle". I agree that Jackson would still be taller taller than Shawne, but I'm sure the difference would be less than how it appears there. The same goes for Castillo.
Well, me, on the other hand, I think that Shawne is taller than Vernon. And I'm not just saying that because I want to say that (or because I think that he looks "physically taller", which admittedly makes no sense), but I have a good reason for thinking that way: 2 good pictures where Shawne looks easily taller.
As for that picture with Castillo and Jackson, the camera angle plays a big role in it, so I don't see how you can say "regardless of camera angle". I agree that Jackson would still be taller taller than Shawne, but I'm sure the difference would be less than how it appears there. The same goes for Castillo.
viper said on 24/Mar/18
Canson do you remember Laron Profit playing basketball for Maryland in the 90s. I thought he was the one legit listed 6-5 until I saw him up close at a Maryland game a few years ago. He looked no more than 6-4 and I was surprised.
Then I see he was listed at 6-4 before the draft.
Canson do you remember Laron Profit playing basketball for Maryland in the 90s. I thought he was the one legit listed 6-5 until I saw him up close at a Maryland game a few years ago. He looked no more than 6-4 and I was surprised.
Then I see he was listed at 6-4 before the draft.
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Viper: I have to agree Merriman isn’t looking anything over 6’2” or 6’2.5 with Trump
@Viper: I have to agree Merriman isn’t looking anything over 6’2” or 6’2.5 with Trump
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Viper and Andrea: this is the video you were prob talking about Viper. Sure Davis is closer to the camera but Merriman is definitely not taller than he is. I would think Davis is but not sure they could be about the same
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@Viper and Andrea: this is the video you were prob talking about Viper. Sure Davis is closer to the camera but Merriman is definitely not taller than he is. I would think Davis is but not sure they could be about the same
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Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Andrea: An aged Steven seagal with Him. Seagal is likely under 6’4 today and still is taller even with his head tilted somewhat
@Andrea: An aged Steven seagal with Him. Seagal is likely under 6’4 today and still is taller even with his head tilted somewhat
viper said on 23/Mar/18
Couchscout has Martavis Bryant at 6-3.4
Couchscout has Martavis Bryant at 6-3.4
Andrea said on 23/Mar/18
LOL, if anything, that picture should rule out any chance of 6'2 for Shawne, considering that he looks comfortably taller than Vernon and quite close to Aaron. Nice try though, viper. Nice try...
LOL, if anything, that picture should rule out any chance of 6'2 for Shawne, considering that he looks comfortably taller than Vernon and quite close to Aaron. Nice try though, viper. Nice try...
Andrea said on 23/Mar/18
Canson, if Shawne looks only 6'2 with Ladainian, then Vernon looks no more than 6'1...
Canson, if Shawne looks only 6'2 with Ladainian, then Vernon looks no more than 6'1...
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Viper: Maybin’s combine is actually 6’3.6 (3/4). Meaning he’s probably not that tall really because it’s morning so I would go with 6’3 3/8 esp since he got one at 6’3 7/8 (from what you’re saying). Still same result if he’s got Shawne by an inch that makes Merriman around 6’2 3/8 prob
@Viper: Maybin’s combine is actually 6’3.6 (3/4). Meaning he’s probably not that tall really because it’s morning so I would go with 6’3 3/8 esp since he got one at 6’3 7/8 (from what you’re saying). Still same result if he’s got Shawne by an inch that makes Merriman around 6’2 3/8 prob
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Andrea: I respect your opinion. I don’t think Davis is shorter than Merriman on the other hand. I would have him slightly taller. Jackson does look taller regardless of camera angle. You see Castillo next to both guys and they look (minus Merriman) what their combines would be in the AM. Meaning Castillo and Jackson. And I have to agree with Viper in that Castillo does look taller than Merriman. He’s certainly not shorter than him. Jackson has less difference with Castillo who measured 6’2.6 (likely 6’2 1/4 or 3/8) than with Merriman. Meaning it has to be around a 2” diff with Merriman. The reason the height decreases right to left is because Jackson is the tallest followed (likely) by Castillo followed (likely) by Merriman. Meaning Merriman’s combine measurement is likely an error and he’s more than likely 6’2” range. Maybe not a flat 6’2” but I can see him being a strong 6’2” perhaps
@Andrea: I respect your opinion. I don’t think Davis is shorter than Merriman on the other hand. I would have him slightly taller. Jackson does look taller regardless of camera angle. You see Castillo next to both guys and they look (minus Merriman) what their combines would be in the AM. Meaning Castillo and Jackson. And I have to agree with Viper in that Castillo does look taller than Merriman. He’s certainly not shorter than him. Jackson has less difference with Castillo who measured 6’2.6 (likely 6’2 1/4 or 3/8) than with Merriman. Meaning it has to be around a 2” diff with Merriman. The reason the height decreases right to left is because Jackson is the tallest followed (likely) by Castillo followed (likely) by Merriman. Meaning Merriman’s combine measurement is likely an error and he’s more than likely 6’2” range. Maybe not a flat 6’2” but I can see him being a strong 6’2” perhaps
viper said on 23/Mar/18
IMO Rob should bring Merriman down on that pic alone. Absolute perfect posture, footwear and all and looking at least an inch shorter than 6-3.7 Aaron Maybin.
IMO Rob should bring Merriman down on that pic alone. Absolute perfect posture, footwear and all and looking at least an inch shorter than 6-3.7 Aaron Maybin.
Andrea said on 23/Mar/18
That's not really the case, Canson, but, as I said, I certainly don't need to convince you... Regardless of Shawne's real height, he certainly does look taller than Vernon. How much is arguable, but I highly doubt they are the same height. Let alone Shawne being shorter!
As for Vincent Jackson's picture, I don't quite see as much as 2 inches between them. And that's without taking into account the fact that the camera angle is favoring the right side (hence Vincent). I'm sure the difference would be less than that in an "ideal picture"...
That's not really the case, Canson, but, as I said, I certainly don't need to convince you... Regardless of Shawne's real height, he certainly does look taller than Vernon. How much is arguable, but I highly doubt they are the same height. Let alone Shawne being shorter!
As for Vincent Jackson's picture, I don't quite see as much as 2 inches between them. And that's without taking into account the fact that the camera angle is favoring the right side (hence Vincent). I'm sure the difference would be less than that in an "ideal picture"...
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Andrea: confirmed may be a bad way to describe but what I meant was he looks 6’2 with LT because in other pics he can look where you have him. But it means that there is evidence in both directions
@Andrea: confirmed may be a bad way to describe but what I meant was he looks 6’2 with LT because in other pics he can look where you have him. But it means that there is evidence in both directions
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Viper: the times for the Pro Days is interesting. I wondered how some of the players measured close to their combine in some. Many measure lower though in their pro days. But even an afternoon measurement for some could result in sleep if the players know that it impacts the measurement. I think uniformity would be great tho. However, an example is Baker Mayfield. They stated that his Senior Bowl was private measurement as he was 1/4 below there. I’d be Curious to see how tall he was at his pro day or if he’s aware that laying down impacted it now
@Viper: the times for the Pro Days is interesting. I wondered how some of the players measured close to their combine in some. Many measure lower though in their pro days. But even an afternoon measurement for some could result in sleep if the players know that it impacts the measurement. I think uniformity would be great tho. However, an example is Baker Mayfield. They stated that his Senior Bowl was private measurement as he was 1/4 below there. I’d be Curious to see how tall he was at his pro day or if he’s aware that laying down impacted it now
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Andrea: I respectfully disagree. As a matter of fact that just confirms that Davis is leaning with LT as Merriman only looks 6’2 (4” difference) in the pic Viper provided. Davis is standing poorly in at least 2 of those three noticeably. The first one wth them they look the same height Merriman is not taller than him. As for Jackson that is a 2” difference in height so Jackson at 6’4 3/8 would make Merriman no higher than about 6’2 3/8
@Andrea: I respectfully disagree. As a matter of fact that just confirms that Davis is leaning with LT as Merriman only looks 6’2 (4” difference) in the pic Viper provided. Davis is standing poorly in at least 2 of those three noticeably. The first one wth them they look the same height Merriman is not taller than him. As for Jackson that is a 2” difference in height so Jackson at 6’4 3/8 would make Merriman no higher than about 6’2 3/8
Canson said on 22/Mar/18
@Viper: exactly. Rudolph is combine measured 1/2” above his normal height whereas 6’4 5/8 would be a 1 hour out of bed 6’4 1/8 afternoon meaning 1/8” shorter than I am. I would measure about 6’4.75 after an hour or more specifically 1mm (194.8cm) below but of course they only go to the 1/8” and round up so I would be 6046 at the combine as that’s an hour out of bed. And I’m 193.8cm (average) some days 1mm over others 1mm under so 6’4.25. But the norm is 3/8 or 1/2” difference
@Viper: exactly. Rudolph is combine measured 1/2” above his normal height whereas 6’4 5/8 would be a 1 hour out of bed 6’4 1/8 afternoon meaning 1/8” shorter than I am. I would measure about 6’4.75 after an hour or more specifically 1mm (194.8cm) below but of course they only go to the 1/8” and round up so I would be 6046 at the combine as that’s an hour out of bed. And I’m 193.8cm (average) some days 1mm over others 1mm under so 6’4.25. But the norm is 3/8 or 1/2” difference
Andrea said on 22/Mar/18
Well, I am seeing them, Canson:
1. Click Here
2. Click Here
3. Click Here (although this last one is just a rough comparison between them, it clearly shows that Shawne looks easily taller than Vernon next to Ladainian, which certainly makes sense when you look at the first two pictures)
And I'm sorry, but saying that Vernon looks "physically taller" really makes no sense and honestly sounds a bit delusional...
"With Vincent Jackson I agree that he can look closer to 6'3 (not 6'2, though), but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears in that photo: Click Here "
Well, I am seeing them, Canson:
1. Click Here
2. Click Here
3. Click Here (although this last one is just a rough comparison between them, it clearly shows that Shawne looks easily taller than Vernon next to Ladainian, which certainly makes sense when you look at the first two pictures)
And I'm sorry, but saying that Vernon looks "physically taller" really makes no sense and honestly sounds a bit delusional...
"With Vincent Jackson I agree that he can look closer to 6'3 (not 6'2, though), but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears in that photo: Click Here "
viper said on 22/Mar/18
Uhhhh Andrea, the guy next to Merriman is 6-3.7 Aaron Maybin
Uhhhh Andrea, the guy next to Merriman is 6-3.7 Aaron Maybin
Canson said on 22/Mar/18
@Andrea: I agree with some of what you said in the post below but the photo with Vernon Davis isn’t any worse than any of the others that you commented on. All of those have issues tbh Davis is leaning in at least one of the pics as well. The one where he is off to the right. And Davis physically looks taller than Merriman and in the ones where you concluded that he looks taller than Davis i can choose at least another where they are the same Merriman isn’t taller. And in Viper’s Davis edged him out. Merriman may be taller in one of the pics if that.
As for the pic with Petty yes I agree with what you said that it isn’t a good pic it’s terrible I agree too. However, it’s a matter of you and Viper seeing things in different ways because not all of the ones he posted are terrible pics. The one with Vincent Jackson is one of the better ones on this page actually and in this debate
@Andrea: I agree with some of what you said in the post below but the photo with Vernon Davis isn’t any worse than any of the others that you commented on. All of those have issues tbh Davis is leaning in at least one of the pics as well. The one where he is off to the right. And Davis physically looks taller than Merriman and in the ones where you concluded that he looks taller than Davis i can choose at least another where they are the same Merriman isn’t taller. And in Viper’s Davis edged him out. Merriman may be taller in one of the pics if that.
As for the pic with Petty yes I agree with what you said that it isn’t a good pic it’s terrible I agree too. However, it’s a matter of you and Viper seeing things in different ways because not all of the ones he posted are terrible pics. The one with Vincent Jackson is one of the better ones on this page actually and in this debate
viper said on 22/Mar/18
Sorry Andrea, not even Paul is taking the bait
Sorry Andrea, not even Paul is taking the bait
viper said on 22/Mar/18
Mason Rudolph was measured at:
6-4.5
6-4.3
6-4.1
Mason Rudolph was measured at:
6-4.5
6-4.3
6-4.1
viper said on 21/Mar/18
Obviously the pic is angled more toward Petty. Just thought it was interesting
Obviously the pic is angled more toward Petty. Just thought it was interesting
viper said on 21/Mar/18
Vernon actually looks more 2 inches taller than Merriman
Vernon actually looks more 2 inches taller than Merriman
viper said on 21/Mar/18
6-3 Gorka with Trump. Click Here
6-2 Merriman with Trump.
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Big difference.
6-3 Gorka with Trump. Click Here
6-2 Merriman with Trump.
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Big difference.
Canson said on 21/Mar/18
@Andrea: I’m not seeing 3 pics where Merriman is taller. In the one Viper posted below Davis clearly is. And we can say someone is leaning or we can’t see footwear but that’s also the case in at least one pic that you posted (minus footwear of course) but Davis is leaning. Although I don’t agree with all that Viper has said here I would have to agree with him that he looks physically taller than merriman. I would have a hard time saying that Merriman is taller than him. Maybe Davis really doesn’t edge him by all that much or they’re similar but Merriman really doesn’t strike me as taller.
As for Vincent Jackson he measured 6’4.6 at the combine and 6’4.3 at the Senior Bowl which points to an afternoon measurement which is how his height would really be gauged here on celebheights. Maybe he’s a hair less but prob not any higher. For the sake of argument I’ll keep him at 6’4.3 since that’s about right when you consider difference from 1 hour out of bed. See the first link. If you look at the others in this listing such as Deangelo Williams Marcedes Lewis (who we discussed earlier) and Nick Mangold they’re examples of people listed 3/8 or 1/2” less than their Combine measurements. Not to mention i posted the article previously on Boris’s page to Checker where I made reference to Nick Mangold and the others and it says there that the players had a rise and shine at 6am and got drug tested then measured right after which given the disparity between both means about 1 hour on their feet of that much. Some vary a bit less but most on this list are half inch or 3/8” taller at the combine then their senior bowl listing which makes me believe these are 100% accurate just that they’re normal heights not eye openers. Jackson has more than 1.5” on Merriman. That looks about a good 2” imho. That would have to be a 3cm-3.5 cm diff to make Merriman 6’3”. That difference is more than 3cm. That’s about a 2” difference. If anything I could easily believe the 6’2.4 for Merriman at that stage but he could be a bit less even. But because other pics say otherwise I’d call that around 6’2.4
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@Andrea: I’m not seeing 3 pics where Merriman is taller. In the one Viper posted below Davis clearly is. And we can say someone is leaning or we can’t see footwear but that’s also the case in at least one pic that you posted (minus footwear of course) but Davis is leaning. Although I don’t agree with all that Viper has said here I would have to agree with him that he looks physically taller than merriman. I would have a hard time saying that Merriman is taller than him. Maybe Davis really doesn’t edge him by all that much or they’re similar but Merriman really doesn’t strike me as taller.
As for Vincent Jackson he measured 6’4.6 at the combine and 6’4.3 at the Senior Bowl which points to an afternoon measurement which is how his height would really be gauged here on celebheights. Maybe he’s a hair less but prob not any higher. For the sake of argument I’ll keep him at 6’4.3 since that’s about right when you consider difference from 1 hour out of bed. See the first link. If you look at the others in this listing such as Deangelo Williams Marcedes Lewis (who we discussed earlier) and Nick Mangold they’re examples of people listed 3/8 or 1/2” less than their Combine measurements. Not to mention i posted the article previously on Boris’s page to Checker where I made reference to Nick Mangold and the others and it says there that the players had a rise and shine at 6am and got drug tested then measured right after which given the disparity between both means about 1 hour on their feet of that much. Some vary a bit less but most on this list are half inch or 3/8” taller at the combine then their senior bowl listing which makes me believe these are 100% accurate just that they’re normal heights not eye openers. Jackson has more than 1.5” on Merriman. That looks about a good 2” imho. That would have to be a 3cm-3.5 cm diff to make Merriman 6’3”. That difference is more than 3cm. That’s about a 2” difference. If anything I could easily believe the 6’2.4 for Merriman at that stage but he could be a bit less even. But because other pics say otherwise I’d call that around 6’2.4
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Andrea said on 21/Mar/18
Very well said, Paul. But again, it's a classic for viper's photos (and videos). Look at his other "evidence" down below and have fun...
The same goes for the last photo he posted with Shawne and Vernon. Now tell me what you can conclude from a photo like that. It's shot from a very bad angle, you can't even tell whether they're standing tall or not and there's even some tilt in Vernon's favour, yet, according to our Mr "I'm a pretty good judge of height" here, Vernon is "clearly taller than 6-2 Merriman". And that's even funnier, considering that I have already posted two good pictures of them together where it's really the way around: Shawne is clearly taller than Vernon: Click Here Click Here
Very well said, Paul. But again, it's a classic for viper's photos (and videos). Look at his other "evidence" down below and have fun...
The same goes for the last photo he posted with Shawne and Vernon. Now tell me what you can conclude from a photo like that. It's shot from a very bad angle, you can't even tell whether they're standing tall or not and there's even some tilt in Vernon's favour, yet, according to our Mr "I'm a pretty good judge of height" here, Vernon is "clearly taller than 6-2 Merriman". And that's even funnier, considering that I have already posted two good pictures of them together where it's really the way around: Shawne is clearly taller than Vernon: Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 20/Mar/18
@Viper: the pic with petty isn’t the greatest tbh. That’s hard to tell a diff
@Viper: the pic with petty isn’t the greatest tbh. That’s hard to tell a diff
Paul NS (6ft0.5) said on 20/Mar/18
Viper, how can you conclude that Petty is taller from that photo? It's a very bad angle for height judgment and you can't see footwear. It's impossible to gauge imo. (Plus, Petty is almost certainly at the age where he'd be losing height.)
Viper, how can you conclude that Petty is taller from that photo? It's a very bad angle for height judgment and you can't see footwear. It's impossible to gauge imo. (Plus, Petty is almost certainly at the age where he'd be losing height.)
viper said on 20/Mar/18
And 6-2.6 Castillo clearly looks taller than Merriman, yet our resident troll here will say different
And 6-2.6 Castillo clearly looks taller than Merriman, yet our resident troll here will say different
Andrea said on 20/Mar/18
To be honest, I don't think Vernon is standing any worse than Shawne next to Ladainian... We now have 3 different photos (although the last one is still just a rough comparison) where Shawne looks easily taller than Vernon, hence why I find it very hard to believe that it's the other way around like you say. Photos certainly tell otherwise (and it's not only one).
As for Vincent Jackson, I'm not sure how tall he "really" is... On draftscout he's down at 6'4 6/8: Click Here Shawne I think can look over 1 inch but not quite 2 inches shorter than him in that picture: Click Here So nearer 6'3 than 6'4, assuming that Vincent is somewhere between 6'4 and 6'5, but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears there.
To be honest, I don't think Vernon is standing any worse than Shawne next to Ladainian... We now have 3 different photos (although the last one is still just a rough comparison) where Shawne looks easily taller than Vernon, hence why I find it very hard to believe that it's the other way around like you say. Photos certainly tell otherwise (and it's not only one).
As for Vincent Jackson, I'm not sure how tall he "really" is... On draftscout he's down at 6'4 6/8: Click Here Shawne I think can look over 1 inch but not quite 2 inches shorter than him in that picture: Click Here So nearer 6'3 than 6'4, assuming that Vincent is somewhere between 6'4 and 6'5, but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears there.
Canson said on 20/Mar/18
@Andrea: I have to disagree there. It appears Vernon is standing worse to me but maybe I’m wrong. I still have Davis a little taller than Merriman that’s my opinion. And with Vincent Jackson he does in fact look that low. But doubt 6’2” flat around 6’2 3/8 or 6’2.5ish as that’s close to if not a full 2” difference in height. It really doesn’t look less than 2” and not as low as only 3cm. Remember you said that Kobe and Boris were 3cm difference that looks easily higher than that.
@Andrea: I have to disagree there. It appears Vernon is standing worse to me but maybe I’m wrong. I still have Davis a little taller than Merriman that’s my opinion. And with Vincent Jackson he does in fact look that low. But doubt 6’2” flat around 6’2 3/8 or 6’2.5ish as that’s close to if not a full 2” difference in height. It really doesn’t look less than 2” and not as low as only 3cm. Remember you said that Kobe and Boris were 3cm difference that looks easily higher than that.
Andrea said on 20/Mar/18
Dear viper, Tom and Jared are just two of the many examples I could give. I could go on and on... Oh and let me rectify, you didn't just "guessed" them at 6'1 and 6'3, but you even said that 6'0 and 6'2 were quite possible too at one point. And you call yourself a "pretty good judge of height"? LMFAO
And do you want to talk about the fact that you even needed to use a countless number of "fake accounts" to comment on here in the last years (probably to cover your identity and fuc*ed up reputation on here)??? Come on, don't even get me started...
Dear viper, Tom and Jared are just two of the many examples I could give. I could go on and on... Oh and let me rectify, you didn't just "guessed" them at 6'1 and 6'3, but you even said that 6'0 and 6'2 were quite possible too at one point. And you call yourself a "pretty good judge of height"? LMFAO
And do you want to talk about the fact that you even needed to use a countless number of "fake accounts" to comment on here in the last years (probably to cover your identity and fuc*ed up reputation on here)??? Come on, don't even get me started...
Andrea said on 20/Mar/18
Actually, Vernon isn't standing much different than Shawne next to Ladainian. Both of them aren't standing at their tallest, just like Ladainian, and, if anything, Shawne looks more disadvantaged than Vernon, considering that he looks further away from the camera compared to him! This means that if Shawne really looks only 6'2 like you say, then Vernon looks no more than 6'1...
As for the other people, he doesn't look as low a 6'2 (or even 6'2 4/8) either and I have already explained why in my last post:
"The only picture we have with Dexter Manley is this one Click Here and Dexter has a noticeable camera advantage over Shawne, given that the camera is behind is back. I dare anyone to tell any height difference in a picture like that! With Vincent Jackson I agree that he can look closer to 6'3 (not 6'2, though), but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears in that photo: Click Here "
Actually, Vernon isn't standing much different than Shawne next to Ladainian. Both of them aren't standing at their tallest, just like Ladainian, and, if anything, Shawne looks more disadvantaged than Vernon, considering that he looks further away from the camera compared to him! This means that if Shawne really looks only 6'2 like you say, then Vernon looks no more than 6'1...
As for the other people, he doesn't look as low a 6'2 (or even 6'2 4/8) either and I have already explained why in my last post:
"The only picture we have with Dexter Manley is this one Click Here and Dexter has a noticeable camera advantage over Shawne, given that the camera is behind is back. I dare anyone to tell any height difference in a picture like that! With Vincent Jackson I agree that he can look closer to 6'3 (not 6'2, though), but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears in that photo: Click Here "
viper said on 19/Mar/18
I thought Welling was 6-1 range and Jared 6-3. An inch off.
"BUT GUIZE THAT MAKES VIPER A TROLL!" Lol
I thought Welling was 6-1 range and Jared 6-3. An inch off.
"BUT GUIZE THAT MAKES VIPER A TROLL!" Lol
Canson said on 19/Mar/18
@Andrea: I don’t think Viper would have any reason to lie about meeting Merriman in person. Sure he may have (as could anyone) underestimate or overestimate someone’s height but I don’t think that there’s a reason when he’s also pointed out others he’s met where they looked close to what he mentioned. Also because I’ve seen on Twitter where viper has mentioned he met him in person and his story is consistent with it. Not to mention that the game where he met him i believe I was at that game as well and I myself saw him (as I’ve also mentioned). Now I wasn’t close enough to him to gauge his height. But I do have a friend who has stood face to face and his story was closs with Viper’s that he’s no more than 6’2 maybe 6’2/6’3 at absolute best. And Viper was the one that brought the game up that it was at. I just mentioned on Boris’s page that I saw him when he was with the chargers but had come back for a MD game. So I can surely believe he met him. Now it’s still possible his estimate was not very good but to me 6’2” has as much merit as your belief that he’s 6’3.5ish actually would be more likely he’s 6’2” range than that. If he measured 6’4.3 he would likely be 6’3 7/8 or 6’4 at a low which he never really looks (maybe one or two pics if I had to guess). I do think he does look 6’3.5 though in others so I agree with you on that. But he doesn’t look as tall as Tom Brady does either not even close imho. I’ll be honest with you though I first assumed he was 6’4” based on his measurement and based on the fact that he looked tall from a distance. I didn’t know or suspect until Viper said that to me on a different page so I asked someone else
@Andrea: I don’t think Viper would have any reason to lie about meeting Merriman in person. Sure he may have (as could anyone) underestimate or overestimate someone’s height but I don’t think that there’s a reason when he’s also pointed out others he’s met where they looked close to what he mentioned. Also because I’ve seen on Twitter where viper has mentioned he met him in person and his story is consistent with it. Not to mention that the game where he met him i believe I was at that game as well and I myself saw him (as I’ve also mentioned). Now I wasn’t close enough to him to gauge his height. But I do have a friend who has stood face to face and his story was closs with Viper’s that he’s no more than 6’2 maybe 6’2/6’3 at absolute best. And Viper was the one that brought the game up that it was at. I just mentioned on Boris’s page that I saw him when he was with the chargers but had come back for a MD game. So I can surely believe he met him. Now it’s still possible his estimate was not very good but to me 6’2” has as much merit as your belief that he’s 6’3.5ish actually would be more likely he’s 6’2” range than that. If he measured 6’4.3 he would likely be 6’3 7/8 or 6’4 at a low which he never really looks (maybe one or two pics if I had to guess). I do think he does look 6’3.5 though in others so I agree with you on that. But he doesn’t look as tall as Tom Brady does either not even close imho. I’ll be honest with you though I first assumed he was 6’4” based on his measurement and based on the fact that he looked tall from a distance. I didn’t know or suspect until Viper said that to me on a different page so I asked someone else
viper said on 19/Mar/18
LT looks as tall as 5-11 Vernon's brother with him
LT looks as tall as 5-11 Vernon's brother with him
Canson said on 19/Mar/18
@Andrea: Vernon isn’t standing as straight as Merriman. As for Vincent Jackson, Merriman looks just how Viper pegged him 6’2” range. Jackson measured 6’4.3 at the senior bowl and 6’4.6 at the combine so he’s max 6’4 3/8. While maybe 6’2 is too low 6’2.4 could be right. I understand your point with hardwick but that’s just the pic. Merriman can look taller than some guys that height but shorter than others. Like with Jackson and Castillo that’s a clear difference as is the case with Merriman and Manley. He looks 6’2” range with both sets. He looks 6’2 with LT as well in the pic Viper posted. As he also does in the pic that I provided with Vince Young but that goes to support what you said before that his height is all over the place.
@Andrea: Vernon isn’t standing as straight as Merriman. As for Vincent Jackson, Merriman looks just how Viper pegged him 6’2” range. Jackson measured 6’4.3 at the senior bowl and 6’4.6 at the combine so he’s max 6’4 3/8. While maybe 6’2 is too low 6’2.4 could be right. I understand your point with hardwick but that’s just the pic. Merriman can look taller than some guys that height but shorter than others. Like with Jackson and Castillo that’s a clear difference as is the case with Merriman and Manley. He looks 6’2” range with both sets. He looks 6’2 with LT as well in the pic Viper posted. As he also does in the pic that I provided with Vince Young but that goes to support what you said before that his height is all over the place.
Canson said on 19/Mar/18
@Andrea: Vernon isn’t standing as straight as Merriman
@Andrea: Vernon isn’t standing as straight as Merriman
Andrea said on 19/Mar/18
Well, if that's only a 4.5 inches difference, then the difference between Vernon and Ladainian is no more than 3.5 inches: Click Here
As for the other picture, if you "see where I'm coming from with Hardwick and Osgood", I don't see how you can say that Shawne looks 6'3 MAX next to Ladainian, considering that he looks no less than 6'3.5 next to Hardwick and Osgood. I mean, a person cannot look two different heights in the SAME PHOTO!
As for the other people you have mentioned, I disagree. He doesn't look as low as 6'2 or even 6'3 with them. The only picture we have with Dexter Manley is this one Click Here and Dexter has a noticeable camera advantage over Shawne, given that the camera is behind is back. I dare anyone to tell any height difference in a picture like that! With Vincent Jackson I agree that he can look closer to 6'3 (not 6'2, though), but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears in that photo: Click Here As for Marcellus Willey, I don't think Shawne looks shorter than him: Click Here In that other picture that has been posted Shawne simply doesn't seem to be standing at his tallest and the camera position also seems to be favoring Marcellus's side a bit: Click Here
And I don't agree with your logic that since he may have looked nearer 6'2 than 6'4 in a very few occasions, then 6'2 range is as possible as 6'4. It simply doesn't work this way! A 6'2 range guy can maybe pull off looking 6'3-6'4 in 1 or 2 occasions, but not as often as Shawne does. There are way too many occasions where he looks noticeably taller than 6'2 and your "sometimes photos don't show the real difference" (which, btw, I totally agree with) cannot explain all those photos I have posted. That being said, as always, you're completely entitled to believe what you want, Canson...
As for viper, if you think he's a good poster, good for you. I certainly can't say the same (and I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one on here who thinks that way). To me, he's just a big joke and I cannot take him seriously. And, to be honest, I don't even believe him when he says that he met Shawne...
Well, if that's only a 4.5 inches difference, then the difference between Vernon and Ladainian is no more than 3.5 inches: Click Here
As for the other picture, if you "see where I'm coming from with Hardwick and Osgood", I don't see how you can say that Shawne looks 6'3 MAX next to Ladainian, considering that he looks no less than 6'3.5 next to Hardwick and Osgood. I mean, a person cannot look two different heights in the SAME PHOTO!
As for the other people you have mentioned, I disagree. He doesn't look as low as 6'2 or even 6'3 with them. The only picture we have with Dexter Manley is this one Click Here and Dexter has a noticeable camera advantage over Shawne, given that the camera is behind is back. I dare anyone to tell any height difference in a picture like that! With Vincent Jackson I agree that he can look closer to 6'3 (not 6'2, though), but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears in that photo: Click Here As for Marcellus Willey, I don't think Shawne looks shorter than him: Click Here In that other picture that has been posted Shawne simply doesn't seem to be standing at his tallest and the camera position also seems to be favoring Marcellus's side a bit: Click Here
And I don't agree with your logic that since he may have looked nearer 6'2 than 6'4 in a very few occasions, then 6'2 range is as possible as 6'4. It simply doesn't work this way! A 6'2 range guy can maybe pull off looking 6'3-6'4 in 1 or 2 occasions, but not as often as Shawne does. There are way too many occasions where he looks noticeably taller than 6'2 and your "sometimes photos don't show the real difference" (which, btw, I totally agree with) cannot explain all those photos I have posted. That being said, as always, you're completely entitled to believe what you want, Canson...
As for viper, if you think he's a good poster, good for you. I certainly can't say the same (and I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one on here who thinks that way). To me, he's just a big joke and I cannot take him seriously. And, to be honest, I don't even believe him when he says that he met Shawne...
viper said on 18/Mar/18
Canson look how big the difference is with 6-3.5 Chris Berman. Yet our Stevie Wonder troll here says it's nothing
Canson look how big the difference is with 6-3.5 Chris Berman. Yet our Stevie Wonder troll here says it's nothing
Canson said on 18/Mar/18
@Andrea: I have to disagree. With LT I can see max a 4.5” difference. If LT was in the same boat (morning) he likely would be 5’9.75 or 7/8 at a low which would make Merriman right around what he was measured at the Senior Bowl. One thing I will say is when Viper met him and said not over 6’2 he may not have been standing his tallest but to me at least he does not look as tall as Vernon Davis. I see where you’re coming from with Hardwick and Osgood but at the same time with Dexter Manley and with Vincent Jackson he looks 6’2” range for sure. This is one of those cases where either he really is only 6’2 range or where he doesn’t stand well in some pics. In terms of 6’3 he didn’t measure it but he can look it at times imho such as 184guy And Harry Sachs pointed out in the pic with Marcellus Wiley. But to be fair you could easily have two different pics with the same two people and the height difference could look completely different from one to the other which is something you have to take into account. Meaning just because he looks 6’3.5 or weak 6’4 in some pics, the ones where he looks 6’2 range are equally as credible imho since there is no perfect picture
@Viper: Davis measured that early morning correct. That probably would make him around 6’2.75-6’3 at a low. Maybe he was the case where like Rob mentioned that he could’ve been measured behind others and could’ve come down to 6’3.25 after maybe a couple hours and only gets to 6’3. Usually though, I give the person the benefit of the doubt (outside CH) if they are 6’2.75 at a low I think a 6’3 claim is fair. But I estimated 1-1.5” difference with him. Could be either end but it was at least an inch. Maybe 6’2 7/8 is more likely than 6’2.75 but he looked a much better 6’3 than others who claim that height themselves. I would say that he looked the same next to me as my 6’3 friend who measures 190.3ish in the evening. I would be hard pressed to see a difference with the two. In your case you’re an exception (rare) to the norm. A guy measuring 6’3 isn’t gonna just lose 1cm to 1/2”. They normally lose 3/4 or very least 1/2-3/4” per day. I myself have always lost (since I began measuring to that extent 3 years ago when I came here to CH) 3/4” maybe 2cm. A reliable measurement for me is 195.6-195.9 depending on sleep usually 195.7 lately and 193.7-.9 at night which makes me just a strong 6’4”. Similar to how Christian measures an inch taller and strong 6’5. Both of us have claimed 6’4 1/2 and 6’5 1/2 before because we measured close to that but in reality if we hit the 1/4” mark daily then prob 6’4 and 6’5 are enough. People don’t use 1/2” properly imho. I agree with what he said in that people above 1/4” (maybe 1/3-5/8) probably should claim 1/2”. I only stopped because I got tired of people asking why I even bother with the half (instead of claiming 6’4) or why I don’t just round up to 6’5” or people rounding me up on my behalf. I also have a friend Christians size 1” taller than me that claims 6’5 never the change (he only says 6’5 and change to us in his circle) along with two others 6’6 and 6’7.
@Andrea: I have to disagree. With LT I can see max a 4.5” difference. If LT was in the same boat (morning) he likely would be 5’9.75 or 7/8 at a low which would make Merriman right around what he was measured at the Senior Bowl. One thing I will say is when Viper met him and said not over 6’2 he may not have been standing his tallest but to me at least he does not look as tall as Vernon Davis. I see where you’re coming from with Hardwick and Osgood but at the same time with Dexter Manley and with Vincent Jackson he looks 6’2” range for sure. This is one of those cases where either he really is only 6’2 range or where he doesn’t stand well in some pics. In terms of 6’3 he didn’t measure it but he can look it at times imho such as 184guy And Harry Sachs pointed out in the pic with Marcellus Wiley. But to be fair you could easily have two different pics with the same two people and the height difference could look completely different from one to the other which is something you have to take into account. Meaning just because he looks 6’3.5 or weak 6’4 in some pics, the ones where he looks 6’2 range are equally as credible imho since there is no perfect picture
@Viper: Davis measured that early morning correct. That probably would make him around 6’2.75-6’3 at a low. Maybe he was the case where like Rob mentioned that he could’ve been measured behind others and could’ve come down to 6’3.25 after maybe a couple hours and only gets to 6’3. Usually though, I give the person the benefit of the doubt (outside CH) if they are 6’2.75 at a low I think a 6’3 claim is fair. But I estimated 1-1.5” difference with him. Could be either end but it was at least an inch. Maybe 6’2 7/8 is more likely than 6’2.75 but he looked a much better 6’3 than others who claim that height themselves. I would say that he looked the same next to me as my 6’3 friend who measures 190.3ish in the evening. I would be hard pressed to see a difference with the two. In your case you’re an exception (rare) to the norm. A guy measuring 6’3 isn’t gonna just lose 1cm to 1/2”. They normally lose 3/4 or very least 1/2-3/4” per day. I myself have always lost (since I began measuring to that extent 3 years ago when I came here to CH) 3/4” maybe 2cm. A reliable measurement for me is 195.6-195.9 depending on sleep usually 195.7 lately and 193.7-.9 at night which makes me just a strong 6’4”. Similar to how Christian measures an inch taller and strong 6’5. Both of us have claimed 6’4 1/2 and 6’5 1/2 before because we measured close to that but in reality if we hit the 1/4” mark daily then prob 6’4 and 6’5 are enough. People don’t use 1/2” properly imho. I agree with what he said in that people above 1/4” (maybe 1/3-5/8) probably should claim 1/2”. I only stopped because I got tired of people asking why I even bother with the half (instead of claiming 6’4) or why I don’t just round up to 6’5” or people rounding me up on my behalf. I also have a friend Christians size 1” taller than me that claims 6’5 never the change (he only says 6’5 and change to us in his circle) along with two others 6’6 and 6’7.
Andrea said on 17/Mar/18
Sometimes it is easier to call other people trolls rather than to counter their arguments... In viper's case, it's even funnier, given that he himself is one of the biggest trolls ever in CelebHeights story. And Rob is right. Sometimes there is a fine line between a genuine estimate or a trolling attempt, but it is certainly hard to take seriously a guy who thinks that a 6'2-6'3 Jared Padalecki or a 6'-6'1 Tom Welling are even remotely possible. That alone is certainly enough for me to consider him nothing else than a troll.
Getting back to Shawne, Canson, you keep disregarding the fact that Shawne looks comfortably taller than 6'3.5 measured Nick Hardwick in the same photo (and no more than an inch shorter than 6'4 7/8 measured Kassim Osgood). Let's say for a moment that you're right and that Shawne really looks no more than 6'3 next to Ladainian... How do you explain him looking at least, again to be as conservative as possible, half an inch taller than Nick? If Shawne really was 6'3 flat (that, again, is probably the least likely mark, given his alleged or non-alleged 6'2 4/8 and 6'4 3/8 measurements), that would make Nick no more than 6'2.5, which is certainly a bit hard to believe, considering that we know he was measured at 6'3.5 at one point (and that's not an out of bed measurement). I don't know him, but based on that, I would say that at the very worst he'd drop to around 6'3 flat, which would still put Shawne at no less than 6'3.5!
As for the other picture of Shawne and Ladainian, I can see about 5 inches between them, but again Ladainian is standing closer to the camera than Shawne. Actually, Ladainian's position in that photo is not much different than his position in Vernon's photo and Shawne looks easily taller than how Vernon does next to him, which is not a surprising, considering that that's exactly how he looks in both the pictures I have posted: easily taller than Vernon...
Sometimes it is easier to call other people trolls rather than to counter their arguments... In viper's case, it's even funnier, given that he himself is one of the biggest trolls ever in CelebHeights story. And Rob is right. Sometimes there is a fine line between a genuine estimate or a trolling attempt, but it is certainly hard to take seriously a guy who thinks that a 6'2-6'3 Jared Padalecki or a 6'-6'1 Tom Welling are even remotely possible. That alone is certainly enough for me to consider him nothing else than a troll.
Getting back to Shawne, Canson, you keep disregarding the fact that Shawne looks comfortably taller than 6'3.5 measured Nick Hardwick in the same photo (and no more than an inch shorter than 6'4 7/8 measured Kassim Osgood). Let's say for a moment that you're right and that Shawne really looks no more than 6'3 next to Ladainian... How do you explain him looking at least, again to be as conservative as possible, half an inch taller than Nick? If Shawne really was 6'3 flat (that, again, is probably the least likely mark, given his alleged or non-alleged 6'2 4/8 and 6'4 3/8 measurements), that would make Nick no more than 6'2.5, which is certainly a bit hard to believe, considering that we know he was measured at 6'3.5 at one point (and that's not an out of bed measurement). I don't know him, but based on that, I would say that at the very worst he'd drop to around 6'3 flat, which would still put Shawne at no less than 6'3.5!
As for the other picture of Shawne and Ladainian, I can see about 5 inches between them, but again Ladainian is standing closer to the camera than Shawne. Actually, Ladainian's position in that photo is not much different than his position in Vernon's photo and Shawne looks easily taller than how Vernon does next to him, which is not a surprising, considering that that's exactly how he looks in both the pictures I have posted: easily taller than Vernon...
Canson said on 17/Mar/18
@Rob: the Chris guy surely is. Comes on every few months and inflates everyone especially basketball players then even claimed to meet Allen Iverson and put him (consistent with his pattern) at 6’1 barefoot. A guy who claims to be 6’5” wouldn’t mistake a 5’10-5’11 guy (like his coach Larry Brown said) with someone who is 6’1”. Not to mention AI measured 5’11.25 at the pre draft (which looks a bit high imho). I could see a morning measurement like they do about an hour out at 5’11 or maybe 5’11 1/8 which is probably what got rounded up to 5’11.25 since the NBA doesn’t do 1/8” increments and him being 5’10 5/8 maybe at a normal low and slightly less after a 48 minute basketball game (really more like a couple hours of standing).
@Rob: the Chris guy surely is. Comes on every few months and inflates everyone especially basketball players then even claimed to meet Allen Iverson and put him (consistent with his pattern) at 6’1 barefoot. A guy who claims to be 6’5” wouldn’t mistake a 5’10-5’11 guy (like his coach Larry Brown said) with someone who is 6’1”. Not to mention AI measured 5’11.25 at the pre draft (which looks a bit high imho). I could see a morning measurement like they do about an hour out at 5’11 or maybe 5’11 1/8 which is probably what got rounded up to 5’11.25 since the NBA doesn’t do 1/8” increments and him being 5’10 5/8 maybe at a normal low and slightly less after a 48 minute basketball game (really more like a couple hours of standing).
Canson said on 17/Mar/18
@Andrea: in that pic that Viper posted he looks 6’2” with LT. in the other one I posted maybe a weak 6’3 is the best case like 189-190cm
@Andrea: in that pic that Viper posted he looks 6’2” with LT. in the other one I posted maybe a weak 6’3 is the best case like 189-190cm
viper said on 17/Mar/18
Canson 6-3 Vernon Davis is exactly like me. Measured 6-3.2 in the morning and still looked a solid 6-3 to you
Canson 6-3 Vernon Davis is exactly like me. Measured 6-3.2 in the morning and still looked a solid 6-3 to you
viper said on 17/Mar/18
Canson there is a 6-3 range guy I see sometimes and on occasion I feel the same height or even a little taller than him. Other times I feel a little shorter
Canson there is a 6-3 range guy I see sometimes and on occasion I feel the same height or even a little taller than him. Other times I feel a little shorter
Canson said on 16/Mar/18
@Viper: well i wasn’t around on this site back in 08 but the same patterns existed then that do today some 10 years later specifically with Vegas, where he accused you of “tailoring your estimate to fit you” yet he does the same even going as far as choosing a pic where the Rock is clearly favored with Ndamukong Suh to make the Rock 6’3”. Then when the better pic of Suh and Rock was posted it became that we could not see ground etc when you actually can and not to mention they are at the same event that the pictures he posted came from as they have the exact same clothes and footwear on.
As far as what you said you meant Dwayne Bowe was 4.5” taller. But with Bowe it’s likely he’s a hair under 6’2” at a low like 6’1.75 or 7/8”. Merriman likely would edge Bowe. But I do see where you’re coming from
@Viper: well i wasn’t around on this site back in 08 but the same patterns existed then that do today some 10 years later specifically with Vegas, where he accused you of “tailoring your estimate to fit you” yet he does the same even going as far as choosing a pic where the Rock is clearly favored with Ndamukong Suh to make the Rock 6’3”. Then when the better pic of Suh and Rock was posted it became that we could not see ground etc when you actually can and not to mention they are at the same event that the pictures he posted came from as they have the exact same clothes and footwear on.
As far as what you said you meant Dwayne Bowe was 4.5” taller. But with Bowe it’s likely he’s a hair under 6’2” at a low like 6’1.75 or 7/8”. Merriman likely would edge Bowe. But I do see where you’re coming from
Canson said on 16/Mar/18
@Viper: that’s rare you don’t lose much height. Most usually lose 3/4” in our height range. I lose 3/4” myself up to 2cm. As for Merriman and LT after doing more research and looking at the pic it’s abojt 4.5” imho maybe max 5”. And that’s no guarantee LT is still a solid 5’10 afternoon. I can see what Andrea is saying a solid 4” may be a bit off but not by that much. Meaning Merriman technically still looks 6’2” range imho. 6’3” flat would be the most I could conceivably argue in that pic And that’s pushing it
@Viper: that’s rare you don’t lose much height. Most usually lose 3/4” in our height range. I lose 3/4” myself up to 2cm. As for Merriman and LT after doing more research and looking at the pic it’s abojt 4.5” imho maybe max 5”. And that’s no guarantee LT is still a solid 5’10 afternoon. I can see what Andrea is saying a solid 4” may be a bit off but not by that much. Meaning Merriman technically still looks 6’2” range imho. 6’3” flat would be the most I could conceivably argue in that pic And that’s pushing it
viper said on 16/Mar/18
Canson check this out. 10 years ago on Rocks page people thought LT was 4.5 inches shorter than Merriman Click Here
Also 6-2 Dwayne Bowe looked 4.5 inches shorter than LT
Canson check this out. 10 years ago on Rocks page people thought LT was 4.5 inches shorter than Merriman Click Here
Also 6-2 Dwayne Bowe looked 4.5 inches shorter than LT
viper said on 15/Mar/18
Lol, please be more obnoxious Andrea.
Canson, can't you easily see 6-3.5 Berman looks much taller.
And sorry Andrea, 6-1-6-2 Tito Ortiz looks about the same as Merriman compared to the interviwer
Lol, please be more obnoxious Andrea.
Canson, can't you easily see 6-3.5 Berman looks much taller.
And sorry Andrea, 6-1-6-2 Tito Ortiz looks about the same as Merriman compared to the interviwer
viper said on 15/Mar/18
I wake between 6-3.25-6-3.5 usually still a flat 6-3 at night. Rare occasions I might dip just a hair under 6-3.
I wake between 6-3.25-6-3.5 usually still a flat 6-3 at night. Rare occasions I might dip just a hair under 6-3.
Andrea said on 15/Mar/18
To be fair, Ladainian isn't standing at his tallest either there...
To be fair, Ladainian isn't standing at his tallest either there...
Andrea said on 15/Mar/18
LOL, viper, once again, great quality "evidence"!
What is that clip with that interviewer supposed to prove? The interviewer has a huge camera advantage over Shawne there, so it's impossible to tell any height difference, yet Shawne, according to you, looks no more than 6'1, LOL. You're such a big joke, LMFAO!
And again, you post another picture where Shawne looks noticeably taller than 6'2. In fact, Shawne doesn't look any shorter than how Chris Berman does next to that guy!
LOL, viper, once again, great quality "evidence"!
What is that clip with that interviewer supposed to prove? The interviewer has a huge camera advantage over Shawne there, so it's impossible to tell any height difference, yet Shawne, according to you, looks no more than 6'1, LOL. You're such a big joke, LMFAO!
And again, you post another picture where Shawne looks noticeably taller than 6'2. In fact, Shawne doesn't look any shorter than how Chris Berman does next to that guy!
Canson said on 15/Mar/18
@Viper: are you just a solid 6’3” or under or are you 6’3” and change? I’m 6’4 and change myself (I usually just say 6’4 now a days since coming on here and seeing as how I come down to 6’4.25 a lot) but 6’4.5 previously. I’m usually 1-2mm over 6’5 when I wake up then 6’4 1/4-1/3 evening at 25 or .3.
@Viper: are you just a solid 6’3” or under or are you 6’3” and change? I’m 6’4 and change myself (I usually just say 6’4 now a days since coming on here and seeing as how I come down to 6’4.25 a lot) but 6’4.5 previously. I’m usually 1-2mm over 6’5 when I wake up then 6’4 1/4-1/3 evening at 25 or .3.
Canson said on 15/Mar/18
@Viper: Manley looks 6’3” to be honest. As for Bryant maybe not quite 6’3.5 but 6’3.25 or 6’3 3/8 probably an inch shorter than me. Combines usually run about half inch higher (3/8”-1/2” than normal based on the subset I had previously where Nick Mangold measured 6’3 5/8 vs 6’3 1/4 Vincent Jackson 6’4 3/4 vs 6’4 3/8 Deangelo Williams 5’9 vs 5’8 1/2. And Campbell agree with you same with Dawson could be 6’3.5
@Viper: Manley looks 6’3” to be honest. As for Bryant maybe not quite 6’3.5 but 6’3.25 or 6’3 3/8 probably an inch shorter than me. Combines usually run about half inch higher (3/8”-1/2” than normal based on the subset I had previously where Nick Mangold measured 6’3 5/8 vs 6’3 1/4 Vincent Jackson 6’4 3/4 vs 6’4 3/8 Deangelo Williams 5’9 vs 5’8 1/2. And Campbell agree with you same with Dawson could be 6’3.5
Canson said on 15/Mar/18
@Andrea: have to disagree about Vernon only because he doesn’t appear to be standing straight with LT. I could agree 6’2.5 may be low with him (Shawne) but 6’3” flat I can see in my opinion
@Viper: very interesting here regarding Baker Mayfield. His combine was higher than his Senior Bowl due to his late arrival and “private” measurement. One 6’0 3/8 vs 6’0 5/8
Click Here
@Andrea: have to disagree about Vernon only because he doesn’t appear to be standing straight with LT. I could agree 6’2.5 may be low with him (Shawne) but 6’3” flat I can see in my opinion
@Viper: very interesting here regarding Baker Mayfield. His combine was higher than his Senior Bowl due to his late arrival and “private” measurement. One 6’0 3/8 vs 6’0 5/8
Click Here
Andrea said on 14/Mar/18
Canson, I'm not sure about Ladainian, but if he's around 5'10, I wouldn't go with less than 6'3.5 for Shawne there... Again, if he really looked 6'3 MAX next to Ladainian like you say, how do you explain him looking, to be as conservative as possible, AT LEAST half an inch taller than Nick Hardwick and NO MORE than one inch shorter than Kassim Osgood in the SAME PICTURE??? Bear in mind that the first was measured at 6'3.5 and the second at 6'4 7/8. Although you can certainly argue that both those measurements are early measurements and that both of them are shorter than those marks, it is quite hard to believe that they would drop to 6'2.5 MAX and about 6'4 flat at their low respectively (which would be the case if Shawne really was no more than 6'3 there like you say)...
Speaking of Ladainian, here he is with Vernon: Click Here Now, Ladainian may have some camera (and maybe footwear) advantage over Vernon, but I would say that Vernon looks a lot closer to 6'2 than how Shawne does next to the him...
Canson, I'm not sure about Ladainian, but if he's around 5'10, I wouldn't go with less than 6'3.5 for Shawne there... Again, if he really looked 6'3 MAX next to Ladainian like you say, how do you explain him looking, to be as conservative as possible, AT LEAST half an inch taller than Nick Hardwick and NO MORE than one inch shorter than Kassim Osgood in the SAME PICTURE??? Bear in mind that the first was measured at 6'3.5 and the second at 6'4 7/8. Although you can certainly argue that both those measurements are early measurements and that both of them are shorter than those marks, it is quite hard to believe that they would drop to 6'2.5 MAX and about 6'4 flat at their low respectively (which would be the case if Shawne really was no more than 6'3 there like you say)...
Speaking of Ladainian, here he is with Vernon: Click Here Now, Ladainian may have some camera (and maybe footwear) advantage over Vernon, but I would say that Vernon looks a lot closer to 6'2 than how Shawne does next to the him...
Canson said on 14/Mar/18
@Viper: I honestly don’t believe he’s that tall either. With the measurements etc. they don’t add up to even a weak 6’4. Only thing is that Rob will not adjust him downward without one of the following:
1. Seeing him in person himself. Even then it may not be all the way down to 6’2” flat maybe something more like a Michael Phelps listing if he’s not sure. Rob plays it safe. He may only be 6’2 or 6’2 1/8 Rob may not be 100% certain and drop him to 6’2.5 or maybe 190cm even at that if he isn’t. That’s sort of what he did with Rick Fox he didn’t drop him even after him next to Kobe being barely taller than him (not enough for an inch or 3cm). Fox is still 6’6” today here even after saying 6’5 while actin 6’7” while ballin. He’s definitely not full 6’6” and maybe never was. May have always been 6’5.5 as KROC said once he was 196-197 when he met him which is how he actually looks. He may be even less today. Rob also mentioned that it’s due to the way Fox is built and doesn’t look as tall walking as Anthony Joshua or other 197 cm guys he sees. AJ has proportions of a guy who is 6’5-6’6 tho.
2. A very reliable clear cut picture that shows him as only looking a certain height. Honestly he would almost have to look 6’2 flat against someone Rob has accurately listed here or a poster that has proven their own measurement otherwise Rob likely would play it safe and list him around a touch above it he has doubts. If you met him again and had a picture with him and Rob could tell your height clearly he would likely agree to an extent. I would likely post the pic if I did but want my privacy as well and don’t want my pic on this site so would have to somehow protect it.
3. Merriman comes out himself and says he is actually only 6’2 then there’s a chance. But even then Rob may not see enough for a flat 6’2” he may go to 6’2.5 or 6’2.25 because there are other occurrences of him looking taller at times. But can agree with you that is also the case with Charles Barkley. Look at the pic with Magic and Barkley with their wives recently. Magic looks much taller physically and Magic also commented on Barkley how did he do that at his size? Barkley was in reality never taller than 6’4 1/2 at his lowest. Most who meet him say 6’4” but maybe that’s what he’s closer to today. And Tyler Mane did that (claimed 6’7”) and after it being pointed out to Rob (along with Ali Baba’s pictures and him being reliably what he claims) was when Rob downgraded him. Even where he is he could be less than 6’7” by a hair next to Ali Baba esp given Ali had been awake longer but it’s much better than where he was listed. Rob even stated that in his peak he likely was closer to 6’8 hence why he listed him 6’8 then reduced to 6’7.5 before arriving at 6’7”.
Any of the above could happen with Merriman but likely until it does, Rob would likely not drop him below maybe 6’3.5 which I can also say is an improvement over the current listing but in terms of the numbers they wouldn’t add up very well from 6’4 3/8 Combine. So even that may be unlikely in the absence of a picture and enough overwhelming evidence to Rob to convince him. But 6’2” is even less likely to happen as Rob very rarely will (in his mind) underlist someone nor will he downgrade 2 full inches without a very high standard (burden of proof). Most celebs here are thought to be overlisted by half inch but there are many that are 1-2” over there actual barefoot height.
I agree that Merriman likely is not that tall even though he can look all over the place.
@Viper: I honestly don’t believe he’s that tall either. With the measurements etc. they don’t add up to even a weak 6’4. Only thing is that Rob will not adjust him downward without one of the following:
1. Seeing him in person himself. Even then it may not be all the way down to 6’2” flat maybe something more like a Michael Phelps listing if he’s not sure. Rob plays it safe. He may only be 6’2 or 6’2 1/8 Rob may not be 100% certain and drop him to 6’2.5 or maybe 190cm even at that if he isn’t. That’s sort of what he did with Rick Fox he didn’t drop him even after him next to Kobe being barely taller than him (not enough for an inch or 3cm). Fox is still 6’6” today here even after saying 6’5 while actin 6’7” while ballin. He’s definitely not full 6’6” and maybe never was. May have always been 6’5.5 as KROC said once he was 196-197 when he met him which is how he actually looks. He may be even less today. Rob also mentioned that it’s due to the way Fox is built and doesn’t look as tall walking as Anthony Joshua or other 197 cm guys he sees. AJ has proportions of a guy who is 6’5-6’6 tho.
2. A very reliable clear cut picture that shows him as only looking a certain height. Honestly he would almost have to look 6’2 flat against someone Rob has accurately listed here or a poster that has proven their own measurement otherwise Rob likely would play it safe and list him around a touch above it he has doubts. If you met him again and had a picture with him and Rob could tell your height clearly he would likely agree to an extent. I would likely post the pic if I did but want my privacy as well and don’t want my pic on this site so would have to somehow protect it.
3. Merriman comes out himself and says he is actually only 6’2 then there’s a chance. But even then Rob may not see enough for a flat 6’2” he may go to 6’2.5 or 6’2.25 because there are other occurrences of him looking taller at times. But can agree with you that is also the case with Charles Barkley. Look at the pic with Magic and Barkley with their wives recently. Magic looks much taller physically and Magic also commented on Barkley how did he do that at his size? Barkley was in reality never taller than 6’4 1/2 at his lowest. Most who meet him say 6’4” but maybe that’s what he’s closer to today. And Tyler Mane did that (claimed 6’7”) and after it being pointed out to Rob (along with Ali Baba’s pictures and him being reliably what he claims) was when Rob downgraded him. Even where he is he could be less than 6’7” by a hair next to Ali Baba esp given Ali had been awake longer but it’s much better than where he was listed. Rob even stated that in his peak he likely was closer to 6’8 hence why he listed him 6’8 then reduced to 6’7.5 before arriving at 6’7”.
Any of the above could happen with Merriman but likely until it does, Rob would likely not drop him below maybe 6’3.5 which I can also say is an improvement over the current listing but in terms of the numbers they wouldn’t add up very well from 6’4 3/8 Combine. So even that may be unlikely in the absence of a picture and enough overwhelming evidence to Rob to convince him. But 6’2” is even less likely to happen as Rob very rarely will (in his mind) underlist someone nor will he downgrade 2 full inches without a very high standard (burden of proof). Most celebs here are thought to be overlisted by half inch but there are many that are 1-2” over there actual barefoot height.
I agree that Merriman likely is not that tall even though he can look all over the place.
Vegas said on 14/Mar/18
viper said on 11/Mar/18
When I saw Merriman from a few feet away in 2006 I honestly could have pegged him 6-1 range. He did not look anything over 6-2.
I'm a pretty good judge of height since I pegged Ricky Jackson at 6-1, what he was listed at during the draft.
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You said that height challenger #5 was nowhere near 6'2...
viper said on 11/Mar/18
When I saw Merriman from a few feet away in 2006 I honestly could have pegged him 6-1 range. He did not look anything over 6-2.
I'm a pretty good judge of height since I pegged Ricky Jackson at 6-1, what he was listed at during the draft.
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You said that height challenger #5 was nowhere near 6'2...
viper said on 14/Mar/18
Chuey with 6-4 Tyler Perry. Click Here
Compare the insane difference with a real 6-4 in Perry between Merriman.
Chuey with 6-4 Tyler Perry. Click Here
Compare the insane difference with a real 6-4 in Perry between Merriman.
viper said on 14/Mar/18
Chuey Martinez looks 6-3 with 6-3.5 Joel McHale. Click Here
Merriman looks just 6-1 with Chuey.
Click Here
Chuey Martinez looks 6-3 with 6-3.5 Joel McHale. Click Here
Merriman looks just 6-1 with Chuey.
Click Here
viper said on 13/Mar/18
Yeah, I'd have to say Lin Dawson and Dexter Manley are the tallest looking 6-3 listed guys out there. Dexter can look gigantic in pics, just physically taller looking than 6-3 Vernon Davis. Lin Dawson looks physically the same as Dexter in the few pics he's in.
I've met Dawson twice so my eyes didn't deceive me twice. If he's just a flat 6-3 he's the tallest looking flat 6-3 guy. Physically looks taller than me and felt taller.
Yeah, I'd have to say Lin Dawson and Dexter Manley are the tallest looking 6-3 listed guys out there. Dexter can look gigantic in pics, just physically taller looking than 6-3 Vernon Davis. Lin Dawson looks physically the same as Dexter in the few pics he's in.
I've met Dawson twice so my eyes didn't deceive me twice. If he's just a flat 6-3 he's the tallest looking flat 6-3 guy. Physically looks taller than me and felt taller.
viper said on 13/Mar/18
Martavis I bet is 6-3 1/2.
I think Dexter Manley looks more 6-3 1/2 a lot of the time similar to Lin Dawson
There was a pic of Dexter looking slightly taller than Jason Campbell. Campbell measured 6-4.6 at the combine and 6-4.1 at the senior bowl
Martavis I bet is 6-3 1/2.
I think Dexter Manley looks more 6-3 1/2 a lot of the time similar to Lin Dawson
There was a pic of Dexter looking slightly taller than Jason Campbell. Campbell measured 6-4.6 at the combine and 6-4.1 at the senior bowl
Canson said on 13/Mar/18
@Viper: I don’t disagree that he’s 6’2” range. But his height appears all over the place like Andrea said
@Andrea: Tomlinson could be 5’9.75 or 7/8 if that was morning but not sure if it is. so even at “about 5 inches” that puts Merriman (possibly) right where Viper showed his Senior Bowl at 6’2.5. Since 5” is not much different from 4.75 as well. Or could be something more of a weak 6’3 like 6’2.5-.75 up to (potentially) 6’3 perhaps. I don’t see many combine measurements lately past 6am or 7 but not sure with LT. I would say even a best case maybe a solid 5’10 if he was 5’10.25 which prob puts Merriman in the neighborhood of 190 or 191
@Viper: I don’t disagree that he’s 6’2” range. But his height appears all over the place like Andrea said
@Andrea: Tomlinson could be 5’9.75 or 7/8 if that was morning but not sure if it is. so even at “about 5 inches” that puts Merriman (possibly) right where Viper showed his Senior Bowl at 6’2.5. Since 5” is not much different from 4.75 as well. Or could be something more of a weak 6’3 like 6’2.5-.75 up to (potentially) 6’3 perhaps. I don’t see many combine measurements lately past 6am or 7 but not sure with LT. I would say even a best case maybe a solid 5’10 if he was 5’10.25 which prob puts Merriman in the neighborhood of 190 or 191
viper said on 13/Mar/18
Merriman looks 6-1 more than the "6-2 1/2 listed Dwayne Johnson"
Merriman looks 6-1 more than the "6-2 1/2 listed Dwayne Johnson"
viper said on 13/Mar/18
The 6-4 listing here and the 6-4.3 is what Trump would say, FAKE NEWS
The 6-4 listing here and the 6-4.3 is what Trump would say, FAKE NEWS
Andrea said on 13/Mar/18
I agree, Canson. In fact, that girl saying that Shawne was at least a foot taller than her proves nothing to me. Many people have no idea of how various heights appear in person (especially girls). Plus, we don't even know if she really is as tall as her 5'4 claim or not. The only reason why I posted it was to expose viper's hypocrisy in posting only those estimates (which many times are not even estimates, but just the result of his mental disorder) that are convenient for his 6'2 story. I guarantee you that if she agreed with what viper told her (he was "measured" at 6'2), he would been the first to post it on here!
It's also funny how he even posts photos where, if anything, Shawne looks noticeably taller than 6'2, yet, according to him, he's no more than 6'2 and "it's a shut case", LOL! And I'm talking about this photo Click Here and this photo Click Here . In fact, despite having some camera disadvantage in both of them (which is a classic for viper's photos), you can tell that he's taller than Spencer Johnson and no shorter than Boomer Esiason.
I agree, Canson. In fact, that girl saying that Shawne was at least a foot taller than her proves nothing to me. Many people have no idea of how various heights appear in person (especially girls). Plus, we don't even know if she really is as tall as her 5'4 claim or not. The only reason why I posted it was to expose viper's hypocrisy in posting only those estimates (which many times are not even estimates, but just the result of his mental disorder) that are convenient for his 6'2 story. I guarantee you that if she agreed with what viper told her (he was "measured" at 6'2), he would been the first to post it on here!
It's also funny how he even posts photos where, if anything, Shawne looks noticeably taller than 6'2, yet, according to him, he's no more than 6'2 and "it's a shut case", LOL! And I'm talking about this photo Click Here and this photo Click Here . In fact, despite having some camera disadvantage in both of them (which is a classic for viper's photos), you can tell that he's taller than Spencer Johnson and no shorter than Boomer Esiason.
Canson said on 13/Mar/18
@Viper: I can agree with much of your logic to be honest tho when it comes to say combines or senior bowls because something you said really stood out on Rock’s page when you mentioned Aaron Rodgers and Dez and Michael Sam. None of those guys is 6’2” barefoot. Brett Favre clearly edged Rodgers by close to if not a full 1”.
@Viper: I can agree with much of your logic to be honest tho when it comes to say combines or senior bowls because something you said really stood out on Rock’s page when you mentioned Aaron Rodgers and Dez and Michael Sam. None of those guys is 6’2” barefoot. Brett Favre clearly edged Rodgers by close to if not a full 1”.
Canson said on 13/Mar/18
@Viper: ahh Birthday Bash! WPGC brings back some good times!!!
@Viper: ahh Birthday Bash! WPGC brings back some good times!!!
Canson said on 13/Mar/18
@Viper and Andrea: “a foot taller” tho can’t really be taken seriously but neither can Shawne appearing shorter than “he’s supposed to”. Sounds to me like she can’t judge height and expected him to be 6’7” or something. I have a friend who is female and 5’5” that told me I looked a foot taller than my 5’7 3/4 wife. When really it’s 8.5” or thereabouts. She swore I was 6’7” until I told her 6’4 1/2 (I’m actually 6’4.25 at a low). Her boyfriend who is friends with us is an honest guy. He said he’s 6’0 and change and she thought he was 6’3 and I told her (when he wasn’t there once that there’s no way). I’m close to 4” taller than him. The topic then came up in front of us and he said himself he’s 6’ and change. He subsequently guessed me at 6’3-6’4 maybe because I was on my feet and could’ve gotten down to flat 6’4” like I have at an extreme low and was wearing a flat pair of shoes at the time which would’ve made me appear 6’3.5 prob to someone wearing 1” footwear. My point is It’s just some people can’t judge height. And this lady saying Shawne is 1’ taller than her could easily be a mistake as could him looking short at his height because even if he’s really 6’4” that is not going to look short to someone her size nor will 6’2 if he’s really that as well. She probably expected Merriman to be a “Giant” lol
@Viper and Andrea: “a foot taller” tho can’t really be taken seriously but neither can Shawne appearing shorter than “he’s supposed to”. Sounds to me like she can’t judge height and expected him to be 6’7” or something. I have a friend who is female and 5’5” that told me I looked a foot taller than my 5’7 3/4 wife. When really it’s 8.5” or thereabouts. She swore I was 6’7” until I told her 6’4 1/2 (I’m actually 6’4.25 at a low). Her boyfriend who is friends with us is an honest guy. He said he’s 6’0 and change and she thought he was 6’3 and I told her (when he wasn’t there once that there’s no way). I’m close to 4” taller than him. The topic then came up in front of us and he said himself he’s 6’ and change. He subsequently guessed me at 6’3-6’4 maybe because I was on my feet and could’ve gotten down to flat 6’4” like I have at an extreme low and was wearing a flat pair of shoes at the time which would’ve made me appear 6’3.5 prob to someone wearing 1” footwear. My point is It’s just some people can’t judge height. And this lady saying Shawne is 1’ taller than her could easily be a mistake as could him looking short at his height because even if he’s really 6’4” that is not going to look short to someone her size nor will 6’2 if he’s really that as well. She probably expected Merriman to be a “Giant” lol
viper said on 13/Mar/18
That dude is well under 6-0
That dude is well under 6-0
viper said on 13/Mar/18
Canson it's a shut case. It's obvious he looks around 6-2 in those interviews
Canson it's a shut case. It's obvious he looks around 6-2 in those interviews
Andrea said on 13/Mar/18
LOL, poor little viper, you don't even deserve an answer...
Speaking of that guy, Canson, he can certainly look noticeably shorter than his 6'1 claim in some pictures... I agree that the ground doesn't seem uneven in that picture with Marcus Allen, but again why should he say that he looked about as tall as him (when he seems noticeably taller than him)? Hmm... With Marcedes Lewis he doesn't look much under his claim actually, if Marcedes is about 6'6. Maybe more 6'-6'1 rather than a "full 6'1", but I wouldn't have guessed him under that in that picture...
As for James Brown, to be fair, from the few pictures I have seen of him, I'm not sure I would have guessed him as tall as 6'5 (or near it), but probably not over 6'4. In fact, it's not a surprise that he looks so similar to Shawne... As for the other argument, I posted a picture where you can clearly see that Ladainian objectively (I'm sorry, but this can't be an opinion) doesn't even reach Shawne's eyelevel (so at worst it's a 5 good inches difference, although most likely a bit more than that), yet you still say that the same Ladainian may just be a bit below Shawne's eyebrows and that that the difference isn't even 5 inches. Whatever...
LOL, poor little viper, you don't even deserve an answer...
Speaking of that guy, Canson, he can certainly look noticeably shorter than his 6'1 claim in some pictures... I agree that the ground doesn't seem uneven in that picture with Marcus Allen, but again why should he say that he looked about as tall as him (when he seems noticeably taller than him)? Hmm... With Marcedes Lewis he doesn't look much under his claim actually, if Marcedes is about 6'6. Maybe more 6'-6'1 rather than a "full 6'1", but I wouldn't have guessed him under that in that picture...
As for James Brown, to be fair, from the few pictures I have seen of him, I'm not sure I would have guessed him as tall as 6'5 (or near it), but probably not over 6'4. In fact, it's not a surprise that he looks so similar to Shawne... As for the other argument, I posted a picture where you can clearly see that Ladainian objectively (I'm sorry, but this can't be an opinion) doesn't even reach Shawne's eyelevel (so at worst it's a 5 good inches difference, although most likely a bit more than that), yet you still say that the same Ladainian may just be a bit below Shawne's eyebrows and that that the difference isn't even 5 inches. Whatever...
Canson said on 12/Mar/18
@Viper: prob not 6’1”.
@Viper: prob not 6’1”.
Canson said on 12/Mar/18
@Viper: I don’t recall calling Andrea a troll. I actually don’t think that he is a troll either. (Andrea is a he btw). I thought was female at first too until Rob mentioned it. I don’t recall Christian calling him one either but maybe (doesn’t seem like Christian to do that). Not sure. Haven’t heard from Christian in a couple weeks tho.
@Viper: I don’t recall calling Andrea a troll. I actually don’t think that he is a troll either. (Andrea is a he btw). I thought was female at first too until Rob mentioned it. I don’t recall Christian calling him one either but maybe (doesn’t seem like Christian to do that). Not sure. Haven’t heard from Christian in a couple weeks tho.
Canson said on 11/Mar/18
@Viper and Andrea: this may be a key. Marcedes Lewis was 6’5 7/8 Senior Bowl (6’6 3/8 combine). How much would you say the difference is with This Joe McClain fellow?
Click Here
@Viper and Andrea: this may be a key. Marcedes Lewis was 6’5 7/8 Senior Bowl (6’6 3/8 combine). How much would you say the difference is with This Joe McClain fellow?
Click Here
Canson said on 11/Mar/18
@Viper: is that actually the same guy that Andrea posted the pic from? But the one thing I’ll say is that Merriman wasn’t standing straight with him so it’s hard to say if Marcus is actually any taller next to him but If that really is him then he is not 6’1” with either of those guys.
Martavis is 6’3” and change if he measured 6’3.75 at the combine. Prob 6’3.25 or 3/8.
@Andrea: not so sure about that. The ground looks the same on that pic with Marcus Allen and Although he said Allen is his height Marcus is clearly taller than him.
@Viper: is that actually the same guy that Andrea posted the pic from? But the one thing I’ll say is that Merriman wasn’t standing straight with him so it’s hard to say if Marcus is actually any taller next to him but If that really is him then he is not 6’1” with either of those guys.
Martavis is 6’3” and change if he measured 6’3.75 at the combine. Prob 6’3.25 or 3/8.
@Andrea: not so sure about that. The ground looks the same on that pic with Marcus Allen and Although he said Allen is his height Marcus is clearly taller than him.
Canson said on 11/Mar/18
@Andrea: James was definitely close to 6’5”. I saw him for a moment when I did and he didn’t have great posture but when he stood up straight I felt he was taller than me. Maybe I misjudged but I could say 195cm possibly or if 6’4.5 means he had a footwear advantage and I didn’t notice it. I’m 6’4.25 at a low so 1/4” I wouldn’t notice probably. Now he is 66 now and maybe he’s shrunken and 6’4.5 now but looking at him with Howie Long who I believe is 6’4 and always has been about that he is still taller. One thing I will say is Bobby3342 said his 6’6” dad met Long back in the 80s and said he was 6’4” ish on Long’s page. This was when Rob still had his peak at 6’5” and current 6’4.5. That I never believed and knew he was always about 6’4”. As for LT and Merriman he may be a bit below the top of the eyebrows but not a 5-5.5” difference in my opinion. That may be an instance where he doesn’t look 6’2-6’2.5 or 6’3.5-6’4 but instead a flat 6’3”. I’ve seen pics where he can look 6’3” surprisingly but what you said has Merit because he never measured that instead the other two. I still find the measurement a bit odd tho if he was listed 6’3 at MD (which could be shoes easily as Cam was listed 6’6” at Auburn) but then 6’2.5 and a 6’2” then a 6’4 3/8. The 6’4 3/8 tho should still be 6’3 7/8 or 6’4” if that’s a morning measurement. That’s what makes his height so difficult to pin down because he can look anywhere from 6’2 to a full 6’4” in some pics and it’s his posture that is admittedly not always the best and he is not built like a typical 6’4” guy if he were to really be that tall
@Andrea: James was definitely close to 6’5”. I saw him for a moment when I did and he didn’t have great posture but when he stood up straight I felt he was taller than me. Maybe I misjudged but I could say 195cm possibly or if 6’4.5 means he had a footwear advantage and I didn’t notice it. I’m 6’4.25 at a low so 1/4” I wouldn’t notice probably. Now he is 66 now and maybe he’s shrunken and 6’4.5 now but looking at him with Howie Long who I believe is 6’4 and always has been about that he is still taller. One thing I will say is Bobby3342 said his 6’6” dad met Long back in the 80s and said he was 6’4” ish on Long’s page. This was when Rob still had his peak at 6’5” and current 6’4.5. That I never believed and knew he was always about 6’4”. As for LT and Merriman he may be a bit below the top of the eyebrows but not a 5-5.5” difference in my opinion. That may be an instance where he doesn’t look 6’2-6’2.5 or 6’3.5-6’4 but instead a flat 6’3”. I’ve seen pics where he can look 6’3” surprisingly but what you said has Merit because he never measured that instead the other two. I still find the measurement a bit odd tho if he was listed 6’3 at MD (which could be shoes easily as Cam was listed 6’6” at Auburn) but then 6’2.5 and a 6’2” then a 6’4 3/8. The 6’4 3/8 tho should still be 6’3 7/8 or 6’4” if that’s a morning measurement. That’s what makes his height so difficult to pin down because he can look anywhere from 6’2 to a full 6’4” in some pics and it’s his posture that is admittedly not always the best and he is not built like a typical 6’4” guy if he were to really be that tall
viper said on 11/Mar/18
Rudy Gay played a basketball game with Merriman at Big Tiggers celebrity basketball game in Washington DC
Rudy Gay played a basketball game with Merriman at Big Tiggers celebrity basketball game in Washington DC
Andrea said on 11/Mar/18
Just like you didn't mention this girl who met Shawne and said that he looked at least a foot taller than her (she claims 5'4), despite your try to feed her with your 6'2 "estimate": Click Here 😅
Just like you didn't mention this girl who met Shawne and said that he looked at least a foot taller than her (she claims 5'4), despite your try to feed her with your 6'2 "estimate": Click Here 😅
viper said on 11/Mar/18
When I saw Merriman from a few feet away in 2006 I honestly could have pegged him 6-1 range. He did not look anything over 6-2.
I'm a pretty good judge of height since I pegged Ricky Jackson at 6-1, what he was listed at during the draft.
Lin Dawson looked 6-3.5 minimum to me when he's listed at 6-3
When I saw Merriman from a few feet away in 2006 I honestly could have pegged him 6-1 range. He did not look anything over 6-2.
I'm a pretty good judge of height since I pegged Ricky Jackson at 6-1, what he was listed at during the draft.
Lin Dawson looked 6-3.5 minimum to me when he's listed at 6-3
viper said on 11/Mar/18
If that guy was 6-1, which he laughably isn't, looks 5-10ish, he would still be wrong about Allen since he's taller than 6-1. He can't tell height which is obvious
If that guy was 6-1, which he laughably isn't, looks 5-10ish, he would still be wrong about Allen since he's taller than 6-1. He can't tell height which is obvious
viper said on 11/Mar/18
With 6-1 Darius Philon. Click Here
LMAO this dude is 5-10-11. Wouldn't surprise me If Andrea PM's this guy. We know she's a nutcase
With 6-1 Darius Philon. Click Here
LMAO this dude is 5-10-11. Wouldn't surprise me If Andrea PM's this guy. We know she's a nutcase
viper said on 11/Mar/18
Sure Andrea, we believe you. Canson and Christian have called you a troll.
He looks the same height as 5-10 Ladanian Tomlinson and 5-10 Reggie Bush.
Allen has 4 inches on him
Sure Andrea, we believe you. Canson and Christian have called you a troll.
He looks the same height as 5-10 Ladanian Tomlinson and 5-10 Reggie Bush.
Allen has 4 inches on him
Andrea said on 11/Mar/18
Well, Canson, you can certainly tell that they are pretty close in height (James Brown and Shawne). If James really is close to 6'5 (which I'm not sure about), Shawne can even look closer to 6'5 than 6'4 there!
And again, I don't see how you can say that Ladainian is up to Shawne's eyebrows, when he clearly is BELOW HIS EYELEVEL: Click Here
And Viper, you're a very funny guy (but we already knew that). First you post pictures of Tim Tebow and Shawne Merriman (on Tebow's page) to prove that Tim can't be over 6'-6'1 because Shawne, in your opinion, is 6'2 (which could be even believable in its madness, given that Merriman generally seems to be at least 1.5 inch taller than him), and then you cherry pick the only picture of them where they can look quite similar for some reason and say that Tim is now 6'2 and that Shawne is the same, LMFAO. As for that guy from Twitter, that picture with Marcus Allen was taken outside, so there's always a chance for some ground difference. In fact, the same guy thought that Marcus was as tall as him, despite that picture: Click Here I don't see you mentioning it, though. I wonder why. Maybe because it's not the kind of answer you were hoping for? 😄
Well, Canson, you can certainly tell that they are pretty close in height (James Brown and Shawne). If James really is close to 6'5 (which I'm not sure about), Shawne can even look closer to 6'5 than 6'4 there!
And again, I don't see how you can say that Ladainian is up to Shawne's eyebrows, when he clearly is BELOW HIS EYELEVEL: Click Here
And Viper, you're a very funny guy (but we already knew that). First you post pictures of Tim Tebow and Shawne Merriman (on Tebow's page) to prove that Tim can't be over 6'-6'1 because Shawne, in your opinion, is 6'2 (which could be even believable in its madness, given that Merriman generally seems to be at least 1.5 inch taller than him), and then you cherry pick the only picture of them where they can look quite similar for some reason and say that Tim is now 6'2 and that Shawne is the same, LMFAO. As for that guy from Twitter, that picture with Marcus Allen was taken outside, so there's always a chance for some ground difference. In fact, the same guy thought that Marcus was as tall as him, despite that picture: Click Here I don't see you mentioning it, though. I wonder why. Maybe because it's not the kind of answer you were hoping for? 😄
Canson said on 10/Mar/18
@Viper: if he measured 6’4 3/8 he would be 6’3 7/8 or 6’4 as his actual height meaning at a low and like you said would be guessed at 6’5 sometimes especially in shoes
@Viper: if he measured 6’4 3/8 he would be 6’3 7/8 or 6’4 as his actual height meaning at a low and like you said would be guessed at 6’5 sometimes especially in shoes
Canson said on 10/Mar/18
@Viper: while I agree with what Andrea said based on how he has measured it would be hard to say 6’3 but in pics he actually can look 6’3. He looks that with AP imho. Maybe not a solid 6’3 but weak. I’d have an easier time giving him that then 6’4. But to be honest he appears 6’2 at times 6’3 at times and close to 6’4 at times. With Magic johnson or Charles Barkley he looks 6’2.5-3
@Viper: while I agree with what Andrea said based on how he has measured it would be hard to say 6’3 but in pics he actually can look 6’3. He looks that with AP imho. Maybe not a solid 6’3 but weak. I’d have an easier time giving him that then 6’4. But to be honest he appears 6’2 at times 6’3 at times and close to 6’4 at times. With Magic johnson or Charles Barkley he looks 6’2.5-3
Canson said on 9/Mar/18
The biggest problem with 6’3.5 in addition to not looking it at times is that a guy that measures 6’4 3/8 even an hour out of bed if that early won’t be that short at his low. He would be closer to 6’4”. The only explanation (if he really is that tall somehow) is that the measurement was an error and he’s more like 6’4 1/8 as opposed to 3/8
The biggest problem with 6’3.5 in addition to not looking it at times is that a guy that measures 6’4 3/8 even an hour out of bed if that early won’t be that short at his low. He would be closer to 6’4”. The only explanation (if he really is that tall somehow) is that the measurement was an error and he’s more like 6’4 1/8 as opposed to 3/8
Canson said on 9/Mar/18
@Andrea: with Osgood he can look more than an inch shorter. At times closer to 2”. Id say 1.5” more or less
I have to disageee as well. LT is up to his eyebrow. Maybe not above it tho.
@Andrea: with Osgood he can look more than an inch shorter. At times closer to 2”. Id say 1.5” more or less
I have to disageee as well. LT is up to his eyebrow. Maybe not above it tho.
Canson said on 9/Mar/18
@Andrea: I’ve actually met James Brown and when I did he looked what the article lists him. I figured him maybe 6’5” as he looked a pinch taller than me. Maybe not an inch but at least half. But when I’m 6’4.25-.3 the difference isn’t that much and maybe but 6’4.75 could be right. I gave him the full 6’5” tho as a possibility. As for Merriman and him I can’t tell from that picture
@Andrea: I’ve actually met James Brown and when I did he looked what the article lists him. I figured him maybe 6’5” as he looked a pinch taller than me. Maybe not an inch but at least half. But when I’m 6’4.25-.3 the difference isn’t that much and maybe but 6’4.75 could be right. I gave him the full 6’5” tho as a possibility. As for Merriman and him I can’t tell from that picture
viper said on 9/Mar/18
That guy who said he was 6-1 and that Merriman looked inches taller, well here he is with 6-1.75 Marcus Allen. Click Here
Marcus looks taller with him than Merriman does
That guy who said he was 6-1 and that Merriman looked inches taller, well here he is with 6-1.75 Marcus Allen. Click Here
Marcus looks taller with him than Merriman does
viper said on 9/Mar/18
New pic with Tebow. Click Here
Tebows flimsy footwear. Click Here
They are both 6-2
New pic with Tebow. Click Here
Tebows flimsy footwear. Click Here
They are both 6-2
viper said on 9/Mar/18
Geno does look physically taller than Shawne. I think you would agree too.
Shawne has never been guessed at 6-5. If he was really 6-4.3 you think he would a bit.
And that tweet with the person saying Merriman is not tall. I'd say it means he's nowhere near 6-4
Geno does look physically taller than Shawne. I think you would agree too.
Shawne has never been guessed at 6-5. If he was really 6-4.3 you think he would a bit.
And that tweet with the person saying Merriman is not tall. I'd say it means he's nowhere near 6-4
Canson said on 8/Mar/18
@Viper: wow! That’s like a full 2” when you take into account that measurements are done in the morning means Smith is 6’2” flat. That means the guy add 2”. But In bigger cities like NY and LA people add 2” to themselves and measure in shoes is what I see even in DC they do it. So this guy assessing him probably is counting shoes
@Viper: wow! That’s like a full 2” when you take into account that measurements are done in the morning means Smith is 6’2” flat. That means the guy add 2”. But In bigger cities like NY and LA people add 2” to themselves and measure in shoes is what I see even in DC they do it. So this guy assessing him probably is counting shoes
Andrea said on 8/Mar/18
I don't know him, but the guy on the left, James Brown, apparently claims to be 6'4.5-6'5: Click Here Click Here
I don't know him, but the guy on the left, James Brown, apparently claims to be 6'4.5-6'5: Click Here Click Here
Andrea said on 8/Mar/18
I disagree about it, Canson. As I said, Ladainian doesn't even reach Shawne's eyelevel, so if it really was a 4.5-4.75 difference like you say, that would mean that Shawne's eyelevel is no more than 4 inches, which I highly doubt, considering that the average eyelevel is around 4.5 inches and that taller people tend to have a bigger eyelevel than average. Plus, if that was really the case, it wouldn't add up with how Shawne looks next to the other two tall guys (Kassim and Nick)... In fact, Shawne looks at least, being conservative, around half an inch taller than Nick, who was measured at 6'3.5 (and no more than one inch shorter than Kassim). So even if you assume that that 6'3.5 measurement was taken very early in the morning and that he's more around 6'3 at his low, that still would put Shawne at NO LESS than 6'3.5 there!
I disagree about it, Canson. As I said, Ladainian doesn't even reach Shawne's eyelevel, so if it really was a 4.5-4.75 difference like you say, that would mean that Shawne's eyelevel is no more than 4 inches, which I highly doubt, considering that the average eyelevel is around 4.5 inches and that taller people tend to have a bigger eyelevel than average. Plus, if that was really the case, it wouldn't add up with how Shawne looks next to the other two tall guys (Kassim and Nick)... In fact, Shawne looks at least, being conservative, around half an inch taller than Nick, who was measured at 6'3.5 (and no more than one inch shorter than Kassim). So even if you assume that that 6'3.5 measurement was taken very early in the morning and that he's more around 6'3 at his low, that still would put Shawne at NO LESS than 6'3.5 there!
Sandy Cowell said on 8/Mar/18
@ Andrea - OK then, Andrea, my next estimate for Shawnie will go up a bit, by how much, I have yet to decide! 😉
I thoroughly enjoyed your reply to mine, and it was one that required a little chewing over before I made any attempt to follow it up!
Let's just say it was eloquant, passionate people like you, coupled with the warmth and enthusiasm of Rob himself, that first attracted me to this website! I only wanted to find out the height of Patricia Arquette, but I found the arguments so entertaining to read that I hung about. Then there was a mysterious Italian who wrote English like it was his Mother Tongue! Reminding me very much of everything my German Mum told me about how well English is taught in schools overseas, I just had to write to you and you gave me a lovely, kind reply, and I did wonder if, to say such beautiful and sweet things, you might be a girl, as I knew pretty well that Andrea is commonly a boy's name in Italy!
It is people like you that enrich the site, and certainly in my case, feed my interest in how people from other countries tick, which has been laid bare to me like an open book: we all think alike and isn't it absolutely wonderful then, that we can have contributions from all over the World, making Celebheights the thought-provoking, visually arresting site it is today!
Very Best Wishes Andrea!
Sandy Cowell
@ Andrea - OK then, Andrea, my next estimate for Shawnie will go up a bit, by how much, I have yet to decide! 😉
I thoroughly enjoyed your reply to mine, and it was one that required a little chewing over before I made any attempt to follow it up!
Let's just say it was eloquant, passionate people like you, coupled with the warmth and enthusiasm of Rob himself, that first attracted me to this website! I only wanted to find out the height of Patricia Arquette, but I found the arguments so entertaining to read that I hung about. Then there was a mysterious Italian who wrote English like it was his Mother Tongue! Reminding me very much of everything my German Mum told me about how well English is taught in schools overseas, I just had to write to you and you gave me a lovely, kind reply, and I did wonder if, to say such beautiful and sweet things, you might be a girl, as I knew pretty well that Andrea is commonly a boy's name in Italy!
It is people like you that enrich the site, and certainly in my case, feed my interest in how people from other countries tick, which has been laid bare to me like an open book: we all think alike and isn't it absolutely wonderful then, that we can have contributions from all over the World, making Celebheights the thought-provoking, visually arresting site it is today!
Very Best Wishes Andrea!
Sandy Cowell
Canson said on 7/Mar/18
@Andrea: looks to me to be less than 5”. Maybe it’s over 4” but more like 4.5-.75 possible. LT could dip under 5’10 as well depending on when it occurred (morning or afternoon) but if he doesn’t it isn’t by much. Maybe 3/4 or 7/8. This puts Merriman right around 6’2.5 imho if that’s the case. I actually can see him above a flat 6’2” more like 6’2-6’2.5 zone
@Andrea: looks to me to be less than 5”. Maybe it’s over 4” but more like 4.5-.75 possible. LT could dip under 5’10 as well depending on when it occurred (morning or afternoon) but if he doesn’t it isn’t by much. Maybe 3/4 or 7/8. This puts Merriman right around 6’2.5 imho if that’s the case. I actually can see him above a flat 6’2” more like 6’2-6’2.5 zone
Canson said on 7/Mar/18
@Viper: my bad on the last post. Peterson prob is 6’1” flat or 6’1 1/8” at his lowest. Merriman is at least 1” taller if not a bit more. That pic he can look 6’2.5 maybe 6’3
@Viper: my bad on the last post. Peterson prob is 6’1” flat or 6’1 1/8” at his lowest. Merriman is at least 1” taller if not a bit more. That pic he can look 6’2.5 maybe 6’3
Canson said on 7/Mar/18
@Viper: Merriman is not shorter than Peterson in that picture
@Viper: Merriman is not shorter than Peterson in that picture
viper said on 6/Mar/18
For comparison sake here is 6-2.4 measured Latavius Murray with 6-1 Peterson. Click Here
For comparison sake here is 6-2.4 measured Latavius Murray with 6-1 Peterson. Click Here
Canson said on 6/Mar/18
@Viper:
I think that’s an honest estimate from Gay. And if Gay is 6’7” or even a little under possibly it likely means Merriman looked 6’2 range at least to him
@Viper:
I think that’s an honest estimate from Gay. And if Gay is 6’7” or even a little under possibly it likely means Merriman looked 6’2 range at least to him
Andrea said on 6/Mar/18
LOL, Sandy. You're so kind... Too kind! Actually, it didn't take make me that much to submit that comment because I simply recapped what I had already said and posted before, after seeing you commenting and offering Shawne the only mark that you can safely rule out for the reasons I have outlined. That's all! 😉
Wait a minute, though... Did you just say that you will DOWNGRADE him (so I presume give him even less than your recent 6'3 vote)??? After everything I have posted? 😡😡😡
I'm just kidding, of course. As I said, I don't really care about the Average Guess (and I myself have never ever submitted a vote, in fact). Mainly because of the "Average Quality" of the posters on this site. In fact, there will always be the haters/downgraders who will vote as low as possible, the fanboys/upgraders who will vote as high as possible and those who vote without even taking a look at various celebrities, probably based only on celebrities' names and face shapes. I have even seen some people saying that they voted some celebrities 1-2 inches taller than their real guesses just to balance the Average Guess because, in their opinion, it was "too low". This speaks a lot about the reliability of a system like this! Let's just say that quality is more important than quantity to me, meaning that what certain posters (the few ones that I really appreciate and esteem) say/think is a lot more important than the Average Guess, to me.
That being said, thank you again for your sweet words and... see you soon, Sandy! 😊
LOL, Sandy. You're so kind... Too kind! Actually, it didn't take make me that much to submit that comment because I simply recapped what I had already said and posted before, after seeing you commenting and offering Shawne the only mark that you can safely rule out for the reasons I have outlined. That's all! 😉
Wait a minute, though... Did you just say that you will DOWNGRADE him (so I presume give him even less than your recent 6'3 vote)??? After everything I have posted? 😡😡😡
I'm just kidding, of course. As I said, I don't really care about the Average Guess (and I myself have never ever submitted a vote, in fact). Mainly because of the "Average Quality" of the posters on this site. In fact, there will always be the haters/downgraders who will vote as low as possible, the fanboys/upgraders who will vote as high as possible and those who vote without even taking a look at various celebrities, probably based only on celebrities' names and face shapes. I have even seen some people saying that they voted some celebrities 1-2 inches taller than their real guesses just to balance the Average Guess because, in their opinion, it was "too low". This speaks a lot about the reliability of a system like this! Let's just say that quality is more important than quantity to me, meaning that what certain posters (the few ones that I really appreciate and esteem) say/think is a lot more important than the Average Guess, to me.
That being said, thank you again for your sweet words and... see you soon, Sandy! 😊
Andrea said on 6/Mar/18
I doubt he looks only 4 inches taller than Ladainian there, considering that the same Ladainian doesn't even reach Shawne's eyelevel (which is very likely a bit over your average 4.5 one)... Something like 5.5 inches is quite possible there, but not 4 inches.
And yeah, I did say that his height can really look all over the place at times, but if I have to go with what he looks more often, 6'3.5-6'4 seems a lot more believable than 6'2-6'2.5!
I doubt he looks only 4 inches taller than Ladainian there, considering that the same Ladainian doesn't even reach Shawne's eyelevel (which is very likely a bit over your average 4.5 one)... Something like 5.5 inches is quite possible there, but not 4 inches.
And yeah, I did say that his height can really look all over the place at times, but if I have to go with what he looks more often, 6'3.5-6'4 seems a lot more believable than 6'2-6'2.5!
Sandy Cowell said on 5/Mar/18
@ Andrea - You are so funny! I will most definitely be downgrading him next time I cast my vote for him - after all the trouble you went to, that's the very least I can do!
How long did that lot take you? It's going to seem all the more amazing to me because I don't have the knowledge nor the facilities to send off photographic evidence to Rob, more's the pity, and if and when I do, my pictures will be of the sort of 'girlie' celebrity that you might find between the pages of a celebrity magazine rather than of a sportsman.
Absolutely bowled over to hear from you! Thank you so much!
Sandy 😁
@ Andrea - You are so funny! I will most definitely be downgrading him next time I cast my vote for him - after all the trouble you went to, that's the very least I can do!
How long did that lot take you? It's going to seem all the more amazing to me because I don't have the knowledge nor the facilities to send off photographic evidence to Rob, more's the pity, and if and when I do, my pictures will be of the sort of 'girlie' celebrity that you might find between the pages of a celebrity magazine rather than of a sportsman.
Absolutely bowled over to hear from you! Thank you so much!
Sandy 😁
viper said on 5/Mar/18
Canson what do you think of Rudy Gay playing ball with him and saying he's 6-2
Canson what do you think of Rudy Gay playing ball with him and saying he's 6-2
Canson said on 5/Mar/18
@Andrea: in that pic Ladanian Tomlinson also looks only 4” shorter though. LT is 5’10. Which makes him look around 6’2” at least from my perspective.
But in the pic below Merriman does in fact look closer to what you have him 6’3.5-6’4 next to the two guys to his right at least. Which just shows what you said to Sandy that his height looks “all over the place”.
Click Here
@Andrea: in that pic Ladanian Tomlinson also looks only 4” shorter though. LT is 5’10. Which makes him look around 6’2” at least from my perspective.
But in the pic below Merriman does in fact look closer to what you have him 6’3.5-6’4 next to the two guys to his right at least. Which just shows what you said to Sandy that his height looks “all over the place”.
Click Here
Andrea said on 5/Mar/18
Hey Sandy, actually, you just offered Shawne the only mark that, paradoxically, he CAN'T be... 😀 In fact, he is supposed to have been measured "both" at 6'4 3/8 and 6'2 4/8 (although the latter figure only appeared on one unofficial site, to be fair). So unless both of those measurements are erroneous, he simply can't be 6'3 because 1) if you assume that the true measurement is the 6'4 3/8 one, there's no way he can be as low as 6'3 flat, especially considering that no athlete gets measured directly out of bed and 2) if you assume that the true measurement is the 6-2.4 one, there's no way he can be as high as 6'3 (if anything, he can be shorter than that figure but certainly not taller). This means that he's either 6'2-6'2.5 or 6'3.5-6'4, but not 6'3...
To be honest, I'm still not sure about him because unlike certain other celebrities, his height can really look all over the place at times and he can really look nearer 6'2 than 6'4 in a few pictures. But again, as I have already said, I find it hard to believe that he's really as low as that, considering that he looks noticeably taller than every single athlete who was measured in 6'2 range, such as:
- 6'2 1/8 measured Larry English ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 4/8 measured Sean Taylor ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 1/8 measured Mark Sanchez ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 6/8 measured Melvin Fowler ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 1/8 measured Jon Condo ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 6/8 measured (and 6'2.25 listed) Tim Tebow: Click Here Click Here
Just like he looks comfortably taller than every single athlete who was measured in 6'3 range, such as:
- 6'3 2/8 measured Vernon Davis ( Click Here ): Click Here Click Here
- 6'3 1/8 measured Shaun Philips ( Click Here ) : Click Here
- Indirectly with 6'3 1/8 measured Damien Woody ( Click Here ), considering that they both appeared with Boris and that Shawne looks closer in height to Boris than how Damien does: Click Here Click Here
And he can look pretty close in height to 6'4 range guys such as Boris ( Click Here ), Armie Hammer ( Click Here ), Marcellus Wiley ( Click Here ) and 6'4 measured Jared Goff ( Click Here ): Click Here
And Nik, I wouldn't give that much importance to the Average Guess, especially when people like viper are around. He certainly is the kind of poster who would submit several votes under different names to alter it as he pleases... 😜
Hey Sandy, actually, you just offered Shawne the only mark that, paradoxically, he CAN'T be... 😀 In fact, he is supposed to have been measured "both" at 6'4 3/8 and 6'2 4/8 (although the latter figure only appeared on one unofficial site, to be fair). So unless both of those measurements are erroneous, he simply can't be 6'3 because 1) if you assume that the true measurement is the 6'4 3/8 one, there's no way he can be as low as 6'3 flat, especially considering that no athlete gets measured directly out of bed and 2) if you assume that the true measurement is the 6-2.4 one, there's no way he can be as high as 6'3 (if anything, he can be shorter than that figure but certainly not taller). This means that he's either 6'2-6'2.5 or 6'3.5-6'4, but not 6'3...
To be honest, I'm still not sure about him because unlike certain other celebrities, his height can really look all over the place at times and he can really look nearer 6'2 than 6'4 in a few pictures. But again, as I have already said, I find it hard to believe that he's really as low as that, considering that he looks noticeably taller than every single athlete who was measured in 6'2 range, such as:
- 6'2 1/8 measured Larry English ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 4/8 measured Sean Taylor ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 1/8 measured Mark Sanchez ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 6/8 measured Melvin Fowler ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 1/8 measured Jon Condo ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 6/8 measured (and 6'2.25 listed) Tim Tebow: Click Here Click Here
Just like he looks comfortably taller than every single athlete who was measured in 6'3 range, such as:
- 6'3 2/8 measured Vernon Davis ( Click Here ): Click Here Click Here
- 6'3 1/8 measured Shaun Philips ( Click Here ) : Click Here
- Indirectly with 6'3 1/8 measured Damien Woody ( Click Here ), considering that they both appeared with Boris and that Shawne looks closer in height to Boris than how Damien does: Click Here Click Here
And he can look pretty close in height to 6'4 range guys such as Boris ( Click Here ), Armie Hammer ( Click Here ), Marcellus Wiley ( Click Here ) and 6'4 measured Jared Goff ( Click Here ): Click Here
And Nik, I wouldn't give that much importance to the Average Guess, especially when people like viper are around. He certainly is the kind of poster who would submit several votes under different names to alter it as he pleases... 😜
Andrea said on 5/Mar/18
Yeah, Vegas, although Kassim is standing closer for most of the clip, when they are equidistant from the camera the difference between them doesn't look that much... Here's a decent photo of them I have already posted: Click Here I can see about an inch, but not much more than that and certainly not as much as 2+ inches, which is what you'd expect if Shawne really was somewhere in 6'2 range!
And Canson, to be fair, Shawne looks noticeably taller than 6'2 and actually near enough his 6'4 listing in that picture you have posted ( Click Here), considering that, height-wise, he looks right between Kassim and the guy on the right, Nick Hardwick, who was measured at 6'3 4/8 ( Click Here )...
Yeah, Vegas, although Kassim is standing closer for most of the clip, when they are equidistant from the camera the difference between them doesn't look that much... Here's a decent photo of them I have already posted: Click Here I can see about an inch, but not much more than that and certainly not as much as 2+ inches, which is what you'd expect if Shawne really was somewhere in 6'2 range!
And Canson, to be fair, Shawne looks noticeably taller than 6'2 and actually near enough his 6'4 listing in that picture you have posted ( Click Here), considering that, height-wise, he looks right between Kassim and the guy on the right, Nick Hardwick, who was measured at 6'3 4/8 ( Click Here )...
Sandy Cowell said on 4/Mar/18
@ Canson - Hello again Canson! It's been a while that we've had a chat!
I was directed on to this page by Nik, who thought I might be interested in an ongoing 'argument' about this guy's height, and when I realised you and Andrea were involved, I knew it would make for fun reading!
It'll be a few weeks before I can vote for Shawne again, and next time, I might even give him an extra quarter inch, but being very tall yourself, you will, I imagine, experience greater day-to-day height variations yourself, just like he will!
Cheers Canson! 😊👍
@ Canson - Hello again Canson! It's been a while that we've had a chat!
I was directed on to this page by Nik, who thought I might be interested in an ongoing 'argument' about this guy's height, and when I realised you and Andrea were involved, I knew it would make for fun reading!
It'll be a few weeks before I can vote for Shawne again, and next time, I might even give him an extra quarter inch, but being very tall yourself, you will, I imagine, experience greater day-to-day height variations yourself, just like he will!
Cheers Canson! 😊👍
Canson said on 4/Mar/18
@Viper: if that’s the case for Ballage it means he’s rrally only 6’1” or 6’1 1/8 barefoot as the combine is early morning. Yet in college he listed 6’3
@Viper: if that’s the case for Ballage it means he’s rrally only 6’1” or 6’1 1/8 barefoot as the combine is early morning. Yet in college he listed 6’3
Canson said on 4/Mar/18
@Viper: you found the discrepancy between the measurements for this year? I didn’t think the Senior Bowl was held in the afternoon this year. Thought it was in the morning now too.
@Viper: you found the discrepancy between the measurements for this year? I didn’t think the Senior Bowl was held in the afternoon this year. Thought it was in the morning now too.
Nik said on 4/Mar/18
@ Sandy Cowell
Yes, there are some interesting comments made on this site by Canson and Andrea, and now viper has started to give his opinions on here, I like his/her name! I remember you asking on Rob's page about Andrea's gender and a few people, the latest being Bobby, thought that I was a woman!
I knew nothing about Shawne Merriman before going on his page! In terms of his height it may be best to go with the average or near to it, I am thinking of putting my faith in yourself and Canson and going along with 6'3"!
I hope you have a good weekend and my kind regards go to Jim and your family! Thanks for that! Oh, I answered your comment on the page of The Weeknd this morning too!
@ Sandy Cowell
Yes, there are some interesting comments made on this site by Canson and Andrea, and now viper has started to give his opinions on here, I like his/her name! I remember you asking on Rob's page about Andrea's gender and a few people, the latest being Bobby, thought that I was a woman!
I knew nothing about Shawne Merriman before going on his page! In terms of his height it may be best to go with the average or near to it, I am thinking of putting my faith in yourself and Canson and going along with 6'3"!
I hope you have a good weekend and my kind regards go to Jim and your family! Thanks for that! Oh, I answered your comment on the page of The Weeknd this morning too!
Nik said on 4/Mar/18
@ Canson
Thanks for that! It is very confusing when the same person looks so much different in height to different people and at different times, why are things so complicated and confusing? I think one thing we can rule out and that is Shawne being the 6'5" that he claims, I think I am leaning towards 6'3" but I dunno!
Cheers!
@ Canson
Thanks for that! It is very confusing when the same person looks so much different in height to different people and at different times, why are things so complicated and confusing? I think one thing we can rule out and that is Shawne being the 6'5" that he claims, I think I am leaning towards 6'3" but I dunno!
Cheers!
Canson said on 4/Mar/18
@Sandy Cowell: that’s a happy medium but he can also look it. He can look (at times) 6’2 6’3 and even close to 6’4”. But his pro day was 6’2 range and combine was 6’4 range. I believe the pro day listing
@Sandy Cowell: that’s a happy medium but he can also look it. He can look (at times) 6’2 6’3 and even close to 6’4”. But his pro day was 6’2 range and combine was 6’4 range. I believe the pro day listing
Canson said on 4/Mar/18
@Viper: the interviewer may be shorter that is hard for me to guage but we still have an unknown. At times he looks shorter but doubt 2”. But How tall is the interviewer? He may not be 6’2”? Could be a false claim too on his part.
Now with Osgood, that’s clearly a difference and it isn’t that close. It’s a good 1-2”. Osgood measured 6047 meaning an afternoon measurement would put him 6’4 3/8 or 1/2. So 6’4.5 let’s say Merriman looks no taller than 6’3 with him. 6’2 range is also debatable but not 6’4”
@Viper: the interviewer may be shorter that is hard for me to guage but we still have an unknown. At times he looks shorter but doubt 2”. But How tall is the interviewer? He may not be 6’2”? Could be a false claim too on his part.
Now with Osgood, that’s clearly a difference and it isn’t that close. It’s a good 1-2”. Osgood measured 6047 meaning an afternoon measurement would put him 6’4 3/8 or 1/2. So 6’4.5 let’s say Merriman looks no taller than 6’3 with him. 6’2 range is also debatable but not 6’4”
Sandy Cowell said on 3/Mar/18
@ Nik - I quite see what you mean!
I always enjoy reading regulars Canson's and Andrea's offerings, so when there's an argument with a 'viper', thrown in, it is going to make for interesting and entertaining reading!
I have heard of Shawne Merriman, he with the rather jolly name, but I didn't have a clue as to what he did or how tall he is, or might have been if he is old - or unfortunate enough to have suffered height- loss.
I did notice that Italian Andrea was thought to be a lass! I remember writing to him towards the of beginning of my time here and asking him! His reply? "I am a guy!"
In view of my newness to the subject of Mr Shawne Merriman, I am prepared to go with the flow and offer him 6ft3!
Enjoy your weekend Nik and kind regards to your Mum and the rest of your family! 😉
@ Nik - I quite see what you mean!
I always enjoy reading regulars Canson's and Andrea's offerings, so when there's an argument with a 'viper', thrown in, it is going to make for interesting and entertaining reading!
I have heard of Shawne Merriman, he with the rather jolly name, but I didn't have a clue as to what he did or how tall he is, or might have been if he is old - or unfortunate enough to have suffered height- loss.
I did notice that Italian Andrea was thought to be a lass! I remember writing to him towards the of beginning of my time here and asking him! His reply? "I am a guy!"
In view of my newness to the subject of Mr Shawne Merriman, I am prepared to go with the flow and offer him 6ft3!
Enjoy your weekend Nik and kind regards to your Mum and the rest of your family! 😉
viper said on 3/Mar/18
Lol Vegas. Can you believe he said that Canson
Lol Vegas. Can you believe he said that Canson
viper said on 3/Mar/18
Maryland player JC Jackson measured 5-9.6 at the combine. He's listed at 6-1. Could be a faulty measurement
Maryland player JC Jackson measured 5-9.6 at the combine. He's listed at 6-1. Could be a faulty measurement
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